Do Power Ups only work if you collect that item in a level?

[Grey]

There are power ups for things that, as far as I know, aren't items you find when playing a level, but many of them are. So does purchasing a power up benefit you passively, or only for those with a corresponding pickup that you have to use to benefit from?

[Space is the Place]

Not sure I understand the question properly.

There are pickups, which drops on stages from light sources. There are passive items, which grant bonuses and also combine with specific weapons evolve them. And there are power ups which most generally call Upgrades which you buy with gold from the menu once you had unlocked that ability.

Pickups and passive items only affect you on that stage as you get them, and for passive items yes they do benefit you even if you don´t have the corresponding weapon. Power ups/upgrades do benefit all your characters as long as you have them active.

[Grey]

I'm referring to the "Power Ups" or Upgrades as you call them, that you buy with gold from the main menu.

And here's an example:

There's a Power Up called "Recovery" that allows you to regenerate health. However, there's also a Recovery item that you pick up when playing levels.

So, does the Recovery Power Up only affect you if you pick up the Recovery item while playing a level? Or does that Power Up always work, to the extent you've invested gold in it?

[Space is the Place]

Well, as far as I understand it, the Power Ups/Upgrades do affect all characters all the time once bought and while active, since you can turn them off. That being said, I have not dwelve into the maths of the whole thing, the wikia for the game may provide a better answer:

https://vampire-survivors.fandom.com/wiki/Recovery

Seems to me like indeed they affect all characters, but given the stats of each character or golden eggs and what not, the power up may affect differently different characters.

[Cahos Rahne Veloza]

The Main Menu Power Ups Upgrades are what Rogue-lites/likes refer to as "Meta Progression" boosts. They are Permanent, unless you refund/disable them later, Upgrades that Affects every character you have unlocked and are apart from the in-run Powerup upgrades you might pick as a levelup reward.

[Moonbane]

Originally posted by Grey:

I'm referring to the "Power Ups" or Upgrades as you call them, that you buy with gold from the main menu.

And here's an example:

There's a Power Up called "Recovery" that allows you to regenerate health. However, there's also a Recovery item that you pick up when playing levels.

So, does the Recovery Power Up only affect you if you pick up the Recovery item while playing a level? Or does that Power Up always work, to the extent you've invested gold in it?

Stage items generally should be taken AFTER youve hit the 6 limit for weapons or accessories. Meaning that once you take the stage item, you get it as the 7th. Otherwise you miss out on a free 7th item if you begin to unlock it earlier.

Also, to put in perspective. Mad Forest have spinach as stage items. If you for example take spinach from level up choices, the stage spinach items will vanish if you max out spinach from your choices without taking the stage items at all.

[Grey]

Originally posted by Moonbane:

Stage items generally should be taken AFTER youve hit the 6 limit for weapons or accessories. Meaning that once you take the stage item, you get it as the 7th. Otherwise you miss out on a free 7th item if you begin to unlock it earlier.

Also, to put in perspective. Mad Forest have spinach as stage items. If you for example take spinach from level up choices, the stage spinach items will vanish if you max out spinach from your choices without taking the stage items at all.

Interesting... but this precludes taking the weapon of its evolution pair doesn't it? It seems like you don't get weapons anymore after you pick up six, so even though you'll be picking up the stage item (spinach) you shouldn't use garlic because then something else will be unpaired?

[Moonbane]

You dont ever get 'unpaired'. Also, spinach is still useful to pick up in mad forest for the damage bonus even if you dont have godai shuffle or the fire wand. Just do it after you have your initial 6 accesories.

For example Mt Moonspell have the murasama weapon and its evolution accesory as stage items. Wait with picking them, or refrain choosing them till you have 6 weapons and 6 accesories to get it as a 7th weapon with 7th accesory that can be leveled up.

Also, dont forget that many accesories can benefit two weapons. Toronas box can work for both victory sword and flames of mispell. I always take the box due to it being a cursebuffer if it isnt present as a stage item. And both Victory Sword and Flames of Mispell is strong items.

Once per run you might get a candybox in a chest, and if it pops after you have 6 weapons, you can use it to pick a 7th weapon of choice. And i usually take flames of mispel or victory sword.

[Space is the Place]

Originally posted by Grey:

Interesting... but this precludes taking the weapon of its evolution pair doesn't it? It seems like you don't get weapons anymore after you pick up six, so even though you'll be picking up the stage item (spinach) you shouldn't use garlic because then something else will be unpaired?

Not entirely true, some weapons do combine and become one once united, although it´s a risky move, better to do it once you have the ability to seal off weapons and passive items, so you can narrow down the pool of options and get what you really desire early on.

[Grey]

Whoa! How do you get that ability?

[Space is the Place]

Originally posted by Grey:

Whoa! How do you get that ability?

Not sure, it´s just something you earn eventually to buy on the power ups menu. There are two version, both allow to ban weapons from the pool of options when you level up. First one allows you to do it in game, the second one from the collection menu. In total you can remove 20 weapons from the list.

[Moonbane]

For candy boxes to begin to spawn, you need to buy the glass wizard relic from the merchant in moongolow.

[live22morrow]

Candybox is unlocked by finding all normal weapon evolution and unions. The relic in Moongolow lets the merchant appear in every stage.

To get the Seal powerup, banish 10 weapons in one run. You can get a second seal powerup by banishing 20 (use Sigma or play on Inverse and buy banishes from merchant).