Level 74, loot chests no longer give upgrades

[MIYUKI]

Hi, so I was playing last night and at around level 74 or so the loot chests started only giving either +25 gold, or a Floor Meat.

This meant that I was ofc unable to keep up with progression of enemy strength, and finally as the entire screen was filled with monsters I finally fell.

This game is stupidly fun!! But it would be nice if we at least had a glimmer of hope to progress longer, rather than assured death due to turning off the slowdrip of pups.

[Jurikeh]

Were all of your items fully upgraded? The "evolution's" have requirements in order for them to be available. So if you have nothing left to upgrade and no evolution available then chest will only give gold and level ups will give options for 25 gold or +30 hp heal. Havent run into any situations where I had upgrades available but didnt get them on level up or chest.
Whip: Whip + Hollow Heart
Magic Wand: Magic Wand + Empty Tome
Knife: Knife + Bracer
Axe: Axe + Candlabrador
Cross: Cross + Clover
King Bible: King Bible + Spellbinder
Fire Wand: Fire Wand + Spinach
Garlic: Garlic + Pummerolla

[callingallhelpless]

It isn't on the enemies, I finished the game in both normal and hyper modes. It's the optimization of your builds. If you lose with a full set of upgrades, it's your poor optimization as opposed to the enemies becoming too strong.

[KeeleTasume]

I had this happen only one time. About 2 of my items were not fully upgraded, in fact 1 of them only had the original upgrade of it. Not something that is super common.

[Koralix]

At around level 74 it's likely that all of your weapons and support items where already fully upgraded. Once you are fully upgraded, you are given the choice to either a health increase or 25 gold. Or if you get a loot chest from a special entity, you just get the amount of gold from within the chest.

[Raelic]

It's happened to me once where I had items that weren't fully upgraded. I don't know what caused it.

[Koralix]

Originally posted by Raelic:

It's happened to me once where I had items that weren't fully upgraded. I don't know what caused it.

Admittedly, it did happen to me today as well while levelling garlic. I was a super low level but had my garlic levelled up quite a lot already so maybe there is a limit to how much you can level up your weapons before it's capped depending on your level. Not sure.

[Dan_The_Noob]

the only item i know that doesn't upgrade to max if it's left until last is the mask... the mask for some reason just stops appearing once everything else is max and you get money/food option

[Seftak]

Originally posted by Dan_The_Noob™:

the only item i know that doesn't upgrade to max if it's left until last is the mask... the mask for some reason just stops appearing once everything else is max and you get money/food option

Because the mask is not "part" of your build if you get it as a supplementary item once you already have all your items.

Originally posted by Xin9:

Admittedly, it did happen to me today as well while levelling garlic. I was a super low level but had my garlic levelled up quite a lot already so maybe there is a limit to how much you can level up your weapons before it's capped depending on your level. Not sure.

Yes, items have a max level, you can see it when you level up and can see the list of item you have in the top left corner.

Originally posted by Xin9:

At around level 74 it's likely that all of your weapons and support items where already fully upgraded. Once you are fully upgraded, you are given the choice to either a health increase or 25 gold. Or if you get a loot chest from a special entity, you just get the amount of gold from within the chest.

To be more precise, it is a heal, not a health increase.

[Koralix]

Originally posted by Seftak:

Originally posted by Dan_The_Noob™:

the only item i know that doesn't upgrade to max if it's left until last is the mask... the mask for some reason just stops appearing once everything else is max and you get money/food option

Because the mask is not "part" of your build if you get it as a supplementary item once you already have all your items.

Originally posted by Xin9:

Admittedly, it did happen to me today as well while levelling garlic. I was a super low level but had my garlic levelled up quite a lot already so maybe there is a limit to how much you can level up your weapons before it's capped depending on your level. Not sure.

Yes, items have a max level, you can see it when you level up and can see the list of item you have in the top left corner.

Originally posted by Xin9:

At around level 74 it's likely that all of your weapons and support items where already fully upgraded. Once you are fully upgraded, you are given the choice to either a health increase or 25 gold. Or if you get a loot chest from a special entity, you just get the amount of gold from within the chest.

To be more precise, it is a heal, not a health increase.

Thankfully, you knew what I meant!

[Zaelle]

There is a global cap on the amount of items you get normally (with some exceptions based on niche circumstances, such as evolving the birds and gaining an extra slot, etc.)and if you happen to take items and do not have their corresponding item as well needed to evolve them, you can run into situations where you continually get only gold or chicken.

My first ever run earlier on when I did really well, I had no idea the items needed other items to evolve. So, here I was sitting there with tons of maxed items and mad that none would evolve. Kept getting endless streams of chicken or gold from chests and level ups. It felt very frustrating but only because I didn't know how the evolve mechanic worked.

I believe there should be some kind of tip in the game (if there is, correct me) that at least says "Some items can evolve if paired with another specific item." No details of what works, just a note that it is a thing so you're not in the middle of a great run and just thinking the game is broken or something like that.

[Raelic]

Originally posted by Zaelle:

There is a global cap on the amount of items you get normally (with some exceptions based on niche circumstances, such as evolving the birds and gaining an extra slot, etc.)and if you happen to take items and do not have their corresponding item as well needed to evolve them, you can run into situations where you continually get only gold or chicken.

My first ever run earlier on when I did really well, I had no idea the items needed other items to evolve. So, here I was sitting there with tons of maxed items and mad that none would evolve. Kept getting endless streams of chicken or gold from chests and level ups. It felt very frustrating but only because I didn't know how the evolve mechanic worked.

I believe there should be some kind of tip in the game (if there is, correct me) that at least says "Some items can evolve if paired with another specific item." No details of what works, just a note that it is a thing so you're not in the middle of a great run and just thinking the game is broken or something like that.

I don't agree with the premise of a global cap and that is what's happening. The collections tab will tell you what item is needed to evolve and that can likely tip players off to look for more if not to go check a guide.

[Seftak]

Why are people mad at getting gold? That's the hole point of each run, to get as much gold as you can......

In my last ALMOST successful run, dies at about 28 minutes, i got probably 25 money bags level up. I was very happy to get those since they are 25 gold each.

[Raelic]

Originally posted by Seftak:

Why are people mad at getting gold? That's the hole point of each run, to get as much gold as you can......

In my last ALMOST successful run, dies at about 28 minutes, i got probably 25 money bags level up. I was very happy to get those since they are 25 gold each.

No one is mad. We're just making observations. Most gold doesn't even come from the bags. It comes from chests.

[Seftak]

Oh and by the way, you can upgrade the mask to max level even if you take it as an additional item, you just have to not max out your other items first.

[Seftak]

Originally posted by Raelic:

Originally posted by Seftak:

Why are people mad at getting gold? That's the hole point of each run, to get as much gold as you can......

In my last ALMOST successful run, dies at about 28 minutes, i got probably 25 money bags level up. I was very happy to get those since they are 25 gold each.

No one is mad. We're just making observations. Most gold doesn't even come from the bags. It comes from chests.

You won't get much chest in the last 2 or 3 minutes, you only get endless waves of enemies. And the 250 gold money bags from light source tell me otherwise.