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Newburn Jan 19, 2023 @ 5:36pm
Where is the bottom of Gallo Tower?
Where is the bottom of Gallo Tower? Except for maybe 10 minutes at the beginning building up the character to be able to plow through the mobs I've been holding the S key down for 30 some minutes. I'm starting to feel like I've been rick rolled :P I'm using the Abe Lincoln looking character that drops furniture :D
I have a couple screenshots here: pics[www.flickr.com]
Last edited by Newburn; Jan 19, 2023 @ 6:37pm
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Xaelon Jan 19, 2023 @ 7:35pm 
The tower extends forever. The secret you're looking for should appear shortly after it goes completely dark and the music changes. It is possible to miss the boss you're supposed to kill so you may want to start over and walk a little slower once you hit darkness.

Alternatively you can wait until you have the Scrolls of Morbane and just use a cheat code for this unlock instead.
Newburn Jan 19, 2023 @ 7:40pm 
Thanks for the info. I guess I passed it.
Originally posted by Newburn:
Thanks for the info. I guess I passed it.

You need to start moving slowly omce it gets dark, as in you can only see in a small circular field of view around you. Walk a few steps, stop then look all around that small viewable area then move after a few seconds. You can't miss the secret, if you do this as he walks around too slowly and is a giant ball of stuff.
Newburn Jan 19, 2023 @ 8:41pm 
Got him. Thanks! No wonder I missed him.. twice.
Maverick Jan 19, 2023 @ 9:42pm 
I'm sorry, I know this probably sounds mean, but I'm honestly stunned you somehow missed runes turning into words, the music stopping entirely, the screen going pitch black.....

Like, you're braver than most if your reaction to seeing an ENDLESS SPAN OF VOID encroaching on you is to sprint deeper. Most people's reaction is to freeze a second and go "Wait did the music stop" and by then The Flying Meatball Monster, Spouse to the flying spaget monster is upon you.

Doesn't He/She (I can't tell) fire projectiles too? Then again projectiles in this game are a non-issue because so many things destroy them so I really can't remember. I've rarely had a run where I don't have some sort of anti-projectile field just by random chance. :zaglol:
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Newburn Jan 20, 2023 @ 11:47am 
You're right. It does sound mean. But hey, that's the internet for you. Unfortunately anonymity brings out the lack of consideration in people. What surprises me is that you are "stunned" that it took me a couple runs.. especially while after searching for clues I found others had the same problem.
* Runes turning into words? I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't recall any runes and I don't recall any words.
* The music stopping? Yea that probably would have been a clue but I had turned off music long ago. Even after I turned it on it wasn't a 'you have arrived' moment. It turned out to be a 'you are close' moment. It still took going down further and tedious searching.. not sure how far.
* The screen going pitch black? Nope, it didn't. Actually that is what I was expecting to happen. Unlike other levels where the screen in fact did turn pitch black and my character was in the middle of nothing, this level did not turn pitch black. It gradually grew too dark to see much further than my character but at a point it didn't get any darker. No 'ah ha' clue. It was an endless screen of chaos from long before it got dark and never let up. The screen was just a solid mass of flashing damage numbers in the dark, tumbling grand pianos, coffins, tables, axes, and all the other effects. I couldn't even tell what kind of monster waves I was plowing through.
* "and then it's upon you"? No, it was never upon me. I was exploring by tapping and then waiting a second before tapping again (thanks to a helpful comment). And when I did manage to come across it (after considerable searching. I had to be within an inch of it) it was practically stationary. It moved like a slug when it did move. At the end of the day it came down to "head down until the music stops and then start slowly inching around an unknown area of darkness looking for a specific 1 inch spot somewhere."
* You said it yourself, "most people's reaction is to..." So, not everyone. That would be crazy if I was the only human who had trouble finding that monster. But then again, so what if I was. It wouldn't really matter to me. It's odd that it mattered to you. But thank you for your time and comment I guess.
Last edited by Newburn; Jan 20, 2023 @ 11:50am
Draconic Creature Jan 20, 2023 @ 1:56pm 
Originally posted by Newburn:
You're right. It does sound mean. But hey, that's the internet for you. Unfortunately anonymity brings out the lack of consideration in people. What surprises me is that you are "stunned" that it took me a couple runs.. especially while after searching for clues I found others had the same problem.
* Runes turning into words? I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't recall any runes and I don't recall any words.
* The music stopping? Yea that probably would have been a clue but I had turned off music long ago. Even after I turned it on it wasn't a 'you have arrived' moment. It turned out to be a 'you are close' moment. It still took going down further and tedious searching.. not sure how far.
* The screen going pitch black? Nope, it didn't. Actually that is what I was expecting to happen. Unlike other levels where the screen in fact did turn pitch black and my character was in the middle of nothing, this level did not turn pitch black. It gradually grew too dark to see much further than my character but at a point it didn't get any darker. No 'ah ha' clue. It was an endless screen of chaos from long before it got dark and never let up. The screen was just a solid mass of flashing damage numbers in the dark, tumbling grand pianos, coffins, tables, axes, and all the other effects. I couldn't even tell what kind of monster waves I was plowing through.
* "and then it's upon you"? No, it was never upon me. I was exploring by tapping and then waiting a second before tapping again (thanks to a helpful comment). And when I did manage to come across it (after considerable searching. I had to be within an inch of it) it was practically stationary. It moved like a slug when it did move. At the end of the day it came down to "head down until the music stops and then start slowly inching around an unknown area of darkness looking for a specific 1 inch spot somewhere."
* You said it yourself, "most people's reaction is to..." So, not everyone. That would be crazy if I was the only human who had trouble finding that monster. But then again, so what if I was. It wouldn't really matter to me. It's odd that it mattered to you. But thank you for your time and comment I guess.
You don't need to find a specific spot down there to unlock the character, you just need to basically get down there enough to spawn them, once they're spawned all you need to do is kill them, and given how long it takes to go down there in the first place, chances are you should have a build that should make it pretty safe to just wait around until they die.

