great game, but makes me extremely sick?

[Jesse]

hey

anyone else getting severely ill from playing this game? My first few hours I had some headache after and didn't think it was related, now i've played a few more times and realized that whenever I play I get extremely physically ill for hours after - nausea, vertigo, headache, etc. I'm not sure what it is? I turned off as many graphics in the menus as possible.

I have to stop playing it, but if anyone has any tips around this or if anyone can even just explain what's going on that would be helpful? I imagine it's the amount of moving images on the screen or flashing images or something? I've never had this happen in a game before.

thanks and again, really excellent game.

[Leon]

some people get motion sickness , some more than others, and some don't really, depends how long can you handle playing the game, till you can't really and need a break.

[monstermash]

look up photosensitive epilepsy and please consult your doctor

[Raelic]

Yea, I agree with monstermash, talk to a doctor. Hope you feel better.

This one isn't motion sickness. I am extremely susceptible to motion sickness and this game is fine for me. I can't play FPS at all. I can't even play the FP RPGs.

If you insist on not seeing a doctor, here's things that help me with my issue...

Playing with lights on.
Making sure I'm facing the TV straight.
Not playing on a Large TV that takes up most of my vision and placing a large stationary object near the TV.

[Jesse]

thanks! maybe i'll try a larger screen. It's very strange, I've been playing video games for over 30 years, I've played probably a couple thousand games of every genre, I've NEVER gotten sick before. It's extremely weird.

thanks for the advice!

[Meos|Eden]

not just epilepsy, but (eye) migraine. on a bad day i could not look at this game with my eyes going funky on me. had a run a few days ago where near the end there was so much flashing that it almost got to that point and i thought that someone with epilepsy should stay away from this game.

[Meos|Eden]

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引用自 Jesse：

thanks! maybe i'll try a larger screen. It's very strange, I've been playing video games for over 30 years, I've played probably a couple thousand games of every genre, I've NEVER gotten sick before. It's extremely weird.

thanks for the advice!

And man, hadnt had problems with stuff back in the day too, but you get old and may develop conditions. Really would take the advice and talk to your family doc next time you see him.

[Demifiend]

I'm under the impression that it's the big flashing bar whenever you level up that does it for me. Even watching a stream has me feel weird after a few minutes.

[Remnant Melody]

You are experiencing light-sensitivity and overstimulation of the eyes. Its not exactly epilepsy but its adjacent. This game is fun, I like it.. but I've had to reduce my playing of it to maybe 1-2 sessions a day just so I'd stop getting massive eye-aches. It doesn't always happen, but when I'm more inclined to headache issues- its best to stay away til they clear up.

Other games you play most likely do not bombard you on this scale with a lot flashing-to-red colors (exp bar, damage to enemies/numbers) or a suddenly grow-BRIGHT bombardment (chests). This is a big trigger for us sensitivity folk. Its why I wish I could skip the damn 5-loot chest as I have to look away from the game every time til its done with its stupid gambling-gimmick thing..

You do NOT want a bigger screen, that'll actually make it worse. :(

You will want to play with a bit more light on around you, maybe even to the side of you or behind the monitor. Even a dim light to even-out the light coming from the game does help.

You can also turn off the VFX and Damage Numbers in the settings. This helped me a lot. As I got more progress in the game and more things hitting EVERY enemy, it was the flashing enemy damage and numbers that hurt me the most. Turning those off did help and you'll still see your skills going off and the chest is still obnoxious so skip them either by esc key, right clicking with mouse, or B on the controller... except for the 5-loot chest which yup, just look away til its done.

I don't understand the brains of people who insist on so much flash and color sometimes.. must be nice honestly. You may not of had it before, but it was there.. VS is just really REAAAALLY bad at bringing those issues out, hence the warning before you start. Its a shame really.

