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What does "loses control" mean on Avatar Infernas?
In the character select screen, the description of Avatar says "(...) but also loses control". What is that supposed to mean? At first I thought it means that at some point, the character will start moving on his own or something but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Or do they just mean, that he gets so powerful it becomes hard to keep track of what's happening?
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ThatGuyCDude Nov 4, 2022 @ 7:42pm 
I'm not sure, but I think it has to do with the move speed. Infernas gets faster every level, and you will reach a point where you cannot move accurately onto chests or away from enemies (too fast for precise movement). There's also a movement speed break at some point (what value I'm not actually sure) where the character is rendered unable to move at all. I don't think there's any other mechanic attached to it, though, like a berserk auto-move mode or something.
Dust D. Reaper Nov 4, 2022 @ 9:25pm 
It could also reference him getting more curse each level, reaching a point where enemies could become neigh unkillable from the bonus stats
Belgarion Nov 4, 2022 @ 9:37pm 
If it's in relation to move speed, its a really really bad "feature". Especially since the entire endgame hinges on getting eggs, and then the game punishes you for playing it. I imagine being a small indie team, they don't have a quality assurance department to pick up on the dev's incompetence on things like the move speed being so fast that they can't pick up chests.
Originally posted by Belgarion:
If it's in relation to move speed, its a really really bad "feature". Especially since the entire endgame hinges on getting eggs, and then the game punishes you for playing it. I imagine being a small indie team, they don't have a quality assurance department to pick up on the dev's incompetence on things like the move speed being so fast that they can't pick up chests.

The Dev Team is just one guy, the rest of his staff only handle visual stuff like new character skins and such.
Belgarion Nov 5, 2022 @ 5:45pm 
I wonder if its a design choice for the dev to be like 'ok i am deciding that they played my game enough, time to stop their gameplay.' or if it's more like 'I'm not skilled enough to implement a cap on speed.'
Combine00 Nov 5, 2022 @ 9:06pm 
Originally posted by Belgarion:
I wonder if its a design choice for the dev to be like 'ok i am deciding that they played my game enough, time to stop their gameplay.' or if it's more like 'I'm not skilled enough to implement a cap on speed.'
might, area, projectile speed, duration, amount and cooldown have caps so i dont see why they wouldnt be able to/capable of implementing a speed cap
Forblaze Nov 6, 2022 @ 6:16am 
Originally posted by Belgarion:
I wonder if its a design choice for the dev to be like 'ok i am deciding that they played my game enough, time to stop their gameplay.' or if it's more like 'I'm not skilled enough to implement a cap on speed.'

I think it's more likely he thought "hey this would be a fun or interesting idea" and then implemented it the way he intended to, because he thought it would be fun or interesting.
davidb11 Nov 7, 2022 @ 8:36am 
Yeah, It was about fun. Not being mean to the players. LOL.
Moonbane Nov 7, 2022 @ 11:32am 
Not all of the characters is created equally, some of them are decided challenge characters.
Jaeus Nov 7, 2022 @ 10:13pm 
Originally posted by Belgarion:
I wonder if its a design choice for the dev to be like 'ok i am deciding that they played my game enough, time to stop their gameplay.' or if it's more like 'I'm not skilled enough to implement a cap on speed.'
I was going to defend not doing so but yeah, a cap of 150%ish on player speed wouldn't be unreasonable, nor do I think it would present any challenges to throttle it.

Obviously in the context of this character, it's SUPPOSED to be annoying, that's the gimmick.
If you don't find it fun, that's fine. Some people don't find having 1 HP fun either, Toastie would not be for those characters. Some people don't find Queen Sigma fun because she is just that OP, that's fine too. :)
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Date Posted: Nov 4, 2022 @ 6:59pm
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