When the secret enemy dies, the darkness surrounding your character clears up, iirc, so that's a pretty solid tell.
CyanDoomdragon Jan 20, 2023 @ 3:13pm 
Originally posted by Newburn:
* Runes turning into words? I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't recall any runes and I don't recall any words.
Outside of the tower in the background you can see red runes floating upwards, when you're down far enough the turn into English letters. (Left side of picture, just under weapons/items.)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2920398789
Originally posted by Newburn:
* The screen going pitch black? Nope, it didn't. Actually that is what I was expecting to happen. Unlike other levels where the screen in fact did turn pitch black and my character was in the middle of nothing, this level did not turn pitch black. It gradually grew too dark to see much further than my character but at a point it didn't get any darker. No 'ah ha' clue. It was an endless screen of chaos from long before it got dark and never let up. The screen was just a solid mass of flashing damage numbers in the dark, tumbling grand pianos, coffins, tables, axes, and all the other effects. I couldn't even tell what kind of monster waves I was plowing through.
I would think this counts as pitch black, wouldn't you?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2790174894
Last edited by CyanDoomdragon; Jan 20, 2023 @ 3:18pm
Technically, pitch black would mean the little "field of view" lighted area would also disappear because pitch black would mean you can't see even right in front of you, but because you CAN still see right in front, and even around, you this isn't exactly pitch black.
Last edited by Cahos Rahne Veloza; Jan 20, 2023 @ 4:25pm
Big Gas Kitty Jan 20, 2023 @ 7:03pm 
What you are looking for is really not that far down. Walk, do not run or you can pass it. As others have said, the screen goes mostly dark with a radius of light. Once you have completed the task, the darkness will lift (and you can exit out of the run to claim your prize).

Free tip without giving away anything (hopefully). Your reward for finding this secret is VERY useful for completing another secret (possibly difficult) task when paired with a certain arcana card.
Burnin' Hay Bale Jan 20, 2023 @ 7:21pm 
While you guys are at this, I wanna share this bizarre thing that happened. On my first, failed attempt at finding the secret boss, I went down very deep, expecting an actual bottom. In the pitch black, total absence of music, about 5 minutes to the end, I thought I heard something weird, amidst the chaos of the weapons firing.
As i fumbled my way around, looking for something, I think i stumbled upon a hidden passage heading west, I walked a bit in true darkness, even the floor was pitch black, until i stepped into a tower... again.
The enemies had stopped spawning by then, so, completely clueless and confused, I just went north until the light came around again, and I actually reached the merchant but it was to my righto on the map and completely unreachable.
After i managed to find the boss and defeat them, i attempted to find this spot again, but without success.
Just tossing this out there, in case someone feels like exploring
Martoon Jan 26, 2023 @ 2:11pm 
Originally posted by Cypher:
I'm sorry, I know this probably sounds mean, but I'm honestly stunned you somehow missed runes turning into words, the music stopping entirely, the screen going pitch black.....

