Extreme Lag - Unplayable

[Johnny-Eagle]

I really like this game. I have an older PC, so I seek games that require lower specs.
This game runs fine until the large mini bosses appear before the reapers.
It then becomes so laggy that it is unplayable.
I searched this forum and saw other people experienced this after the latest patch. They describe exactly what I'm experiencing. I bought the game after this patch.

Here are the minimum requirements to run Vampire Survivors:

SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS
MINIMUM:
OS: Windows 7
Processor: Intel Pentium 4 processor or later that's SSE2 capable
Memory: 1 GB RAM
Storage: 250 MB available space

My specs:
OS: Windows 10 64bit
Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 @ 2.83GHz
6.00GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 698MHz
1024MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 6570

It's a fresh OS install with the latest ATI drivers.

Any advise? thanks.

edit. when I launch the game I choose 'play without steam overlay'

[Wiawyr]

Escrito originalmente por Cahos Rahne Veloza:

Escrito originalmente por Wiawyr:

Luckily it's a singleplayer game, so there's no possibility for lag at all. There can be issues affecting how the game runs, of course, but network latency is definitely not one of them.

Lag in this game's case is Frames Per Second (FPS) dips.

That's not what lag is, and the meaning doesn't change "case by case".

[Cahos Rahne Veloza]

Yes, there is input lag as well. But in the case the OP is referring to it is indeed FPS lag as the game begins to struggle with the crazy amount of projectiles, enemies and experience gems that the game produces on screen at a point, usually around the 26+ minute mark. This however is not noticeable for folks with high end rigs.

Also I would suggest you go to the Cities Skylines Steam forums, yes totally unrelated game, but it is there where you'll find people who poat threads where FPS dips and lag mixed up and called the same thing.

[Mccoone]

Escrito originalmente por Wiawyr:

That's not what lag is, and the meaning doesn't change "case by case".

you might want to look up the definition of lag, and meaning does infact change with context, thats how language works

[Wiawyr]

Escrito originalmente por Mccoone:

Escrito originalmente por Wiawyr:

That's not what lag is, and the meaning doesn't change "case by case".

you might want to look up the definition of lag, and meaning does infact change with context, thats how language works

Great idea, I suppose it's hard for me to summarize working in IT for two decades so here's a source for you[www.ir.com].

What is network latency?

Network latency, sometimes called lag, is the term used to describe delays in communication over a network. Latency meaning in networking is best thought of as the amount of time it takes for a packet of data to be captured, transmitted, processed through multiple devices, then received at its destination and decoded.

Lag is a specific phenomenon, and has a specific meaning. If you actually believed "and meaning does infact change with context," with regards to specific terms for things, then nothing actually means anything, right? You're being pretty savory and extremely wheel, that's so fork of bottle. Didn't really think that one out, did you? Just use context and it'll make sense you papertowel, pffft. Ahaha!

[Cahos Rahne Veloza]

Let me quote the OP's exact words for you...

Escrito originalmente por Johnny-Eagle:

I really like this game. I have an older PC, so I seek games that require lower specs.
This game runs fine until the large mini bosses appear before the reapers.
It then becomes so laggy that it is unplayable.

Now let's see if you'd understand what the OP was talking about or not. And no, just because you work in IT it doesn't mean you are knowledgeable in gaming lingo. Lag for most gamers only ever means either ping latency, Frames Per Second dips or input lag.

[Moffin Bovin]

Escrito originalmente por Wiawyr:

Escrito originalmente por Mccoone:

you might want to look up the definition of lag, and meaning does infact change with context, thats how language works

Great idea, I suppose it's hard for me to summarize working in IT for two decades so here's a source for you[www.ir.com].

What is network latency?

Network latency, sometimes called lag, is the term used to describe delays in communication over a network. Latency meaning in networking is best thought of as the amount of time it takes for a packet of data to be captured, transmitted, processed through multiple devices, then received at its destination and decoded.

Lag is a specific phenomenon, and has a specific meaning. If you actually believed "and meaning does infact change with context," with regards to specific terms for things, then nothing actually means anything, right? You're being pretty savory and extremely wheel, that's so fork of bottle. Didn't really think that one out, did you? Just use context and it'll make sense you papertowel, pffft. Ahaha!

lag is a word in the english language that means something is delayed or behind. Like if 2 people are running along and one is slower than the other, then that slower runner lags behind the first.

It generally just means that there is some type of delay.

Anyway... i only get frame rate issues if i make the game full screen with alt+enter. In windowed mode it's fine.

[Wiawyr]

Escrito originalmente por Cahos Rahne Veloza:

Let me quote the OP's exact words for you...

Escrito originalmente por Johnny-Eagle:

I really like this game. I have an older PC, so I seek games that require lower specs.
This game runs fine until the large mini bosses appear before the reapers.
It then becomes so laggy that it is unplayable.

Cool, now let me quote my exact words for you...

Escrito originalmente por Wiawyr:

Luckily it's a singleplayer game, so there's no possibility for lag at all. There can be issues affecting how the game runs, of course, but network latency is definitely not one of them.

Escrito originalmente por Cahos Rahne Veloza:

And no, just because you work in IT it doesn't mean you are knowledgeable in gaming lingo.

