Bad performance with low GPU usage?

[gray314]

I'm getting incredibly shoddy performance with this game on Epic settings Ray Tracing off and VSync on with a RTX 4090 Laptop gpu. Sometimes I get smooth performance but it will still stutter and other times it is near unplayable. Even on low settings it has relatively poor performance, sometimes reaching 1 fps. Gpu utilization is only about 40-70 except when in the menu where it goes up to the 90s. Anything I can do do?

[Drae_gon]

Is your CPU bottle necking the GPU? 50% utilization is still very low. Power plan set to performance? Drivers up to date? Check off all the normal boxes first. What's your actual monitoring software numbers for temp and power? So many possible issues.

[gray314]

CPU mode set to turbo, GPU set to ultimate. Drivers up to date. How can I tell if the CPU is bottlenecking the GPU?

[gray314]

Nvm - I was measuring some other stat. GPU usage is between 40-70%. But frame rate still dips to 1fps sometimes

[CJM]

Originally posted by gray314:

Nvm - I was measuring some other stat. GPU usage is between 40-70%. But frame rate still dips to 1fps sometimes

This is normal. It is the reason for mixed reviews.

The game is heavily CPU bound, especially in areas with higher A.I. populations.

A lot of people consider this to be "playable". It seems to reflect a "normal" PC Gaming experience for those not attuned to the standards of the "PC Gamer Master Race". Especially, budget consumers consider this to be normal performance.

Th game was rushed, to get it released before Electronic Arts' licensing for Star Wars expired in 2023.

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by CJM:

A lot of people consider this to be "playable". It seems to reflect a "normal" PC Gaming experience for those not attuned to the standards of the "PC Gamer Master Race". Especially, budget consumers consider this to be normal performance.

I'm thinking budget consumers with potato PCs aren't bothered as much by using *gasp* MEDIUM settings, either.

Personally, Medium Settings are an affront to my senses.

And my Uberkomputer only manages to pick up like 5 fps going from High to Medium. The game has some seriously wonky optimization on PC.

Metacritic has Jedi Survivor at:

Xbox X - 86%
PS5 - 85%
PC - 78%

And Steam, where many Master Racers congregate, dips into the 60's probably because it's a community of people who know how to make games work on their PC but still can't make sense of the performance.

[CJM]

Originally posted by gray314:

How can I tell if the CPU is bottlenecking the GPU?

Well, one way to tell is to lower your resolution and graphics preset, and see if you get more than a mere 5-10 FPS going from "High" to "Medium", or more representative is going from DLSS Quality to Balanced, which seems like it should approximately double the frame rate if not CPU bound.

If your frame rate does not increase, or the stutters do not dissipate, with lower graphics settings, then it is likely CPU bound.

There is typically a correlation between the CPU Usage % and lower frame rates when it is CPU bound. This correlation is centered around the number of threads that are being bottlenecked.

Jedi: Survivor was made using Unreal Engine 4, and thus is built around Quad Core technology. Under optimal conditions Jedi: Survivor will utilize twelve threads, and may imperceptibly take advantage of idle cores/threads, in order to feed the GPU.

When the CPU is bottlenecking, the total CPU utilization may even decrease, as other threads go idle waiting on the busier thread(s). CPU Utilization can go as low as a single Performance Core (P-Core).

Originally posted by Jouchebag:

[And my Uberkomputer only manages to pick up like 5 fps going from High to Medium. The game has some seriously wonky optimization on PC.