Arrow system is awful

[Love Doctor]

I've been wondering who's idea was to add more types of arrows except "big one" and also adding d-pad control over switching between them? I have old xbox 360 game controller and I accidentally switch between arrows when healing and instead great shot I send useless storm or homing arrow. Died a lot because of that.
Shame on you.

[Fenix]

Skill Issue clearly
Just because you fat fingered up on the d-pad and hit left or right doesn’t make it a bad system… someone might wanna switch on the fly… and not go thru the menu.

And FYI I’ve switched them by mistake too, so…but that was on me for not being careful.

[Love Doctor]

My sweet child of summer, try googling xbox 360 controller and how old d-pad looked like.
If that system is not optimised for classic gamepads then it is bad. Someone literally wanted to use d-pad more and added 2 useless types of arrows.
No need to switch between arrows if only 1 type is good and its existence makes sense.

[VerySigma52]

The most awful part is the point of types arrows. Piercing arrow is the best, deals much damage, destroys shields, pierce enemies. Meanwhile explosive arrow (IDK how it's called, I was playing on russian localisation) deals damage periodically. Bosses can escape place of explosion, and you will deal less damage. Homing is weird, I still have no idea how it works. Even the only good wiki I could find can't say exact damage of this arrow (damage depends on hitbox size, which makes this arrow pointless too)

Piercing arrow can do everything that other arrow can't

BTW almost every boss can teleport, it makes homing and explosive arrows useless, as they can't deal their own 100% of damage

[Fenix]

Originally posted by Love Doctor:

My sweet child of summer, try googling xbox 360 controller and how old d-pad looked like.
If that system is not optimised for classic gamepads then it is bad. Someone literally wanted to use d-pad more and added 2 useless types of arrows.
No need to switch between arrows if only 1 type is good and its existence makes sense.

I like the shadow hunter arrow, it’s not as useful as the cloud piercer… now the thunder one sucks.

I’ll be 49 this year… I’ve been playing games for over 40 years, owning just about everything major game console from the Atari 2600 to current generation… PS5, Xbox Series S and the Switch…. I remember the d-pad on the 360 being ♥♥♥♥…. But still

[Frid]

I would grind and max them all out if I was you, switching to a bad one mid fight can be very costly.

[Love Doctor]

Originally posted by Frid:

I would grind and max them all out if I was you, switching to a bad one mid fight can be very costly.

That's a good advice.
I've completed the game already and its a very good product but this tiny arrow thing is like a drop of tar in a massive barrel of honey

[Gregorio]

You can modify the arrow change bind in the settings

[CJones]

The XBox 360 controller is pretty awful, especially the D-Pad. The XBox One controller OTOH is great. Same layout, but WAY better constructed. You might want to invest in one.

[leo_gear]

Originally posted by Gregorio:

You can modify the arrow change bind in the settings

I was just about to ask that. I didn't change any of the key binds but I recall a few not liking the shoulder buttons being parry. I figure you can just change which button swaps arrows.

As for the usefulness of the other arrows, they're not supposed to be just for bosses. If anything, the thunder burst arrow is meant for crowds of enemies most of all, certainly not a huge boss tool. Shadow Hunter I've seen used for various things, to include taking down Eigong. Sure, she teleports around, but if you're trying to get damage on her without stunning her to break her combos, it does quite a bit of damage AND you don't have to aim it directly at her.

They're all tools meant to be used for different strategies. If you don't like them, it's probably because you haven't bothered trying different strategies or builds for them.

[Fenix]

8bitdo makes good controllers for cheap.

[Songbird]

Shadow Hunter deals significantly more damage than the others to bosses and is used for speedruns (except those that ban bow).

Thunder Burst does more damage than Cloud Piercer, but is generally not too useful except for DPS on certain bosses who let you hit the whole thing, when you don't have Shadow Hunter yet (e.g. Sky-Rending Claw).

Cloud Piercer has the most useful AoE and properties for general mobbing and stuns, but if you don't need the stun, it's a fair bit less damage to bosses. I'll see a lot of people just fire off a bunch of these in a row against a boss, and you might as well just use Shadow Hunter if you're going to do that.

[Taf79]

X360 Dpad is some of the worst Dpads...

[KingDragoon]

so you don't know ow to prss buttons, yet that's the game's fault? Diagnostic: Skill issue.

[Love Doctor]

Originally posted by KingDragoon:

so you don't know ow to prss buttons, yet that's the game's fault? Diagnostic: Skill issue.

So you dont know ow to read? Everything's explained in this thread already. And yeah, it's the game's design's fault.
Also, I'm pianist, son, pressing buttons was my job even before you were born.

[Fenix]

Originally posted by Love Doctor:

Originally posted by KingDragoon:

so you don't know ow to prss buttons, yet that's the game's fault? Diagnostic: Skill issue.

So you dont know ow to read? Everything's explained in this thread already. And yeah, it's the game's design's fault.
Also, I'm pianist, son, pressing buttons was my job even before you were born.

I don't maybe get a new controller without a garbage D-Pad, maybe?