Oh man, that's hilarious. Mr. Gaming Lingo Policeman here to lay down the law about who is and who isn't knowledgeable in gaming lingo, that incredibly niche and esoteric hobby with such tightly-knit membership that so few know about. This has to be trolling or a complete lack of self-awareness on your part, I can't tell which is more cringe-inducing although the second one is definitely funnier.

[Xenexodus]

Escrito originalmente por Wiawyr:

Escrito originalmente por Cahos Rahne Veloza:

Let me quote the OP's exact words for you...

Cool, now let me quote my exact words for you...


Oh man, that's hilarious. Mr. Gaming Lingo Policeman here to lay down the law about who is and who isn't knowledgeable in gaming lingo, that incredibly niche and esoteric hobby with such tightly-knit membership that so few know about. This has to be trolling or a complete lack of self-awareness on your part, I can't tell which is more cringe-inducing although the second one is definitely funnier.

yep no steamer level. Stop trolling, and OH! Here's your hanky. Thanks

[Wiawyr]

Escrito originalmente por Xenexodus:

Escrito originalmente por Wiawyr:

Cool, now let me quote my exact words for you...


Oh man, that's hilarious. Mr. Gaming Lingo Policeman here to lay down the law about who is and who isn't knowledgeable in gaming lingo, that incredibly niche and esoteric hobby with such tightly-knit membership that so few know about. This has to be trolling or a complete lack of self-awareness on your part, I can't tell which is more cringe-inducing although the second one is definitely funnier.

yep no steamer level. Stop trolling, and OH! Here's your hanky. Thanks

Who wants to tell him how private profiles work on Steam, especially since his is exactly the same? And I'd rather not get a used hanky from someone who's so upset at the truth all they can do is cry "troll" with no argument to make, you can keep it, thanks. Work on your zingers while you're at it, and try to stop derailing threads.

[Volt]

Theres a combination of weapons that seem to cause a ton of lag when used together. Any setup that requires a LOT of projectiles moving on screen will cause lag.

In my experience, the worst offenders are Vandalier with Rune Tracer and Borra combined. Rune Tracer with a LOT of projectiles seem to be a big contributor in my runs, but vandalier and Borra together will grind my game to a halt as well. And by no means do I have a bad computer.

The game isnt very optimised yet. Dont worry, it's not your pc.

[Deathsway]

honest recommendation get a new PC lol PC gaming is expensive but its the best way to go hands down as a gamer with that being said i dont lag at all but my specs are way higher then yours if you wanted to upgrade your pc id start with that 1GB card a 2GB card would not cost much these days that would probly do a lot for you ram is also cheap now days

Also as someone else said do not go off the spec recommendations for this game there is WAY to much happening in the game after the 10 15 min mark

[Wiawyr]

Escrito originalmente por MichelVolt:

The game isnt very optimised yet. Dont worry, it's not your pc.

Indeed. It's not so much the sheer number of projectiles, but the transparency effects caused by different types. With +5 projectiles and increased area of effect, it can really start to add up when the screen is filled with sprites. As you noted, Vandalier and Borra are two of the largest sources of for this. I'd add on the recent evolved form of lightning ring and the king bible in both forms as also being significant sources of slowdown and compounded transparency effects.

[Cahos Rahne Veloza]

Escrito originalmente por MichelVolt:

Theres a combination of weapons that seem to cause a ton of lag when used together. Any setup that requires a LOT of projectiles moving on screen will cause lag.

In my experience, the worst offenders are Vandalier with Rune Tracer and Borra combined. Rune Tracer with a LOT of projectiles seem to be a big contributor in my runs, but vandalier and Borra together will grind my game to a halt as well. And by no means do I have a bad computer.

The game isnt very optimised yet. Dont worry, it's not your pc.

On that Missingno run I did those Jumbo Scythes, Jumbo Hellfires, the 3/4ths of the screen Souleater radius and Unholy Vespers along with the numbers of enemies and the fact I was also idling another game in the background, Soda Dungeon 2, and the fact I was also recording gameplay contributed to the FPS dip I experienced during the 26+ minute mark of the run.

[Volt]

Escrito originalmente por Deathsway:

honest recommendation get a new PC lol PC gaming is expensive but its the best way to go hands down as a gamer with that being said i dont lag at all but my specs are way higher then yours if you wanted to upgrade your pc id start with that 1GB card a 2GB card would not cost much these days that would probly do a lot for you ram is also cheap now days

Also as someone else said do not go off the spec recommendations for this game there is WAY to much happening in the game after the 10 15 min mark

My pc is 6 months old and has murder specs, yet this game drops to 5-15fps past the 25 minute mark when there's too much stuff on screen. It's the game. Not the computer.

[swrv]

Escrito originalmente por pato:

I think those are very generic requirements and are true at least for the first 5-10 minutes of the game. Afterwards the fps indeed goes down, even my i7-7700hq CPU goes down to something like 5-10 fps after about minute 20. Simply to much on the screen then for the CPU. I might get some fps by disabling the damage numbers, haven't tested that yet.

that isnt good, these graphics are dog water. you shouldnt bog down with such a high end cpu