Why do people say that the Runetracer is the best weapon?

[que]

I managed to get to minute 30 in my first game at Green Acres in Hyper and with the character Antonio Belpaese. The thing is that it was literally thanks to a certain weapon, and I don't mean the Runetracer. With the Runetracer I have done 2.3M damage with a DPS of 1.4k, while with the Vandalier (the combination of the Peachone and Ebony Wings) I have done 6.1M damage with a DPS of 24.6k.

That weapon is just sick. Why is everyone saying that the Runetracer or the Cross are the best weapons when that one is unbelievably superior? I don't even have the maximum upgrades and I have reached that damage.

My build at the end of the game: https://ibb.co/P1wHph4

My upgrades (the ones that affect DPS): https://ibb.co/wsTWhWL

[Zelph]

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It's left over feelings from old patches. That's one of the downsides to patching so quickly. Not that it in anyway should discourage it.

But people that think Runetracer is good still are remember old patches.

You hit the nail there mate, times changed.

It's still solid, it absolutely crushes early game. But I never pick it anymore, nor should anyone else.
You generally used to have a slot for a non-upgradable weapon, and as far as those go, Runetracer was definite S-tier among weapons without an Evolve.
But now you've got super good upgrades for all the must components (Duplicator, Suck Orb etc).
And even on heroes, on maps where cooldown tome might leave you with such a slot, with rerolls and skips now you can pretty consistently get Vandalier there now.

With all that said, I'm looking forward to see what the Evolved Runetracer will do!

Why shouldn't we pick it? It still pulls its weight and means we don't have to dedicate an equipment slot. Both of which are huge things. Personally, I don't like bird, its not at all hard to survive without them.

[Determination]

because it scales from everything,not need an evolve,good in both late and early game

[Raelic]

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It's left over feelings from old patches. That's one of the downsides to patching so quickly. Not that it in anyway should discourage it.

But people that think Runetracer is good still are remember old patches.

It's a very poor weapon right now. UNLESS you're camping in a box or using the exploit. Yea, the DPS is high, but it's on the other side of a bunch of monsters and not much help with maneuverability or keeping things away.

To be fair, I wouldn't call it a poor weapon. It is crucial for killing the Reaper. It is an A rank damage dealer. You can make kill boxes with it.

I agree that its not the GOAT that some people seem to believe it to be, but it's certainly no slouch. I would personally rate it with like an 8.5 out of 10.

Notepad is all that is required to kill the reaper. And both are cheating.

[Ooga]

I like runetracer when I'm doing a projectiles run. I'll use Cavallo, take rune tracer, bone, fire wand, bible and lightning ring with spinach/duplicator/spellbinder/candelabra/bracer/tome.
It creates so much visual noise.

[Ser Lagsolot]

It wipes the screen with max damage, area, cooldown, and count, all of which are useful for any build.

[Jalir]

Nobody says its the best weapon, they say it's the best weapon that doesn't evolve/need anything else to make it good. It just IS good.

[Coffee]

It's a good addition to your arsenal, just like almost all.

What makes a weapon good is mainly how and with what you combine it, upgraded or not.

[Ricwulf]

The problem is how you define "best weapon". The reality is that Runetracer is just really, really versatile. Duplicator, Empty tome, Spinach, Spell binder, Bracer all boost Runetracer. Even Candelabrador has a small effect. If a power-up effects a weapon, it effect Runetracer. By contrast, Vandalier gets lower returns on most upgrades by comparison due to how it functions.

Individually selecting a "best weapon" is silly anyway, because one sole weapon isn't enough. Runetracer can carry you to the late-game and give you the ability to get Vandalier. Coupled WITH Ebony Wings and Peachone, it gives you the versatility to better plan out the free slot you get available after you combine EW and Pea, and if you pick your power-ups with upgrades in mind, you get the potential of 1 of 3 choices over 1 of 2. Versatility. Runetracer isn't the best weapon, but it's very versatile, and that's its benefit. It not needing a power-up frees you up to get a power-up of your choice if you're not looking to get it's associated weapon (if it has one).

[Zunkin]

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To be fair, I wouldn't call it a poor weapon. It is crucial for killing the Reaper. It is an A rank damage dealer. You can make kill boxes with it.

I agree that its not the GOAT that some people seem to believe it to be, but it's certainly no slouch. I would personally rate it with like an 8.5 out of 10.

Notepad is all that is required to kill the reaper. And both are cheating.

No, altering the hardware or software that runs a game in order to break it in a beneficial manner or using 3rd party tools to do the same thing is cheating. In multiplayer the devs might extend that definition to bug abuse.

Killing the Reaper using normal in game tools that aren't even glitching is at worst an exploit and even that's a stretch since it is simply using the properly functioning tools the devs give you in a way they did not anticipate. There is a reason speed runners will abuse all sorts of exploits for their highscores, but the moment one gets caught actually hacking the game they will get flamed off the internet for the next 10 years. Cleverly exploiting game mechanics and hacking the game are two very different activities.

[Ame-kun]

vandalier takes 24 levels to get going. if it wasn't stronger than runetracer at maximum power it'd be completely worthless. It'd BETTER be that good considering the amount of investment required. (and it still requires bible or death spiral or etc to keep yourself safe.)

Now, with Curse, getting to that high a level without taking Crown or etc is a lot more feasible, I will grant that. So Vandalier's more useful than it used to be. But honestly, there's no reason not to take both Runetracer AND Vandalier, since, again, Runetracer scales on Everything and that includes Everything That Boosts Vandalier.

But to be honest, I think the real loser in this contest is Hellfire. Runetracer basically does what it does at Evolve from Level 1. It doesn't do as much Raw Damage, but they both have the same random type targeting, so using either for focus fire has never really been the point.

[Simoko]

Vandalier is strong because you need to take two weapon slots to get it and it gets another 7(?) upgrades after that. I once got 9.6 million damage with it.

Rune tracer is just an awesome all round weapon since it doesn't have an evolution.

[Tech Enthusiast]

Weapon DPS has to be taken with a grain of salt, since dozens of factors adjust it.
When did you get the weapon? When did you upgrade it? What support items did you get? Did other weapons help or hinder it?

As an example:
I have had games where Runetracer did 6k dps and Vandal did less than 5k. Usually Vand is not even in my setup, since there are so many better weapons for what I am doing in the game.

If you just want to beat the 30min timer, it really does not matter much tho. You can do that with every setup and as you progress with Upgrades, it gets even easier.

[Mrpnut08]

Rune tracer is a great weapon but really shines with accesories, I say its must trinket is Bracers

[Light_Shifty_Z]

People that are comparing vandalier to runetracer are idiots. Runetracer only has 8 levels, whilst vandalier levels up to level 16 (8 levels of both birds and then a further 8 levels). A more fair comparison would be one of the unevolved birds to level 8 to that of the ruentracer. Runetracer wins hands down.

[Jay Ren]

It's not been the /best/ weapon since before I started playing, but Runetracer is really solid, like, in terms of both general damage output for softening things up and increasing things killed it usually comes in 2nd/3rd, and it's in a rare position of having it's damage output buffed very directly by every passive that can do that.

Bone is in a very similar position, but requires very tightly packed living mobs to shine.

In most typical circumstances, I'd much rather have Rune Tracer then evolved Bible/wand/wand/knifes/whip/garlic/axe. Same goes for bone and cherry bombs, the current weapons that don't evolve scale really really well.