I hate the Reaper system in 3 and 5

[Dreamless]

It's really annoying since I want to grind in this game. It's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ when you take too long it'll appear just to give you a Game Over fast. Does Atlus love Anti grind mechanics? It's like a wanted level system against grinding!

[Seraphita]

It's because there are ways to grind that doesn't involve you staying in the same floors. If they were anti grind, they'd have kept the characters getting tired in the middle of tower.

For exp or money rich floor, you might find death appear fast. Grind few and just go.

[Endora]

There is 3 tips that can inform you if The Reaper is in the floor: (1) the sound of chains; (2) your navigator feel something wrong or terrible; or (3) one or more of the cards on shuffle start to came with a skull (3 is only for P3 and P4).

In P3, If you know the Reaper is on the floor, split up and with some luck one of your party members can find the stairs before the Reaper find you. For the unlucky days when it corners you, just use the Traestro Gem that Mitsuru gave you (you can buy more when the Antiques Shop opens).

I never tryed the Trafuri (gem or skill), so I don't know if we can run of the battle.

In P5 you can just use the fast travel for the previous floor so you can avoid to be cornered.

All of that , of course, is for the begining/mid game. There will be a point when you will be able to choose to hunt it for the drops and/or revenge.

[Narmy]

There is no point in grinding in P3 since you get less exp from enemies you are higher level than. Just do all the Velvet Room requests before the time limit and you will be the level you need to be.

[archive fashion sex god]

the reapers are easy to beat lol
theyre only somewhat difficult on hard mode
also you hear chains before the reaper appears so just go up one floor and it resets

[archive fashion sex god]

Originally posted by Narmy:

There is no point in grinding in P3 since you get less exp from enemies you are higher level than. Just do all the Velvet Room requests before the time limit and you will be the level you need to be.

you can do this or just farm for xp it takes like 20 minutes

[mutantbeth]

it is so easy to avoid the reaper.. in 3 at least. I never played 5. Why are you grinding on the same floor anyways

[mutantbeth]

Originally posted by Narmy:

There is no point in grinding in P3 since you get less exp from enemies you are higher level than. Just do all the Velvet Room requests before the time limit and you will be the level you need to be.

not true. Im grinding for personas to boost social links

[Endora]

Originally posted by mutantbeth:

Originally posted by Narmy:

There is no point in grinding in P3 since you get less exp from enemies you are higher level than. Just do all the Velvet Room requests before the time limit and you will be the level you need to be.

not true. Im grinding for personas to boost social links

I understand, at least in the begining I had to catch dozens of Pixies, Angels and Apsaras to fuse the other arcanas needed. And yes, the Reaper came because I was too much time at the same block. It gets better when you unlock new blocks on Tartarus.

[Aka must die]

Atlus made so many mistakes in p4 that they corrected in p5.

[Wolfherz]

Not sure how you take too long before clearing a floor in either P3P or P5R to make the Reaper spawn unintentionally. The Reaper isn't even hard, and it's a good source of XP. I honestly hate how it spawns in P4G. Having to keep mental note of how many chests you've looted is annoying. P3P and P5R do the Reaper right.

[Desticler]

Originally posted by Frey:

Not sure how you take too long before clearing a floor in either P3P or P5R to make the Reaper spawn unintentionally. The Reaper isn't even hard, and it's a good source of XP. I honestly hate how it spawns in P4G. Having to keep mental note of how many chests you've looted is annoying. P3P and P5R do the Reaper right.

I absolutely agree with this. The way it works in P4G felt like the game actively didn't want me to fight him, which, if you look at how many great and different drops he has, is clearly not supposed to be the case.

[Evil Heart]

dont overgrind your characters, use the dificulty option to get extra exp, then kill enemies until lveing up takes more than 10 minutes, if you're at that point, prob you're already good for the current boss, when you're at 6th stage, you will be strong enough to get one of elizabeth's request wich needs to defeat the reaper, and after that point, you will get access to monnad, a secret extra floor wich gives tons of exp so don't really worry much about it

[TheRandomGuy]

If you really wanted to grind that badly,

Make it to December, take the bad ending, start new game plus which gives you access to Monad, and grind there. All enemies in Monad are like level 90 and you can basically get your character and party to level 70-80 fairly quick there. You can enter it in NG+ by the door in the entrance to Tartarus.

As for the Reaper, just don't linger in either P3 or P5. Some floors spawn him faster though, namely ones with higher level enemies (indicated by Fuuka telling you), Golden Hand Floors, or Treasure Floors (The Reaper will spawn in around 20-30 seconds from the start of treasure floors (Fuuka will say she has a bad feeling on the floor).

In Persona 5, Morgana will give you a heads up if the Reaper spawns, and it's rare but some Mementos Alterations can have him spawn immediately too.

In Persona 4 you likely won't ever see the Reaper unless you try to get him. You have to unlock 21 chests in a row to spawn him, and that chain gets broken if you get to that number, hear the chains, and get into a battle.

[WolfWhiteFire]

In Persona 3 at least, I have found it is very easy to escape the Reaper by having your companions split up. Split up when the Reaper gets close with the characters set to fight shadows, you can pretty easily distract it with one of your party members while you make your way to the exit.

Do it fast enough and your party member will survive as well, just be teleported back to the entrance without a death to make them tired. You do want to find a way back to the entrance shortly after doing this to fill out your party again, but I found when just grinding in already completed floors it isn't much of a burden to take the next teleporter out.

Persona 5, that isn't even necessary, you can just move either up or down in the menu, so when the Reaper shows up you can just teleport to safety for free. When I was strong enough to fight it I also tested how hard it was to avoid and found you can literally run in a circle around it a few dozen times and be perfectly fine. It can only start a fight by hitting you with its blade, and the animation is slow enough to be easily dodged as long as you aren't stationary or walking into it.

[OnlyOffensive]

Originally posted by Vermilion:

Atlus made so many mistakes in p4 that they corrected in p5.

really? I felt like p4 was better in every way except maybe combat/UI. Even though p4 is probably most broken when it comes to making invincible MC