Stop Complaining about 70 dollars and here is why

[Vodka]

The average cost of an NES game released in 1990 was $50. That's $87 in today's money. Which means that in terms of inflation, games are cheaper now than they were almost 30 years ago. Meaning that we are getting Better quality now for way cheaper then what it should be.

[dtxv]

More like we are getting worse quality now for about the same price when adjusted for inflation

[Giganx]

Originally posted by dtxv:

More like we are getting worse quality now for about the same price when adjusted for inflation

Exactly. The original Super Mario Brothers had those super high res 8 bit graphics, a soundtrack involving up to 3 different notes and boasted a mind blowing 3 hours of gameplay.

No way Survivor can justify charging $17 less than Super Mario Brothers cost.

[Driltan]

NES games were not CD keys. You could resell your games. Why complaining about people complaining ? If you want to pay the price, nobody's preventing you to do so x)

[DefectiveByDesign]

Nintendo games were physical hardware with actual chips on them. StarFox for instance had it's own CPU/GPU to compute 3d. Plus you got a box and manual.

Second, heavy console gaming wasn't a thing for normal kids, you got a few games and played them. Usually only the most popular ones. Perhaps you even got the games used, or GASP RENTED THEM, because we had stores dedicated to this. People didn't have bookshelves full of games. That was after the kids grew up, became collectors, and bought them for $5 off ebay and used game stores.

Budget gamers also bought the GAMEBOY, because it was vastly cheaper. We then have Playstation to thank for cheaper games.

The real reason why games cost $70 now, is the backlash against lootboxes, and CEO's don't want to take a pay cut, despite not earning it with real work. You want cheaper games? Stop buying them day one full price, and they'll go back to $60.

NeoGeo had great games, but nobody bought it for the price. The market dictates what sells. So do that. Vote with your wallet. Prices will equalize.

Also, if the market votes 51% that $70 launch is acceptable, your correct option is to wait for a sale. What will most likely happen is $70 stays launch price to get the suckers, then the game will then go on sale FASTER than normal to get everyone else.

PC upgrade prices have also skyrocketed since Nvidia decided to price gouge the maximum for planned obsolescence hardware. If you can't afford the 4090, then you aren't going to be playing these new $70 games anyway with your 8GB VRAM previous gen hardware that has SEVERE issues playing new games. Mostly your own fault for not buying AMD, but hey. Don't worry about it. The games won't run on your hardware, no loss you don't buy them. The only people with legit complaints would be 16GB AMD users. RTX is unplayable on mid range anyway, so it's just hilarious people bought mid range Nvidia for that feature, instead of double VRAM AMD hardware, and now the optimization puts that same AMD hardware on par, which is even funnier.

[Andrew R]

If you are a PC gamer, you can simply wait.

If you are a console gamer you can:

*Rent it. I have a rental store I walk to that does 7.99 rentals for 5 nights.

*Get it at the library for FREE.

*Trade in some of your older titles for it. Cut the cost waaaaay down.

[Dark Exile]

actually with new technology, engines, no distribution costs, the cost of making games has gone down considerably while the amount of people purchasing games has gone up by millions.

You shouldn't really need to do the math on that to realise companies are making a killing and the only reason they jacked up the price is because Sony pulled that particular trigger when porting games to PC, so they all think they can do it.

[Andrew R]

I just found 70 dollars in my couch.

[Lorn Au Arcos-2070]

New games especially on PC only have about a 12 month period before they cut prices. There is a window of enthusiasm and excitement for new games. After the initial wave of sales in the first several months passes that's where they generate most of the revenue. Can't blame them. The marketing coincides with the launch. A game like this has a huge following with a house hold IP and luckily Elden Ring has put Souls like games in the main stream. That should help bolster these numbers

If you don't want to pay 70 you can wait for sale or just wait until next year.

Patience is a virtue that not all of us possess. Temperance my padawans... Temperance... Or sacrafice the extra 10 and dive in asap....
Dark yoda has lost his train of thought, I am very old. Who the ♥♥♥♥ wants to hear about virtues anyway. Apologies.

[DefectiveByDesign]

Originally posted by Lorn Au Arcos-2070:

New games especially on PC only have about a 12 month period before they cut prices. There is a window of enthusiasm and excitement for new games. After the initial wave of sales in the first several months passes that's where they generate most of the revenue. Can't blame them. The marketing coincides with the launch. A game like this has a huge following with a house hold IP and luckily Elden Ring has put Souls like games in the main stream. That should help bolster these numbers

If you don't want to pay 70 you can wait for sale or just wait until next year.

