This is an extraction shooter now?

[Paper Rival]

Boo. Was looking forward to it as a PVE game. Removed from wishlist.

Happy for PvP players though...

the game looks impressive, I'm just too old to keep up with ya'll.

[Northy]

whats sad it was a very fun as a PVE game which i actually played in some of the super early tests. When they switched to PVP the sheer number of cheaters and overall not fun is extreme now

[Paper Rival]

Originally posted by Northy:

whats sad it was a very fun as a PVE game which i actually played in some of the super early tests. When they switched to PVP the sheer number of cheaters and overall not fun is extreme now

Wow, yeh that's about what I'd expect.

I just have no interest in dealing with cheaters and trying to compete with people that derive their self worth from how skilled they are at a video game.

With PvE you can actually get immersed in the world and the gameplay loop doesn't revolve around the potential frustration of dying.

Ugh, what a shame.

Maybe the devs will reconsider when everyone abandons it for the next big PvP trend. By then it will probably be too late though. Now they're competing with Bungie and whatever their extraction shooter is called. (To be fair, this does look better then that game though.)

[NathanLurker]

Originally posted by Northy:

whats sad it was a very fun as a PVE game which i actually played in some of the super early tests. When they switched to PVP the sheer number of cheaters and overall not fun is extreme now

Pvp was already added at the closed alpha from 2023. How would you have played a PVE only version of the game ?

I dont think I saw any cheating issue during my time in the tests. I found the game to be very immersive regardless of the presence of pvp. Some missions require you to extract with specific loot but others are completed from just interactong with things or exploring a place, so dying in game doesnt prevent all progress. I hope they do great story telling with this game. I would have enjoyed a coop pve version of this game with cool seasonal storytelling, but its Embark's baby and they believe the game is more fun as a pvpve. We'll see how it goes.

[patrick68794]

Originally posted by NathanLurker:

Originally posted by Northy:

whats sad it was a very fun as a PVE game which i actually played in some of the super early tests. When they switched to PVP the sheer number of cheaters and overall not fun is extreme now

Pvp was already added at the closed alpha from 2023. How would you have played a PVE only version of the game ?

I dont think I saw any cheating issue during my time in the tests. I found the game to be very immersive regardless of the presence of pvp. Some missions require you to extract with specific loot but others are completed from just interactong with things or exploring a place, so dying in game doesnt prevent all progress. I hope they do great story telling with this game. I would have enjoyed a coop pve version of this game with cool seasonal storytelling, but its Embark's baby and they believe the game is more fun as a pvpve. We'll see how it goes.

It's simple, they didn't

[NOIR-GOLD]

Game looks amazing . I am so ready to get lost in ARC . There is nothing like people looting for 10 min you kill them and extract there loot . Take my $ ARC lol

[Carmelo Harris]

What cheaters? lmfao have you even been in any of the play tests?

[VelxraTV]

Im not big on extraction shooters either. Add it to the pile of other failed attempts. But if they also have PVE without forced PVP it could do well in this setting. As this combination could make it a Helldivers 2 2.0 in a sense.

[Diviy]

U're kinda late on the clock my friend.
Why don't like PVP games?

[Orphan Puncher]

im glad its gone PVP extraction personally. there is plenty of single player games that are good for PVE.

[AXL]

God Bless it's PVP shooter.

[V.V.R]

Same, when the game was announced, it was PVE coop shooter, now it's "another" pvpve extraction clone. Lost all interest, funny that I got invited to test, because I enlist when it was known as PVE still

[Airkixer]

There's already so many options for pvp extraction shooters. PVE games don't have the longevity of them simply because of the nature of AI enemies and tailored experiences getting repetitive.

Seeing this change away from pve to pvp is immensely disappointing personally.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Orphan Puncher:

im glad its gone PVP extraction personally. there is plenty of single player games that are good for PVE.

People want co-op PvE games, which aren't made by teams like this that often anymore.

I enjoy PvP in The Finals but not in a game like this, spending 10 minutes to get dropped by someone looking specifically for a different type of game sucks. The small hits of dopamine those sorts of engagements provide don't do it for me anymore, I'd rather see steady progress than risk wasting time.