To people saying Arc Raiders dropping PvE was a good idea.

[D.e.v.i.OS]

Go look at Overwatch 2's
Steam Page and just look at those reviews..

[D.e.v.i.OS]

Go ahead.
I'll wait.

[Grimmsch]

They did not drop PvE. They added PvP.
A false premise so there is not much more to discuss.

[kissakias]

󠀡󠀡 původně napsal:

Go look at Overwatch 2's
Steam Page and just look at those reviews..

problem is that arc raiders has something very valuable in its graphics, the animation, the whole world that created, a very good atmosphere
this is gone now.
see the game you mention, didnt like it at all, so didnt read any reviews.

[Gearhart]

kissakias původně napsal:

󠀡󠀡 původně napsal:

Go look at Overwatch 2's
Steam Page and just look at those reviews..

problem is that arc raiders has something very valuable in its graphics, the animation, the whole world that created, a very good atmosphere
this is gone now.
see the game you mention, didnt like it at all, so didnt read any reviews.

The whole point of overwatch 2 originally was there was gonna be a very big pve/solo part to the game thus justifying making a 2. they then decided to drop that and basically charged everyone who didnt own the original to buy overwatch 1.5 which is just overwatch with paid battle pass

[富士葵 『F U J I _A O I』]

Grimmsch původně napsal:

They did not drop PvE. They added PvP.
A false premise so there is not much more to discuss.

They REPLACED PvE with PvPvE

Ironic that you are telling people to get their facts straight when you did not either.

[kissakias]

Gearhart původně napsal:

kissakias původně napsal:

problem is that arc raiders has something very valuable in its graphics, the animation, the whole world that created, a very good atmosphere
this is gone now.
see the game you mention, didnt like it at all, so didnt read any reviews.

The whole point of overwatch 2 originally was there was gonna be a very big pve/solo part to the game thus justifying making a 2. they then decided to drop that and basically charged everyone who didnt own the original to buy overwatch 1.5 which is just overwatch with paid battle pass

overwatch has bad animations world is like cartoon. what type it is isnt the only thing in a game.
And i as see ,its only 1st person view. uncompairable with arc raiders.
PLUS didnt find any pve video in YT.

[Mmaster116]

kissakias původně napsal:

Gearhart původně napsal:

The whole point of overwatch 2 originally was there was gonna be a very big pve/solo part to the game thus justifying making a 2. they then decided to drop that and basically charged everyone who didnt own the original to buy overwatch 1.5 which is just overwatch with paid battle pass

overwatch has bad animations world is like cartoon. what type it is isnt the only thing in a game.
And i as see ,its only 1st person view. uncompairable with arc raiders.
PLUS didnt find any pve video in YT.

It was initially marketed as a co-op PvE shooter, and they saw Bungie make their own extraction shooter, and thought "We should cash in on this."

Patrick Soderlund being the CEO should tell you how well their games are going to do (news flash, they aren't going to be longterm games), seemingly as he ran the Battlefield series into the ground with BFV.

[Rex Smashington]

Overwatch was always terrible though. PVE wouldn't have saved it. Just would have made it more mind numbing for an even dumber audience who enjoys shooting at bots.

[D.e.v.i.OS]

So far no one has made a single compelling enough reason for why PvPvE is better then PvE.
So I stand by my OP

[Mmaster116]

󠀡󠀡 původně napsal:

So far no one has made a single compelling enough reason for why PvPvE is better then PvE.
So I stand by my OP

Tarkov - Infested with cheaters
The Cycle - Infested with cheaters
Hunt Showdown - Infested with cheaters
Marauders - Infested with closet cheaters.

Basically every popular extraction shooter is infested with cheaters, this game will be no different, if it was built purely for PvE, cheaters aren't really going to exist outside of players that are completely garbage at the game and need the advantage given to them.

[D.e.v.i.OS]

Mmaster116 původně napsal:

󠀡󠀡 původně napsal:

So far no one has made a single compelling enough reason for why PvPvE is better then PvE.
So I stand by my OP

Tarkov - Infested with cheaters
The Cycle - Infested with cheaters
Hunt Showdown - Infested with cheaters
Marauders - Infested with closet cheaters.

Basically every popular extraction shooter is infested with cheaters, this game will be no different, if it was built purely for PvE, cheaters aren't really going to exist outside of players that are completely garbage at the game and need the advantage given to them.

YEAH
I agree
PVE is far better the PVPVE that is my Op

[Hybarf Tics]

PVPVE has only one consequence, to deprive PVE players of a good time playing a game the way they would have loved.
This game could have been done by allowing freedom of choice the way "New World" did it by allowing players to leave town as a PVP or PVE player with both enjoying the game the way they see fit.
Nothing simpler than that.

[HiraBeing🩰🦢]

Overwatch PvE only a walking simulator
what are you talking about?

[Catman]

HiroBeing🌌 původně napsal:

Overwatch PvE only a walking simulator
what are you talking about?

This is so true, the PVE element in OW has always sucked.

Hybarf Tics původně napsal:

PVPVE has only one consequence, to deprive PVE players of a good time playing a game the way they would have loved.
This game could have been done by allowing freedom of choice the way "New World" did it by allowing players to leave town as a PVP or PVE player with both enjoying the game the way they see fit.
Nothing simpler than that.

"PVPVE has only one consequence, to deprive PVE players of a good time playing a game the way they would have loved."

Also true, for most PVPVE players the real joy/rush we get out of the game is mostly by taking joy from others.

[Alpharius Nox]

Perhaps Modern Warfare Zombies will quench many people's thirst for a AAA quality co-op experience? I'm looking forward to it for sure!

ARC Raiders might have been a great game, but now, meh. Its going to be popular on release, then fade away like most extraction shooters. Unless they add PVE servers.