Patience is a virtue that not all of us possess. Temperance my padawans... Temperance... Or sacrafice the extra 10 and dive in asap....
Dark yoda has lost his train of thought, I am very old. Who the ♥♥♥♥ wants to hear about virtues anyway. Apologies.

I have an excess of patience due to my large library. I played most of my older games, pretty much all the good 90's-00 era PC games, up to dx10 titles, slowdown around dx11. Games in the dx12 era even less, especially with open world titles taking time from other games. Sales didn't help my collection habit, so I have a huge backlog. I end up wasting more time on PC hardware, the OS (now linux), and modding favorite classic games. So while I may have this game on my wish list, it ain't getting bought any time soon. IMO, people are better off downloading some mods for older games, since some mods are quality enough to be their own game. Not to mention new game releases usually mean the back catalog goes on sale, providing opportunity to buy some older titles cheap.

Regardless of the virtue of patience, my point about cost still stands. $70 being too expensive means having a video card capable of running it is too expensive. Therefore, it's physically impossible to play it anyway. Maybe people bought a 3070 not too long ago? Well too bad 8GB isn't enough, and you need the new 4000 series. Probably still making payments on that 3070 too. I saw that coming, since Nvidia's done this for years, but the steam survey shows most people still buy Nvidia. There's no legitimate reason to buy Nvidia, but people do. This phenomenon has been going on since the FX vs 9800 Pro, and I bought the 9800 Pro. The rare 3GB EVGA 580 was a good card, and the 10 series was okay, but mostly everything else was a scam that people didn't learn from. Even if people buy this game day one while complaining, it's going to have a refund spike from the 8GB Nvidia users. So ultimately there will be a full scale $70 "boycott" on PC, and maybe this will help free people from the nvidia cult, towards AMD or even Intel. This 8GB issue is real, and going to have massive consequences. People don't need to spam boycott $70 game threads, because the VRAM issue hits new games the worst, and it's going to naturally regulate itself. Prices will drop, and new hardware will be needed at reasonable prices as well. Don't worry about it, the correction is coming.

[Xenu]

Maybe it's always been too expensive to begin with how about that

[Morgan]

Originally posted by VodkaGirl19-TTV:

The average cost of an NES game released in 1990 was $50. . .,

NES games were cartridge based, that why they were so expensive. During the same era (8-bit) computer games were available for about £2-£3 on tape. Based on inflation, that means games should cost about £8 now. Isn't cherry picking examples brilliant.

[AbsynthMinded]

No one will complain about a 70$ AAA, that is worth 70$. THIS game is not worth 70$ and the pricing has nothing to do with inflation or what the market will bear. It's a cash grab because they know word of mouth will burn this game down as an exact clone of the first. Sales will flat line fast. They have to front load it as it will be 50% within a few months to the first major sale event on the schedule.

Save your money. Clippers will take the story out and post it as a short film. If anything about the game play annoyed you before it will only be worse now.

[tfa]

Nintendo used expensive cartridges and had outrageous licensing fees. The only pricing history that's relevant is pc game price history.

Lets use an EA pc game from the past as an example. Dead Space was $50 on pc in 2008. At retail EA netted about 55% of the $50, so that's $27.

Digitally EA gets 70% on a steam sale. That's $49 per sale on Jedi Survivor. $25 in 2008 is $35 adjusted for inflation. So it appears EA is making an extra $14 on every sale compared to what they made on games back then. On top of that the market has grown considerably. So a game like this will outsell Dead Space at least 5 to 1.

[Ghost | Severage]

Better "Quality than ever" lmao. Meanwhile triple A studios dropping the ball with quality that is getting worse with every new released game and still demand 70€ for a bug riddled and broken mess, not to mention ♥♥♥♥♥♥ stories, repetitive gameplay and so on.

Meanwhile on the other side there are hundred upon hundreds of indie-devs dropping one high quality game after another for 40€ and far less.

Stop defending an unreasonable price increase on "Triple A" games while the games are complete ♥♥♥♥ on almost all aspects.

Almost all major releases this year, including Forspoken, Dead Space remake, that other dead space copy game (don't remember the name), Darktide and so on were complete ♥♥♥♥, especially in performance, story, etc.
Broken promises on all fronts, deleted content on release and so much more.

And the people are sitting there: "BuT tHe DeVeLoPeRs NeEd MoRe MoNeY tOo. StOp HaTiNg ThE pRiCe InCrEaSe AnD aCcEpT iT."

[Id]

"stop complaining guys because I spent my 70 bucks already and i want others to do the same so I don't feel bad"