[MrMette]

There are plenty of first person games I get sick from, depending on the game and the settings in game. Some of them I had to quit after half an hour because I felt like i was going to puke (Antichamber) and I was sick for a while after playing it. Some of them like Portal or The Witness were no problem at all.

I am still not 100% sure what exactly causes it, although there were settings in Paradise Killer that mitigated it. So I am relatively sure that you don't have some form of motion sickness and that it's probably light-sensitivity like other people are saying.

I have noticed the flashing in this game as well and it can be very harsh, especially late game or when you get a new chest. Hopefully you find a solution.

Trying a larger screen might make it worse though.
I know it's not the same problem than I have, but I had no problems with Mirrors Edge on my old CRT TV back in the day, but once I got a bigger Plasma TV I couldn't play the game any more because I got sick.

[Remnant Melody]

I'ma go a smidge off topic from the light/VS issue just a heads up. I'll toss this here for any readers with First Person game issues and try and help:

Motion Blur & Depth of Field are the biggest offenders when playing any kind of FP game. Turning them off can help a lot if you can. If there is a lot of motion blurs, especially while running, or a lot of zoom in/out (DoF) it can be really bad. Think of it like in a car.. car goes, stops, goes, stops.. thats Motion Blur/DoF combo when running/stopping. If a game can let you set a DoF its good to sit around 60-80.. take for instance Minecraft, 70 is normal and fine.. but some go QuakePro mode and watching them play like that makes me so ill. That weird depth of field and blurring edges with you move just urk no stop.

I can play games like Borderlands 2, Outer Worlds and Fallout 4/Skyrim alright so long as I check those settings off if they have/use them. If they're trying to be too damn fancy with camera whipping/motion blurs and no way to turn it off? Fullstop no. Anything that whips camera motions around are just a big urk.. Take a chill game like Raft. But then the waves start going (yay!) ... but then the raft and camera just go uuuup dooown uuup... the worst. Thankfully you can turn that off, but then you lose the sound of the waves so it kinda.. meh.

All this is when ya know motion sickness might be a problem for ya! Heh.. Fun times. Welp thats my little advice on the otherside of sickness with gaming.

[Vexillarius]

It sounds like your getting a migraine. Talk to a doctor about it because you can get medication for them and it helps a lot. I get them triggered by certain games sometimes, but mainly it is from other factors like stress or eating badly. You may find its something as simple as better lighting in the area you play in or just turning down the brightness on your monitor. I have night time mode 24/7 on my computer which gives it a weird like sepia tone but i don't notice it because my eyes have are just used to it now.

[themazingness]

I skip all the chest animations because I have photophobic headaches. I wish you could skip the legendary chests. I close my eyes or look away for them if it's a bad day for it.

[vukotlak]

引用自 Jesse：

thanks! maybe i'll try a larger screen. It's very strange, I've been playing video games for over 30 years, I've played probably a couple thousand games of every genre, I've NEVER gotten sick before. It's extremely weird.

thanks for the advice!

Don't forget you grow older and the body will get weaker and more subsceptible for all kinds of problem cause of it.

Not saying it's a age related problem. But still. I have played leage of leagends back in the day and never once had the problem to follow what is happening on the screen. I came back several years later and i was drowning in everything happening on the screen. My mind is not able to follow so much "crap" at once on the screen anymore and i get a headache.

If you get muslce twitching you should absolutly visit a doctor as this has a high chance to be some kind of epileptic problem.

[Percy]

Excellent game, but I had to delete c. 12 hours in. Never had any issues gaming before, no sensitivities etc, but after an hour of this felt extremely nauseous. Would love ot keep playing but there is simply too much going on; flashing lights, weapons, enemies all moving in the same direction toward the centre of the screen, etc. By the end of the level it is too much.

[RdRStar]

i get motion sick very very easily (straight up vomited playing visage), but this game doesn't bother me at all. i'd be more concerned about epilepsy if i got sick playing a game like this. i wouldn't play any more until consulting with a doctor because epilepsy can cause actual damage if that's what's going on.