PUBG kinda ruined it for everybody. The cancer spread.

[Ceceli Δ]

There isn't much skill involved when you get surprised by the enemy's secret high level gear.

I headshot a guy with an Anvil dealing 48 damage, pushed him so he wouldn't have time to heal and shot him with an Il Toro dealing 38 damage. That totals 87 damage. Meanwhile, he just spams a Torrente dealing also 87 damange and killing me.

Anyone would have died there to me, but not him. He's special. He had a surprise high level gear.

Either this abomination should be mitigated by the visual splash of the shield going off as you shoot them having a different color according to the gear level or this should just be taken off the game. Because if not, here's what's gonna happen: people will learn, they well adapt and we're gonna reach a stalemate. No one will push anymore because we don't know how tanky the enemy is. Camping is gonna be terrible.

I know it's a third person shooter and camping is a part of it. People will lick walls. That's the nature of the beast. But add to that secret high level gear?? Recipe for disaster! I sure won't be spending 40$ on this.

I'm glad some kind person gave me a key yesterday so I got to experience the game before players leveled up.

[Vivid VIII]

This happened to me today, unloaded on a guy and he tanked everything and 2 tapped me. This game was designed for those people that work 8 hours then spend 12 hours behind the monitor. Im good I got a life outside of games and dont have time for this stuff. This is a streamers/no-lifer game, I honestly could see Embark selling shortcuts to higher tier gear in the future, hard pass on this one.

[Ceceli Δ]

Originally posted by Vivid VIII:

This happened to me today, unloaded on a guy and he tanked everything and 2 tapped me. This game was designed for those people that work 8 hours then spend 12 hours behind the monitor. Im good I got a life outside of games and dont have time for this stuff. This is a streamers/no-lifer game, I honestly could see Embark selling shortcuts to higher tier gear in the future, hard pass on this one.

Yeah, kinda. I may spend that kind of time in a game if I'm super hyped and if I have friends playing with me, but not on a game that doesn't respect my time. Investing time to build your hideout, killing players, getting their gears, farming, looting, grinding, then getting into the match you see a guy, you make the best play possible, you spend about 20min from spawn to that place where you will engage the enemy, you hit him dead on in the head and then... DEAD. He killed you in a totally BS situation. That's disrespectful af of the devs.

[Ceceli Δ]

Another thing I was noticing while watching my clips and seeing my friends playing for the first time today is that ALL weapons in this game is made trash and irrelevant because of high gear. You can't enjoy any of the many cool weapons because they are not effective against a players using the same old meta combo of Purple Armor + Torrente. Devs undermined their whole game with this trash take. And you'd think they would have learned by now after having developed Battlefront 2 and The Finals. Jesus...

[Ceceli Δ]

Oh, look. I got a reward and the guy who agreed with me also got a reward. Thanks to whomever did this

[pikupupu]

You could just granite or gas the enemy first? Or xD friendly team up? We don't have to shoot every Raiders we see. Mut sadly mostly everyone are shooting before asking.
I think its meant to mix up not so good aimers and with good aimers. So you never know whats gonna happen in the match. And a bit weaker aimer could have change of survived if he have heavy armors, but he might be slow and getting cought by Arcs robots.
There for new casual players can join the game more easily. If the game is too hard skill like Naraka. It would be just too big skillcap to even start to play the game.

I mean you can play this game with very skillful and tactical ways , if players want. Or just go bang bang yolo on open field. Or sneaky sneaky whole game... xD Anything is option this game. Or set traps around buildings. There is so many fun ways to play this game.
But I agree its so annoying getting shot from camber angle. You walking and not even see enemies.

[Gui205]

That's real. Like Apex do

[Ceceli Δ]

Originally posted by pikupupu:

You could just granite or gas the enemy first? Or xD friendly team up? We don't have to shoot every Raiders we see. Mut sadly mostly everyone are shooting before asking.
I think its meant to mix up not so good aimers and with good aimers. So you never know whats gonna happen in the match. And a bit weaker aimer could have change of survived if he have heavy armors, but he might be slow and getting cought by Arcs robots.
There for new casual players can join the game more easily. If the game is too hard skill like Naraka. It would be just too big skillcap to even start to play the game.

I mean you can play this game with very skillful and tactical ways , if players want. Or just go bang bang yolo on open field. Or sneaky sneaky whole game... xD Anything is option this game. Or set traps around buildings. There is so many fun ways to play this game.
But I agree its so annoying getting shot from camber angle. You walking and not even see enemies.

Not really. You can play sneaky, tactically, skillfuly, whatever you can think of... all that goes out the window when you face someone with a secret higher lever armor with an insane OP weapon like Torrente. You'll sneak a headshot with an Anvil and the guy will just tank it and shred you to pieces.

[Ceceli Δ]

Originally posted by Gui205:

That's real. Like Apex do

Yep. Another game I didn't even bother just because of the armor system, plus the complementary classes system, which is an abomination. At least we don't have the latter in Arc Raiders.

[Nescria]

dont bum rush people until you see the shield break, the heavy shield is def killable even with a stitcher you just need to play to your advantage in that situation which is mobility, the heavy shield is -15% move speed

[Pun¦§h3r]

yep the shields should be equalized in PvP, only bonus shield applies vs the ARC

[Ceceli Δ]

Originally posted by Nescria:

dont bum rush people until you see the shield break, the heavy shield is def killable even with a stitcher you just need to play to your advantage in that situation which is mobility, the heavy shield is -15% move speed

Good advice! Thanks. But that would handicap you because you'd rely on the shield completely breaking. If it's at 30% - judging by how many times you shot the guy with whatever weapon - it's already good enough for you to bum rush.

[Ceceli Δ]

Originally posted by Pun¦§h3r:

yep the shields should be equalized in PvP, only bonus shield applies vs the ARC

That is an excellent suggestion! I'm not saying it's better or worse than what I said, but I like when people spitball good ideas. I hope devs read this.

[Ceceli Δ]

I found a clip showing how tanky the Purple Armor is. This is nuts!

It starts at 3:00.

One more. At 9:20 this dude just changes armor while pushing forward so he doesn't even have to stop to recharge the one that is broken. Jesus... There should be a down time to swap armor.

https://youtu.be/Wfy67omsbco?t=181

[McDinglefart]

Lol streamers game.

[leaf]

thats literally the point of the genre. better gear makes you more powerful while also raising the stakes. its supposed to give you an advantage.

do not pick a fight unless you know what you're up against or have some sort of tactical advantage. this isnt your typical shooter where every fight is equal nor is it supposed to be.

if you consider this a problem, the genre is not for you. its not a problem with the game.