"New, remastered graphics for modern consoles"

[Aurast]

yea, "New, remastered graphics for modern consoles" my butt, everyone looks so sad and plain

[Yekkusu]

It's persona 3 in it's most downgraded version graphically and presentation-wise, with a better party system, and faster animations for Social Links with another protagonist so you can date the boys without feeling you're gay because you're controlling a woman instead of a guy.

That's what you have with P3P.
I'm more annoyed with the price, the same as P4G. That's dumb.

[Blair Fujin]

I mean... it is p3p with retouched graphics, that's not the original psp 480x272 resolution stretched out to current resolutions
but... that's pretty much just it

[KingKrouch]

The AI upscaling has visible seams and other assorted problems that looks like AI generated images from ten years ago. There's AI algorithms that look way better than the results from this.

You'd think that a company like Atlus and Sega would save the work files (Any PSDs, etc) before they're compressed down to PSP sizes, but apparently not.

Hopefully someone gets around to porting the available texture pack mods to the PC version of the game, Because the other quality of life improvements (setting aside hardcoded FPS limiter options (Persona 5 Royal behaves just fine above 120, and those limiters should be based on factors of the screen refresh rate for no stuttering on non-FreeSync displays) and arbitrary aspect ratio support during gameplay) are here, which is more than I can say about a majority of Sega's cashgrab releases now. $20 is a fair price, and most complaints around Denuvo are invalid, but it's a shame that more care wasn't put into this release (Especially as this version of Persona 3 is the only legally available version if you don't count the PS2 FES release's reprints on Amazon).

I'll at least give them this, it's better than the state Nocturne HD shipped in.

[Shadowlet]

I'll at least give them this, it's better than the state Nocturne HD shipped in.

In what way? Because of the FPS limit? lol

Nocturne actually got remastered for one, added voice acting to the game, bunch of QOL, also has the option to play the base game if you so choose.

[KingKrouch]

Originally posted by Shadowlet:

I'll at least give them this, it's better than the state Nocturne HD shipped in.

In what way? Because of the FPS limit? lol

Nocturne actually got remastered for one, added voice acting to the game, bunch of QOL, also has the option to play the base game if you so choose.

Nocturne HD costed $70 for the full experience, while the PS2 reprints are about $20 on Amazon, does some really jank stuff with render targets (The in-game shadows and all of the stuff including the in-game camera are all composed to UI elements, rather than the systems Unity already has in place, if you want things looking crisp, just emulate the PS2 version), censors christian crosses, butchers the lighting and textures in a lot of areas (Which look fine on PS2), and the game has a bunch of problems that were due to sloppily porting the entire thing to Unity. The cap is just a warning sign of what's to come, and honestly I don't think the English dub is good enough to justify the added cost. Not to mention extremely baffling stutter and performance issues, and insanely long loading times on consoles.

Still no mods to fix a good chunk of the issues (Setting aside the JUICE BOX-tier audio quality for music), because the game uses IL2CPP. I ended up buying the game from a Humble sale for $35 (instead of paying $70), and I'm honestly glad I did.

I'd really compare Nocturne HD to Sonic Adventure DX. If you actively defend that, then you are a typical Steam forum consoomer.

[myronik]

Originally posted by KingKrouch:

You'd think that a company like Atlus and Sega would save the work files (Any PSDs, etc) before they're compressed down to PSP sizes, but apparently not.

I wonder how those horible backgrounds even went past Quality Control? How anyone couldn't notice huge artifacts from AI upscaling or decided to leave them as is and release the game in that state?
How anyone couldn't hire an artist to go through all those backgrounds and at least clean them up slightly in Photoshop?

Honestly, this is the level of quality Atlus fanboys and shills (who furiously defended past ports issues) truly deserve.

[toughnails]

Originally posted by Shadowlet:

I'll at least give them this, it's better than the state Nocturne HD shipped in.

In what way? Because of the FPS limit? lol

Nocturne actually got remastered for one, added voice acting to the game, bunch of QOL, also has the option to play the base game if you so choose.

Just so you know, this guy doesn't play any game past the initial 3-5 hours, he just writes tech reviews to farm awards, so yeah for him it's the framerate lmao.

I'm pretty sure that everyone would love to see a Nocturne style remaster of P3. All content, best graphics, many QoL fixes. But instead we got a lazy AI upscale of the worst version.

[KingKrouch]

Originally posted by myronik:

I wonder how those horible backgrounds even went past Quality Control? How anyone couldn't notice huge artifacts from AI upscaling or decided to leave them as is and release the game in that state?
How anyone couldn't hire an artist to go through all those backgrounds and at least clean them up slightly in Photoshop?

Honestly, this is the level of quality Atlus fanboys and shills that defend ANYTHING truly deserve.

Welcome to the hellscape that is Japanese PC ports on Steam. No matter what you release (Even if it's a quick cashgrab that is worse than an emulated version, or a release that won't last a few years without aging like milk), there will be brainlets that defend literally anything, thus the standards are incredibly low (Come on, it's been ten years since Dark Souls PTDE, and Elden Ring still launched the way it did, and hasn't been properly patched yet).

The only way half of these are considered acceptable is if you have a Steam Deck. When you release something that is worse than a console version running in an emulator, maybe you shouldn't be releasing games on Steam, there's already enough of a quality control problem, and buying new releases is a gamble on whether it's going to be busted at launch. Another gaming crash should happen.

[Frostea]

Originally posted by toughnails:

Originally posted by Shadowlet:

In what way? Because of the FPS limit? lol

Nocturne actually got remastered for one, added voice acting to the game, bunch of QOL, also has the option to play the base game if you so choose.

