Why is PvP included ? Mistake !!

[Deltium]

I watched a review from Force Gaming and even he indicated that only a PvE version would have been better. The extraction nature of this game is a mistake and Helldivers proved that there is a market for PvE looter shooters ! The comments in his video are near unanimous that this was indeed a fatal development decision.

[BananaGlass 🍌]

Helldivers is not a looter shooter

[Grimmsch]

If Force says so.

[Flavalicious]

Whos force gaming and we should we care? Lol

[Min/Max]

This game should have stayed PvE

[KarN.]

Helldivers might not be a looter shooter but it is a coop PvE shooter that did prove that there is far more demand for PvE coop games than another PvP or PvEvP extraction shooter. This was a horrible decision from a business stand point and the proof of which will not if but when they add full in game monetisation with season passes and battle passes and in game store. All because there isn't a large enough player base to support the game, thanks to the switch in genres.

Extraction shooters are niche at best. The stats don't lie. Look at player numbers for PvP extraction shooters compared to PvE looter shooters (that might have a separate PvP mode like Destiny 2 and that game is trash now). The numbers don't lie.

The simple fact is the extraction shooter players will go back to Tarkov (even though its riddled with hackers) due to it being closer to a military sim in terms of its play style (more realistic). Helldivers is already covering the coop third person action shooter genre and players will just go back to it after trying Arc Raiders. Then there's actually looter shooters that will keep their player base due to their being no real competition now.

It's just a bad business decision and I feel sorry for the devs that worked hard on this game. It's the same studio that made the Finals and even that game which was match based PvP didn't do well. It's just dumb that changed genre before even getting into Early Access and see what the feedback is like. One bad decision always leads to another.

[Grimmsch]

Originally posted by Deltium:

I watched a review from Force Gaming and even he indicated that only a PvE version would have been better. The extraction nature of this game is a mistake and Helldivers proved that there is a market for PvE looter shooters ! The comments in his video are near unanimous that this was indeed a fatal development decision.

I watched the video and 1:54 in

Seems like a pretty damn good extraction game from what I've played over this weekend. I was quite impressed with the preview just about everything about it from the overall gameplay and the design to the visuals the animations and even the games performance. Everything had a high degree of quality and polish across the board. I mean I really enjoyed no I even had a blast playing this game over the past couple of days during this test and this has convinced me that I will certainly be playing it once again

[info]

it should be extraction PvE. not PvP
the atmosphere should be: nothing nothing silence BOOM SHOT, not constant skirmish.

[RoniZ]

Bad call to move to a pvp extraction shooter.

[crawlee]

If they want my money and to support a battlepass it will need to have a pve only option like it was before they changed it grayzone warfare has ian option for pve only and i do not see why all of us cant play the way we want to play. have been really hyped for this game along time now not so much.

[TeeGR]

Well said KarN . I lost all interest as soon as I saw you cant do PvE exclusively. I mean even older games like Division 2 devs noticed that the demand for PvE modes is a lot higher.

[MaDion]

Division has PvP any extraction shooter without PvP becomes dull and uninteresting very rapidly if you want PvE only go Play The First Descendant is free to play also.