Like, you're braver than most if your reaction to seeing an ENDLESS SPAN OF VOID encroaching on you is to sprint deeper. Most people's reaction is to freeze a second and go "Wait did the music stop" and by then The Flying Meatball Monster, Spouse to the flying spaget monster is upon you.

Well, then you'll be over-stunned to hear that I went down there about 4 times, heard the music stop, saw everything go dark, and eventually even noticed the flying runes turning into words, and just kept running every time. My reaction wasn't to stop, because I was completely OP by then, and I was less concerned with getting suddenly killed and more concerned with getting to whatever it was I was supposed to reach. The silence and blackness just made me think I must be getting closer, which was all the more reason to keep going. And with something as dramatic as the music stopping and everything going dark, the last thing to occur to me was that the object of my search was something I could safely and easily just run right past without even noticing.
Mountain Months Mar 21, 2023 @ 9:25pm 
just want to clear this up because it's further than I thought and people keep giving vastly different distances. for me using red death on hurry mode the timer showed about 13:00 by the time the music stopped and everything went dark. the boss was a couple screens south in the middle
Cahos Rahne Veloza Mar 21, 2023 @ 10:09pm 
Originally posted by Mountain Months:
just want to clear this up because it's further than I thought and people keep giving vastly different distances. for me using red death on hurry mode the timer showed about 13:00 by the time the music stopped and everything went dark. the boss was a couple screens south in the middle

Times will ALWAYS vary because every character has different movement speeds with Red Death being the fastest. Also you mentioned you were playing with "Hurry Mode" enabled, so that 13 minutes you mentioned is actually 25 to 26 minutes without "Hurry Mode" enable, which is inline with the "usual" time frame it takes for you to get to where Leda hangs out.
properfalse Mar 31, 2023 @ 6:22pm 
I spent HOURS trying to find Leda before finally giving up for the sake of my sanity, so let me vent for a second.

On my first run I flew right past because I expected something unmissable. I figured the darkness meant I was close, and then I spent a long, stupid while just flying around the map and in and out of that secret room with the mirror, thinking I must be missing something or that something was glitched. (Which it was, since I was clipping in and out of the map, not discovering cool intentional secrets.)

Second run I looked up what to do. Stop when the music changes? Okay, sure, I put the music on blast and paused every time the tempo changed. Once the music finally stopped I wasn't sure exactly when it had stopped, between all the explosion sounds, and I couldn't get it to start again when I doubled back, so I could no longer use music as a cue.

Stop when the screen goes completely black? I can barely tell the difference between the tower being "completely dark" and "mostly dark" on my Deck, but I finally figured it out. I think. Sure, the fine details of the rest of the screen mostly disappear, but all that means is that I spend even more time accidentally clipping through the walls and out of the map. I was expecting true blackness, like you get in other fights, but nope. If I stumble into true blackness it's because I'm off the map again.

Stop when the runes turn to words? I can't see the runes most of the time unless I fling myself off the map and peer around. But sure, I finally found roughly where that change happened, and then spent 45 increasingly insanity-inducing moments inching around my screen, back and forth, over and over, slowly working my way down and then back up, seeing absolutely no sign of anything other than infinite waves of monsters. I went back and forth over the entire section where it changes from mostly dark with runes to completely dark with words OVER AND OVER AND OVER, going further down and then back up in case I'd missed the secret magic window, seeing absolutely nothing except infinite OP explosions and the occasional hint of normal enemies before I vaporized them.

I kept thinking that surely I'd find and kill Leda just by accident, but... no.

So I give up. It's absolutely bonkers that this could possibly be so difficult, and I can't believe I wasted so much time on it, and okay, venting over, thank you for your time and also ARGH.
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