Show me a extraction shooter besides Tarkov that has a solid player base?

[Warlander]

You cant because its a ♥♥♥♥ niche genre that will fail. what was the last one that came out ? well didnt even make it out of early access? Cycle frontier lol, arguably not a bad game, but just not enough players, theres more to. These devs are idiots that might as well just stop wasting money on developing a still born game.

But first company that takes the extraction style game, make it co-op only, and have a horde type AI system that will hound you to extraction is going to be a winner. was really hoping this would be it. ( after i took it off my wishlist i couldnt even remember the name of this game had to look back through my post history to find it) and thats what its future is.

[Munnky]

Hunt: Showdown has 30k players typically.

[kissakias]

all pvpve games die very fast. simply coz everybody complaining for everything besides themselvs and leaving.

[Myztkl©-Kev]

I looked up all the stats and posted them in another thread but typically the current popular looter shooters (what this was advertised as originally) bring in over 3x the average daily players compared to the best performing extraction shooter on the market (Tarkov). The fact that Hunt is the second best performing extraction shooter at 30k, and The Cycle just died a slow painful death doesn't bode well.

[Flip]

nothing hunt: showdown definitely not a 30k players

[JamesTBG]

this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWbwlEEHYG0

[loot]

AI horde games are a dime a dozen, and all you people buy them and then instead of playing them you complain how much they suck. Then you jump on forums and say you hate playing against other people but demand AI that is sophisticated enough to be as interesting and challenging as playing against other people. It makes no sense.

Anyways to at least leave this comment on a positive note I saw Helldivers 2 is a horde shooter that might be more your thing.

[Munnky]

Oprindeligt skrevet af JamesTBG:

this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWbwlEEHYG0

Perfect take on the events and decisions leading to the switch. I played it can't wait to see what they do with it.

[Gannibal Kujoe]

Oprindeligt skrevet af JamesTBG:

this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWbwlEEHYG0

Did people watch this video? Cause I did. Embark admits they didn't know how to make PVE Arc Raiders fun, and that they couldn't make two games at once. So basically what we are getting is Embark moving over to reusing what they know as ex-Dice Battlefield devs. Bland PVP.

They thought that the world would make PVE players come along. We aren't. I ultimately just don't trust Embark. Bellular in trying to help them, hurt them severely. He shows in Embarks own blog post where they admit that they didn't know how to make PVE enjoyable in Arc raiders. Now let's all use our logic caps shall we.

Why did Embark show the game at the Videogame awards? Why did Embark say it was coming soon and to wish list it. Embark didn't have a game down but wanted to hype something anyway, or did Embark know they couldn't sell another stale PVP game? At what point did Embark start thinking, "hype gamers with one thing, then switch to another."?

"Internal testing says this is more fun."! Sure it is chief.

I've already moved over to Enshrouded. Enshrouded is a PVE survival game with all sorts of elements. No, PVP is being worked on for the games release. Force Gamine just covered it. Go read the comments in Bellular's video, the aggregate are crapping all over extraction shooters. There isn't any hype in the comments for the new Arc Raiders, that is with all the chicanery Embarked used to try and get PVEr's excited.

Out of respect for Embark I just won't post Force Gaming's video on Enshrouded. That is more respect than they gave me as a potential consumer. But, what I will show is this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1MGR3a7lYA

Almost eight-hundred thousand subscribers. Thousands of people talking about how disappointed they are at the change, saying the game is something not worth their time anymore. Right... right, PVP all the way man. PVP will definitely keep this game going. Just like the Cycle. LOLs. PVP just made it D.O.A

Deuces.

[_Chris_]

Escape from Tarkov’s peak player base was three years ago.

