Clock lancet is useless

[ArcGigor]

this item is bad. i have idea for evo with santa water when get lancet is erase and u can pick another weapon.

[Deadone]

Its kinda useful very late (~29min) to control the huge swarm around you, and absolutely essential if you don't want to get killed instantly by the reaper. I made it to 34:55 once thanks to the lancet.

[GrimnirLaguz]

Nah, it's pretty good CC. But that's understandable, people always just want the big ol' DPS. In some cases, the lancet is the only way to save yourself from getting stomped.

[ProfileName]

incorrect, it holds an entire line, with speed you completely stop stuff in its tracks allowing you to push i a certain direction

[AUSGrizzly]

4 Deaths frozen in time beg to differ about how useless the Clock Hand is...
Though I haven't really had a chance to repeat that amazing luck of late. Not sure what the build was anymore. But 2-3 Deaths are the norm now...

[ArcGigor]

Freezing is a nice option but for 99% of the game, Clock Lancet catches a few creatures so evo along with Santa Water is a good option.

[CoronaBunny]

Super useful.

AFAIK frozen enemies don't cause damage, even when you push trough them. When maxed, along with maxed Empty Tome, is extremely useful in keeping the end-hordes in the library at bay. Item that boosts duration I think also works with this.

Also. It is, again AFAIK, the single and only item that can (sometimes) hold Death at bay... if only for a little while, until it curb-stops you.

[dogtato]

It's one of the best items, but only useful later on, so ideally the last weapon you pick up. You can walk in a circle through a solid mass of enemies, following the freeze ray, and survive on horde forever. The only weakness is unfreezable enemies, and the fact that it does no damage.

[Jennik]

Publicado originalmente por GrinReaper69:

Nah, it's pretty good CC. But that's understandable, people always just want the big ol' DPS. In some cases, the lancet is the only way to save yourself from getting stomped.

If you didn't waste a weapon slot on this trash, you wouldn't be getting stomped in the first place. Why freeze things when a better weapon would kill them? The only real "use" for this is extending the end of the game against Death, which is a good indicator that it's worthless at the moment.

[GrimnirLaguz]

Publicado originalmente por Jennik:

Publicado originalmente por GrinReaper69:

Nah, it's pretty good CC. But that's understandable, people always just want the big ol' DPS. In some cases, the lancet is the only way to save yourself from getting stomped.

If you didn't waste a weapon slot on this trash, you wouldn't be getting stomped in the first place. Why freeze things when a better weapon would kill them? The only real "use" for this is extending the end of the game against Death, which is a good indicator that it's worthless at the moment.

Unless, that is exactly what you want to do. And no, I have done several very successful runs with just 2 other weapons alongside the Lancet and it works great.

As I said, there are people that just go "DPS GO BRRRR" and that's all they want. Sure, do that, it still doesn't mean the weapon is bad.

[Zebrion]

If you've done successful runs (up to Reaper(s)) then you didn't have just 2 other weapons - because level-ups will literally make you pick the rest of the weapon slots if there's nothing else left to level up from your current items.

As for the OP - I used to think the lancet was ok, but after doing several end end game runs (up to 2x Reaper several times) with my best run being just over 9k coins, I have concluded that it's unncessary. If you build correctly, you don't need it, even at endgame. You want to be clearing paths while abusing the bible pushback.

Really, once you get the bible and get a few levels in it, anything else is optional unless you're going to the very end of the game - then certain weapons become much less useful. The lancet is one of the less useful items unless you're doing the "stall the Reapers" thing just for funsies. Longest time I got to was 41:37 before one of them broke free and burned through my laurel shields.

[GrimnirLaguz]

Publicado originalmente por Zebrion:

If you've done successful runs (up to Reaper(s)) then you didn't have just 2 other weapons - because level-ups will literally make you pick the rest of the weapon slots if there's nothing else left to level up from your current items.

As for the OP - I used to think the lancet was ok, but after doing several end end game runs (up to 2x Reaper several times) with my best run being just over 9k coins, I have concluded that it's unncessary. If you build correctly, you don't need it, even at endgame. You want to be clearing paths while abusing the bible pushback.

Really, once you get the bible and get a few levels in it, anything else is optional unless you're going to the very end of the game - then certain weapons become much less useful. The lancet is one of the less useful items unless you're doing the "stall the Reapers" thing just for funsies. Longest time I got to was 41:37 before one of them broke free and burned through my laurel shields.

I have done a couple of runs where I end up with 3 weapons. The game does try to force you, but it is possible to not have full row of 5 weapons. No real benefit to that, I just didn't want pointless clutter on my screen. So, you are wrong on saying it is not possible to have lancet + 2 other weapons.

The rest, yeah, honestly, you don't even need the OP weapons, just whatever is fine, as long as your upgrades are doing fine and you don't sit in one spot. It was already stated multiple times that the lancet is not necessary for normal game runs. It doesn't make it useless, as the OP is stating. In that case, I could say that any weapon is useless as none of them are essential to finish a run.

Edit: that actually would make it the only weapon 100% needed to do "something", so by that logic, you could say that the Lancet is the best weapon in the game, lol.