Just so you know, this guy doesn't play any game past the initial 3-5 hours, he just writes tech reviews to farm awards, so yeah for him it's the framerate lmao.

I'm pretty sure that everyone would love to see a Nocturne style remaster of P3. All content, best graphics, many QoL fixes. But instead we got a lazy AI upscale of the worst version.

Dude also has a pic on his profile making fun of people for posting useless reviews.
Then has a negative review of doom eternal that's not even talking about the game itself, it's just talking about the Mick Gordon situation.

[KingKrouch]

Originally posted by toughnails:

Originally posted by Shadowlet:

In what way? Because of the FPS limit? lol

Nocturne actually got remastered for one, added voice acting to the game, bunch of QOL, also has the option to play the base game if you so choose.

Just so you know, this guy doesn't play any game past the initial 3-5 hours, he just writes tech reviews to farm awards, so yeah for him it's the framerate lmao.

I'm pretty sure that everyone would love to see a Nocturne style remaster of P3. All content, best graphics, many QoL fixes. But instead we got a lazy AI upscale of the worst version.

If it makes you feel any better, I spent 80+ hours playing the new Neptunia game. Just been busy with other things, so I can't keep up with all of the new game releases. Been also playing games in my backlog on the Steam Deck. And if you haven't noticed, nobody has really filled the same void as TB and others, so if you aren't expecting me to actually criticize how a rerelease of a game is, then you are clearly going to the wrong person for a review, I'm sorry I don't sip soy milk and tell people to consoom product unquestionably.

Also, wild ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ assumption about the reward farming. You probably cook up bad takes on the Steam forums (The place where most people don't go to) to farm clown awards. Would explain why your profile is private. For someone "toughnails" you sure are a ♥♥♥♥♥.

[KingKrouch]

Originally posted by Frostea:

Dude also has a pic on his profile making fun of people for posting useless reviews.
Then has a negative review of doom eternal that's not even talking about the game itself, it's just talking about the Mick Gordon situation.

If you haven't noticed, I did put my thoughts on the game, just that I don't think people should be supporting a company like Bethesda. Waaaahhh, someone criticized predatory business practices! Cry me a river. Still more indicative about the quality of the game than most spam reviews.

[Frostea]

Originally posted by KingKrouch:

Originally posted by Frostea:

Dude also has a pic on his profile making fun of people for posting useless reviews.
Then has a negative review of doom eternal that's not even talking about the game itself, it's just talking about the Mick Gordon situation.

If you haven't noticed, I did put my thoughts on the game, just that I don't think people should be supporting a company like Bethesda. Waaaahhh, someone criticized predatory business practices! Cry me a river. Still more indicative about the quality of the game than most spam reviews.

from your review

"Fantastic game, really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ optimized, but the situation regarding the soundtrack (You can read more about that here: https://medium.com/@mickgordon/my-full-statement-regarding-doom-eternal-5f98266b27ce), poor project management, and typical piss poor leadership make it really hard for me to support.

How about actually paying Mick Gordon for the other half of the soundtrack (Which was made under crunch and insane working conditions), and making things right? Unsure if I even want to buy iD's next game as a result of this. Make things right again, and I'll reconsider giving this a good review."

Where is your thoughts on the game instead of corporate stuff?

[KingKrouch]

Originally posted by Frostea:

Where is your thoughts on the game instead of corporate stuff?

Fun game, requires taking some breaks due to how overstimulating it can be at higher difficulties, the gameplay loop and taking player accountability into consideration makes things feel rewarding. Just that I think that despite that, Bethesda is somehow acting worse than a majority of publishers that engage with crunch culture, which already is an issue that is a warning sign.

Let's be honest, same people crying about people mentioning ethical concerns in their user reviews are the same people judging Hogwarts Legacy solely based on JK Rowling's bad political opinions (Even if there's the warning signs of a Cyberpunk launch ahead that are being ignored).

[Aurast]

Originally posted by KingKrouch:

The AI upscaling has visible seams and other assorted problems that looks like AI generated images from ten years ago. There's AI algorithms that look way better than the results from this.

You'd think that a company like Atlus and Sega would save the work files (Any PSDs, etc) before they're compressed down to PSP sizes, but apparently not.

Hopefully someone gets around to porting the available texture pack mods to the PC version of the game, Because the other quality of life improvements (setting aside hardcoded FPS limiter options (Persona 5 Royal behaves just fine above 120, and those limiters should be based on factors of the screen refresh rate for no stuttering on non-FreeSync displays) and arbitrary aspect ratio support during gameplay) are here, which is more than I can say about a majority of Sega's cashgrab releases now. $20 is a fair price, and most complaints around Denuvo are invalid, but it's a shame that more care wasn't put into this release (Especially as this version of Persona 3 is the only legally available version if you don't count the PS2 FES release's reprints on Amazon).

I'll at least give them this, it's better than the state Nocturne HD shipped in.

i did hear that some modders are working on working on texture pack to make the game feel like fes but not 100% on that tho

[Frostea]

Originally posted by KingKrouch:

Originally posted by Frostea:

Where is your thoughts on the game instead of corporate stuff?

Fun game, requires taking some breaks due to how overstimulating it can be at higher difficulties, the gameplay loop and taking player accountability into consideration makes things feel rewarding. Just that I think that despite that, Bethesda is somehow acting worse than a majority of publishers that engage with crunch culture, which already is an issue that is a warning sign.

Let's be honest, same people crying about people mentioning ethical concerns in their user reviews are the same people judging Hogwarts Legacy solely based on JK Rowling's bad political opinions (Even if there's the warning signs of a Cyberpunk launch ahead that are being ignored).

Bro what are you even talking about. I don't even care about Hogwarts Legacy or political stuff.