Why do you suddenly only get money?

[Monte]

I have played for a good few hours, but haven't worked out why you just start only getting money from chests and level ups, even if you still have items that can be upgraded. Can someone explain?

[JustFreezer]

For chests, some can only drop main weapons (first row, the ones that deal damage unlike those on the second) and they won't upgrade any of your passives. I don't have the list of every boss chest that can only offer a main weapon upgrade, but I believe they are on the uncommon side (and mostly seen on Moongallow). If you pick one of those chest with all your main weapons maxed out, it'll only give you money bags.

While leveling up, it might be a bug ? There used to be some circumstances which would make the level up only offer you chicken or a money bag, but they were patched out and I can't think of an instance where that would naturally happen. If you can replicate and record it, it'll be fixed eventually. I hope this helps !

[Jamrolypoly]

Originally posted by JustFreezer:

For chests, some can only drop main weapons (first row, the ones that deal damage unlike those on the second) and they won't upgrade any of your passives. I don't have the list of every boss chest that can only offer a main weapon upgrade, but I believe they are on the uncommon side (and mostly seen on Moongallow). If you pick one of those chest with all your main weapons maxed out, it'll only give you money bags.

While leveling up, it might be a bug ? There used to be some circumstances which would make the level up only offer you chicken or a money bag, but they were patched out and I can't think of an instance where that would naturally happen. If you can replicate and record it, it'll be fixed eventually. I hope this helps !

My guess is that he probably only use one weapon and had it maxed to Lv8. When he took the chest, its probably a weapon chest for a slot that isn't active so instead he only gets a gold bag. That's likely the case. I've done a lot of single weapon runs and its a very common case.

[Monte]

Originally posted by Jamrolypoly:

Originally posted by JustFreezer:

For chests, some can only drop main weapons (first row, the ones that deal damage unlike those on the second) and they won't upgrade any of your passives. I don't have the list of every boss chest that can only offer a main weapon upgrade, but I believe they are on the uncommon side (and mostly seen on Moongallow). If you pick one of those chest with all your main weapons maxed out, it'll only give you money bags.

While leveling up, it might be a bug ? There used to be some circumstances which would make the level up only offer you chicken or a money bag, but they were patched out and I can't think of an instance where that would naturally happen. If you can replicate and record it, it'll be fixed eventually. I hope this helps !

My guess is that he probably only use one weapon and had it maxed to Lv8. When he took the chest, its probably a weapon chest for a slot that isn't active so instead he only gets a gold bag. That's likely the case. I've done a lot of single weapon runs and its a very common case.

That makes sense! Thank you, I didn't realise chests worked like that, and it makes me a lot less frustrated from the single weapon runs I have done knowing I wasn't experiencing a bug... Instead I just feel very stupid, in hindsight

[Aigle1705]

well would be interesting which weapons OP is talking about.
vandalier for example is bugged when limit break is aktive. the weapon gets a 100% ignored.
there for smith is a realy bad pick now adays :S

[Thundercracker]

Originally posted by JustFreezer:

For chests, some can only drop main weapons (first row, the ones that deal damage unlike those on the second) and they won't upgrade any of your passives. I don't have the list of every boss chest that can only offer a main weapon upgrade, but I believe they are on the uncommon side (and mostly seen on Moongallow). If you pick one of those chest with all your main weapons maxed out, it'll only give you money bags.

While leveling up, it might be a bug ? There used to be some circumstances which would make the level up only offer you chicken or a money bag, but they were patched out and I can't think of an instance where that would naturally happen. If you can replicate and record it, it'll be fixed eventually. I hope this helps !

"weapon chests" need to graphically look different from normal chests.

[Draco18s]

For level ups, it only happens when there are literally no more upgrades to get (and don't have limit break active).

[Monte]

Originally posted by Terrorsaur:

Originally posted by JustFreezer:

For chests, some can only drop main weapons (first row, the ones that deal damage unlike those on the second) and they won't upgrade any of your passives. I don't have the list of every boss chest that can only offer a main weapon upgrade, but I believe they are on the uncommon side (and mostly seen on Moongallow). If you pick one of those chest with all your main weapons maxed out, it'll only give you money bags.

While leveling up, it might be a bug ? There used to be some circumstances which would make the level up only offer you chicken or a money bag, but they were patched out and I can't think of an instance where that would naturally happen. If you can replicate and record it, it'll be fixed eventually. I hope this helps !

"weapon chests" need to graphically look different from normal chests.

It would help, yeah - then I would know when to save and hover around certain chests to evolve a weapon, or to collect it for better passive item levels.

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It would be nice if chest money bags were replaced with limit break upgrades if you have LB enabled.

[Gr3atsaga]

I'm very confused by this thread. There isn't any difference in the chests - EXCEPT for the two that give you an arcana if you have them active.

1) The upgrades you get from a chest is purely random. And they are not specifically for a slot. Not sure where you got that idea. Although, granted I feel like sometimes there are some items that chests make a priority. Like Stone Mask. I swear the game loves to give me levels for Stone Mask over anything else.
2) Most stages can only give you weapon evolutions or unions in chests that spawn after minute 10 and you must have the passive required for the evolution as well as have the weapon at max level. However two weapons, Laurel and Shield Lancet, require their passives to be completely leveled as well. Some stages (or a secret character) can give you an evolution or union from any chests prior to minute 10.
3) Chests will not give you upgrades for items that have been banished. When I first started using the banish feature I got confused on Mad Forest because 3 of the passives on the map I had picked up weren't getting upgraded. I had banished them thinking it would only take them out of the level-up pool.
4) You can only get one evolution or union per chest, and you cannot get an evolution or union from the same chest that gives you the last levels of a weapon. I think there might be one or two exceptions, not sure.
5) Once all the un-banished items have been upgraded and you don't have any other weapons that can evolve or be united you start to get money bags.
6) Single-weapon runs should not make any difference. You either get level-ups for your one weapon or any of your passives.

