What if ascend adventure . What will happen .

[Toadragon]

Has anyone done it?

[Zephyr]

I certainly hope so!
It's pretty much the equivalent to prestige or rebirth in so many others games if you are familiar with the concept.

You reset your adventure progress to 0, but your got 1 point to assign to bonuses in different categories to make the next adventure run easier(luck, growth, greed or curse).

[Toadragon]

So only bonus points for an easier pass the second time. Somehow a little pointless.

[themazingness]

Origineel geplaatst door Toadragon:

So only bonus points for an easier pass the second time. Somehow a little pointless.

It's pretty good gold farming for the main game. And +25% to XP/Gold/luck/Curse for that adventure every time you level up is nice.

You can assign that to anything at any time (outside the stage). I have +75% in Garlic Paradice so far. I stick it all on XP until I unlock Stage 3 which is easy gold.

[Toadragon]

The problem is that the adventures are quite new and I bought everything a long time ago and I have a large amount of gold. Apart from eggs, the gold is not good for anything else, and I still don't need the eggs that much.
If it is to earn money for the main game and you are a new player, you can, but otherwise it is pointless, there are easier ways to earn money.

[hallaloth]

Origineel geplaatst door Toadragon:

The problem is that the adventures are quite new and I bought everything a long time ago and I have a large amount of gold. Apart from eggs, the gold is not good for anything else, and I still don't need the eggs that much.
If it is to earn money for the main game and you are a new player, you can, but otherwise it is pointless, there are easier ways to earn money.

Not everything is meant to (or should be) balanced to end game play. New people pick up games every day, at every skill level. Putting in new, interesting ways to enjoy different aspect of the game is a GOOD thing.

[themazingness]

Origineel geplaatst door hallaloth:

Origineel geplaatst door Toadragon:

The problem is that the adventures are quite new and I bought everything a long time ago and I have a large amount of gold. Apart from eggs, the gold is not good for anything else, and I still don't need the eggs that much.
If it is to earn money for the main game and you are a new player, you can, but otherwise it is pointless, there are easier ways to earn money.

Not everything is meant to (or should be) balanced to end game play. New people pick up games every day, at every skill level. Putting in new, interesting ways to enjoy different aspect of the game is a GOOD thing.

And that's just it. The new mode isn't any more pointless than the main game once you've done everything there that you want to do. I'm enjoying it. It's something new and engaging, though I respect it isn't going to please everyone.

[Mr.Raygun412]

I just got this game but it seems pretty fun

[Toadragon]

The idea is not bad for the adventures, just to go through them again from the beginning in the situation that you have not revealed anything one hundred percent, and for a few coins. These are slightly different or smaller than the original maps but nothing new. But by this logic of the adventure, you can just delete your save and start the whole game over. Then it won't be necessary at all.
It would be better if they gave new maps and new characters and secrets than the adventures. There should be development, in the adventures you don't go through it once and then the same again, even without restarting them.
But to whom, as he likes.
I have three adventures left to find 191 monsters and I will wait for the next new things because I have nothing else to do in the game.

[themazingness]

Origineel geplaatst door Toadragon:

But by this logic of the adventure, you can just delete your save and start the whole game over.

On the contrary, that's what's great about it. I don't have to delete my save and restart, nor do I have to play through everything again. I don't even have to unlock everything. I simply play through with whatever unlocks I feel like. It's significantly different than how i played the main game. Not only do i get to keep the progress of my main game intact, i also get a different form of progress in the adventures.

[Radiowavehero]

People like to make progress and get stronger but we also like to feel like we struggled and earned the power, once you become maxed out in normal mode it can feel too easy and just turning off all the upgrades doesn't solve that because you no longer have a goal to aim for.

Adventure mode exists as a soft way to start over again, make some progress and then restart it when you feel like it.

As far as "just delete your save" yes that is an option and people have done it , but I don't ALWAYS want to be at low power , Sometimes I feel like playing my maxed out stuff , other times I want to start over , adventure is perfect because it's separate from the main progress (while still having things like arcana which you can turn off if you choose).

[Moonbane]

Eggfarming fundamentally needs to be redesigned, as its too easy to farm up enough gold for enough eggs to put the balance completely in the sewers.

A cap on like 100 eggs per character, each egg costing like 1 million gold. Making it actually worth to kill the eggdropping mobs.

Monster scaling past 30m should be way more difficult to survive. If you get infinite corridor/Crimson Shroud to survive, it should incur a HEAVY gold penalty.

[Amars95]

Origineel geplaatst door Moonbane:

Eggfarming fundamentally needs to be redesigned, as its too easy to farm up enough gold for enough eggs to put the balance completely in the sewers.

A cap on like 100 eggs per character, each egg costing like 1 million gold. Making it actually worth to kill the eggdropping mobs.

Monster scaling past 30m should be way more difficult to survive. If you get infinite corridor/Crimson Shroud to survive, it should incur a HEAVY gold penalty.

Eggs are meant to just be extra, the game isn't balanced around having them except for when they are removed during a few important sequences. The devs have also explicitly said you will not be required to have golden eggs to make progress in the game, they are just extra collectibles for the people that want them.

[Toadragon]

Adventure mode has given the illusion of starting from the beginning, but after the first pass it's the same, only faster. To whom it is fun to spin in a circle have fun.
But I like the beginning when you see everything for the first time and you struggle to be stronger but not to do the same thing every time.

And some characters can't use eggs.

Does anyone know what monster is 191 and where ?

[Amars95]

Origineel geplaatst door Toadragon:

Adventure mode has given the illusion of starting from the beginning, but after the first pass it's the same, only faster. To whom it is fun to spin in a circle have fun.
But I like the beginning when you see everything for the first time and you struggle to be stronger but not to do the same thing every time.

And some characters can't use eggs.

Does anyone know what monster is 191 and where ?

191 is currently bugged, but it's fixed on the public beta and soon that update will be on the live version too.

[Zephyr]

As I tend to say when people brings balance into this game: "When everything is broken, nothing is broken".

I do like the format of the adventures because I get to use builds I usually would never use in others circumstances. You get nice surprises out of that sometimes. Although I admit I tend to go at them with a battle plan in mind now that I know their structure a bit and what unlocks and when in term of weapons/passives. Keeps the game fresh to me and something to strive for when I'm not trying to finish every map with every character just for the hell of it.