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SheepGravy Jul 10, 2022 @ 2:33pm
Does a unevolved Pentagram wipe chests from the screen?
Was on Boneyard at 10 minute mark. I had 2 chests off to the right of me about 10 - 15 seconds away that were my 5 and 8 minute mark chests.

10 minutes hits I see Green Death and Chest Skeleton. The cats made were filling screen with dust so I couldn't see well. Pentagram went off while I was in the dust storm so I moved off screen and back to look for the chest. There was nothing there. I spent until 11 minutes looking for it, (was not on map but the other 2 still were), and when 11 hit and the Skull with Arcana came out I was right next to it with unevolved guns, Pentagram went off and no chest again. Stopped the run at that point.

Did something happen or does Pentagram unevolved wipe chests also? I probably should know this by now but I just started adding Pentagram into my usual rotation of weapons.
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Swanky Jul 10, 2022 @ 2:34pm 
Yes, it can wipe chests. Best to upgrade early if you plan to go the route.
heidi Jul 10, 2022 @ 2:35pm 
Pentagram wipes everything except for stage-placed items (e.g. Stone Mask + Empty Tome in Inlaid Library).
SeekerHammerdin Jul 10, 2022 @ 2:51pm 
Pentagram has a chance to wipe stuff out, it does go down as you level, and I'm fairly sure the luck stat also helps determine the chances of it wiping stuff out.

I think when you max it and have high luck, it should rarely wipe anything.
SheepGravy Jul 10, 2022 @ 4:22pm 
Okay I guess I should have known this already. I think I will try to take it earlier so I can have it to level 8 before 10 minutes. Thank you everyone
nymersic Jul 10, 2022 @ 6:13pm 
Yeah, it's worth knowing that the % chance of keeping stuff as it levels up means the unleveled Pentagram has a 100% chance of wiping chests and chest bosses.
Honestly it's really the primary reason I think the Pentagram just isn't ever worth using, it can really frustrate early games... by the time it's good it's great, but plenty other weapons are great too.
TrashCataclysm Jul 10, 2022 @ 6:42pm 
Luck has some effect on the pentagrams wipe chance but its not worth banking on, don't buy the pentagram mid stage unless you want all your drops to vanish, or even upgrade it, if you buy a weapon upgrade it gets used immediately.

Gorgeous moon is really good if you build specifically for pentagram.
Last edited by TrashCataclysm; Jul 10, 2022 @ 6:44pm
SheepGravy Jul 10, 2022 @ 7:24pm 
I've hit level 350ish with moon. I actually just had my first 1 million+ gold run with Pug on Boneyard with 3k eggs and the guns, fire wand, cats, knife and electric ring all upgraded with the lancet and empty tome. Went super well. I might have hit more gold had I gotten cats first after guns. I took beginner and 3x bounce for the knives at 21 minutes.

Going to try this again tonight at work. Gonna keep dumping in Pug too for now.
Erin the Angry Jul 11, 2022 @ 4:35am 
My egged tree has something like 150 percent luck so I wonder if I egg the christ out of christine if I can limit her to 1 slot and get the penagram/moon to go off just about constantly. Just trying to work out how to get the first couple levels so it doesn't delete my gems... I'm thinking about maybe using the arcana that makes stuff and you explode when damaged and stacking it with armor and pummarola. I think only inlaid library has a free XP gem sitting in the open for one free level...
Qelris Jul 11, 2022 @ 5:30am 
Originally posted by Erin the Angry:
My egged tree has something like 150 percent luck so I wonder if I egg the christ out of christine if I can limit her to 1 slot and get the penagram/moon to go off just about constantly. Just trying to work out how to get the first couple levels so it doesn't delete my gems... I'm thinking about maybe using the arcana that makes stuff and you explode when damaged and stacking it with armor and pummarola. I think only inlaid library has a free XP gem sitting in the open for one free level...
I think I remember seeing that this weapon had a capped cd at 15s.
SheepGravy Jul 11, 2022 @ 5:46am 
Originally posted by Erin the Angry:
My egged tree has something like 150 percent luck so I wonder if I egg the christ out of christine if I can limit her to 1 slot and get the penagram/moon to go off just about constantly. Just trying to work out how to get the first couple levels so it doesn't delete my gems... I'm thinking about maybe using the arcana that makes stuff and you explode when damaged and stacking it with armor and pummarola. I think only inlaid library has a free XP gem sitting in the open for one free level...

I am intrigued by this. I am also having a pretzel for breakfast.
Thundercracker Jul 11, 2022 @ 12:06pm 
Originally posted by the pro90 rush :D:
Yeah, it's worth knowing that the % chance of keeping stuff as it levels up means the unleveled Pentagram has a 100% chance of wiping chests and chest bosses.
Honestly it's really the primary reason I think the Pentagram just isn't ever worth using, it can really frustrate early games... by the time it's good it's great, but plenty other weapons are great too.
unleveled is not 100% to wipe. probably 80-90%. i've had level 1 pentagram not wipe items every so often.
Nibbie Jul 11, 2022 @ 5:15pm 
Originally posted by Terrorsaur:
Originally posted by the pro90 rush :D:
Yeah, it's worth knowing that the % chance of keeping stuff as it levels up means the unleveled Pentagram has a 100% chance of wiping chests and chest bosses.
Honestly it's really the primary reason I think the Pentagram just isn't ever worth using, it can really frustrate early games... by the time it's good it's great, but plenty other weapons are great too.
unleveled is not 100% to wipe. probably 80-90%. i've had level 1 pentagram not wipe items every so often.

"Pentagram initially has a 10% chance to not destroy items, which is increased at levels 3, 5 and 7. This chance is affected by the character's Luck." -Thus sayeth the wiki, along with the actual math of how it works.
SheepGravy Jul 11, 2022 @ 5:18pm 
Originally posted by Nibbie:
Originally posted by Terrorsaur:
unleveled is not 100% to wipe. probably 80-90%. i've had level 1 pentagram not wipe items every so often.

"Pentagram initially has a 10% chance to not destroy items, which is increased at levels 3, 5 and 7. This chance is affected by the character's Luck." -Thus sayeth the wiki, along with the actual math of how it works.

So if I use it again then grab it second weapon asap and get it to 7 asap to try to prevent this from happening.
Dexcat Jul 11, 2022 @ 7:39pm 
Note that its evolution, Gorgeous Moon, never erases items.
Also worth noting is that Christine has a -30% cooldown modifier, so if you max out Blank Tome, Gorgeous Moon just CONSTANTLY goes off, murderizing pretty much anything.
SheepGravy Jul 11, 2022 @ 11:07pm 
Originally posted by Dexcat:
Note that its evolution, Gorgeous Moon, never erases items.
Also worth noting is that Christine has a -30% cooldown modifier, so if you max out Blank Tome, Gorgeous Moon just CONSTANTLY goes off, murderizing pretty much anything.

I might have to try this. Might be pretty fun lol. Is anyone using her to farm eggs at all?
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Date Posted: Jul 10, 2022 @ 2:33pm
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