[Chuck]

Originally posted by Gr3atsaga:

I'm very confused by this thread. There isn't any difference in the chests - EXCEPT for the two that give you an arcana if you have them active.

1) The upgrades you get from a chest is purely random. And they are not specifically for a slot. Not sure where you got that idea. Although, granted I feel like sometimes there are some items that chests make a priority. Like Stone Mask. I swear the game loves to give me levels for Stone Mask over anything else.
2) Most stages can only give you weapon evolutions or unions in chests that spawn after minute 10 and you must have the passive required for the evolution as well as have the weapon at max level. However two weapons, Laurel and Shield Lancet, require their passives to be completely leveled as well. Some stages (or a secret character) can give you an evolution or union from any chests prior to minute 10.
3) Chests will not give you upgrades for items that have been banished. When I first started using the banish feature I got confused on Mad Forest because 3 of the passives on the map I had picked up weren't getting upgraded. I had banished them thinking it would only take them out of the level-up pool.
4) You can only get one evolution or union per chest, and you cannot get an evolution or union from the same chest that gives you the last levels of a weapon. I think there might be one or two exceptions, not sure.
5) Once all the un-banished items have been upgraded and you don't have any other weapons that can evolve or be united you start to get money bags.
6) Single-weapon runs should not make any difference. You either get level-ups for your one weapon or any of your passives.

If what they say isn't true, it would have to be a bug, right? In the 50+ hours playing this game, I have NEVER had a chest give me only gold while I still had items to level, but since I started trying one weapon runs, I've had SEVERAL chests only give gold with multiple, unbanished passives still available to level up. Either what they say is actually correct, or there is a bug.

[Vexleigh]

Originally posted by Gr3atsaga:

1) The upgrades you get from a chest is purely random. And they are not specifically for a slot. Not sure where you got that idea. Although, granted I feel like sometimes there are some items that chests make a priority. Like Stone Mask. I swear the game loves to give me levels for Stone Mask over anything else.

I've had runs where I've only had the Rings and Metaglios left to level up, and still received money bags from a chest, so I think the existence of weapon-only chests is plausible.

Originally posted by Gr3atsaga:

4) You can only get one evolution or union per chest, and you cannot get an evolution or union from the same chest that gives you the last levels of a weapon. I think there might be one or two exceptions, not sure.

When I farmed Moongolow, I got 2 or even 3 weapons evolved by the same chest fairly frequently. It is kind of a rare exception, though, most chests will only evolve one weapon.

[Demented Mind]

it seem recently changed since last patch. Before, the chests always gave me weapon or passive upgrades, never gold unless I'm max out on everything!

[Monte]

Originally posted by Vexleigh:

Originally posted by Gr3atsaga:

1) The upgrades you get from a chest is purely random. And they are not specifically for a slot. Not sure where you got that idea. Although, granted I feel like sometimes there are some items that chests make a priority. Like Stone Mask. I swear the game loves to give me levels for Stone Mask over anything else.

I've had runs where I've only had the Rings and Metaglios left to level up, and still received money bags from a chest, so I think the existence of weapon-only chests is plausible.

Originally posted by Gr3atsaga:

4) You can only get one evolution or union per chest, and you cannot get an evolution or union from the same chest that gives you the last levels of a weapon. I think there might be one or two exceptions, not sure.

When I farmed Moongolow, I got 2 or even 3 weapons evolved by the same chest fairly frequently. It is kind of a rare exception, though, most chests will only evolve one weapon.

Yeah, I have since had the same sort of issue rarely when I have MANY passive items due to map pickups (e.g. rings).

[Gr3atsaga]

Originally posted by Chuck:

If what they say isn't true, it would have to be a bug, right?

If this is actually occurring then it would be a bug. Chests aren't specific to any item or slots. It's possible even that some new features like limit break cause the bug. In fact I think Vandalier is bugged and you can't get it out of chests when you have limit break on.

[Jamrolypoly]

Originally posted by Gr3atsaga:

If what they say isn't true, it would have to be a bug, right? In the 50+ hours playing this game, I have NEVER had a chest give me only gold while I still had items to level, but since I started trying one weapon runs, I've had SEVERAL chests only give gold with multiple, unbanished passives still available to level up. Either what they say is actually correct, or there is a bug.

Only limited weapon runs gave money chests early on. But only chests before 10 minute mark. And it usually only happen if you fullfill the weapon evolve condition (altho there is a chance that you would get the evolution) If nothing is ready to be evolved, only then you would get accessory or weapon upgrade. I'm not sure why, but that's been the case for limited weapon runs ever since its out. Whether its intended or a bug, idk.

But if you just run with 6 weapons, weirdly enough, pre 10 minute, having a ready-to evolve weapon guarantees the chest to be a weapon upgrade chest if its not an evolution. (I can't confirm it tho granted I only ever do like 110+ hours of run but its usually the case for me)