[Dr Doktor Profezzor Painboy]

Just saw a few videos posted here and there in the forums. And the game looked even more like dogs**t then I could have even imagined. Looks like a wannabe Tarkov mixed with PUBG, with dopey looking suits. That the devs had the actual nerve to say this was more fun. Then what they had originally planned, if insane. I truly hope this game fails. Just to show these companies what happens when you take a great idea. Then throw it away to chase a trend. Here is one I found posted just recently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjYsp3wz-zQ

[JamesTBG]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dr Doktor Profezzor Painboy:

Just saw a few videos posted here and there in the forums. And the game looked even more like dogs**t then I could have even imagined. Looks like a wannabe Tarkov with dopey looking suits. Here is one I found posted just recently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjYsp3wz-zQ

to be honest. gameplay looks pretty stale. Maybe thats why the put in the pvp aspect ...

[Dr Doktor Profezzor Painboy]

Oprindeligt skrevet af JamesTBG:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dr Doktor Profezzor Painboy:

Just saw a few videos posted here and there in the forums. And the game looked even more like dogs**t then I could have even imagined. Looks like a wannabe Tarkov with dopey looking suits. Here is one I found posted just recently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjYsp3wz-zQ

to be honest. gameplay looks pretty stale. Maybe thats why the put in the pvp aspect ...

And even that looks boring. Compared to the jetpack jumping and open crazy looking combat of the original PvE gameplay. I feel the PvE would have been better if they just focused on that. This clearly has the look of a game that switched mid development. Not sure how anyone thinks or can say this looks more fun.

[Munnky]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dr Doktor Profezzor Painboy:

Oprindeligt skrevet af JamesTBG:

to be honest. gameplay looks pretty stale. Maybe thats why the put in the pvp aspect ...

And even that looks boring. Compared to the jetpack jumping and open crazy looking combat of the original PvE gameplay. I feel the PvE would have been better if they just focused on that. This clearly has the look of a game that switched mid development. Not sure how anyone thinks or can say this looks more fun.

The devs themselves said they couldn't find the fun when prototyping the pve mode. So while the cinematic trailer looked cool, making it work in game was probably not viable. The alpha was a blast. Was really solid for an alpha build. Can't wait to see how they build upon it.

[JamesTBG]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Munnky:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Dr Doktor Profezzor Painboy:

And even that looks boring. Compared to the jetpack jumping and open crazy looking combat of the original PvE gameplay. I feel the PvE would have been better if they just focused on that. This clearly has the look of a game that switched mid development. Not sure how anyone thinks or can say this looks more fun.

The devs themselves said they couldn't find the fun when prototyping the pve mode. So while the cinematic trailer looked cool, making it work in game was probably not viable. The alpha was a blast. Was really solid for an alpha build. Can't wait to see how they build upon it.

Since its f2p I ll give it a shot. Maybe it turns out to really have fun with it :D

[DJase]

Oprindeligt skrevet af loot:

AI horde games are a dime a dozen, and all you people buy them and then instead of playing them you complain how much they suck. Then you jump on forums and say you hate playing against other people but demand AI that is sophisticated enough to be as interesting and challenging as playing against other people. It makes no sense.

Anyways to at least leave this comment on a positive note I saw Helldivers 2 is a horde shooter that might be more your thing.

bro you hit the nail of the head. 98% of ppl complaining have not even played the game and are commenting on crappy videos released out of NDA. Ok it's not the game you were getting hyped up about but no game will ever be what you hype it up to be. The switch just gave those people a reason to complain because their excitement dwindled. I was the same way but I played it with some friends and I had a good time with it even though I'm not really a fan of the genre. Reserving my final judgement for the finished product as I feel the play test was just a slice of pie in terms of content going on in the matches and that was enjoyable for me and my group. I have my reservations just like anyone but that is my default for any game released in these times. This is new and there's no reason to kill it before it even launches, which most of the flamers are currently trying to do it seems. "I don't like that genre so we must destroy it for everyone else" it's giving crybaby energy. I will happily have a discussion with people over the complaints but if you've already wrote the game off then what's the point, it won't help the game development.