Crashing in Coruscant - EDIT: Ray Tracing is broken, and is the culprit

[Balder]

Hi,

Just got Jedi Survivor yesterday, and even at the first map I'm getting crashes - shortly after teaming up with Bode. Tried again for the third time, and the game crashes.

Of course, there are no manual saves, and the game compiles its shaders ...every...single...time I restart the game.

I'm already getting frustrated with the game. If it's unplayable, then I should return it with the 2 hour window that Steam has.

How is the game working for you guys?

I use Windows 11, 10600K, 4090 with 551.86, 32gb RAM, SSD.

My other games are working fine. I'm also noticing stuttering, even with higher framerates like 90-100 fps. I maxed out the visual settings, and get 18gb+ VRAM usage in the first map.

This is a shame, I really like the first map so far. It even reminds me a bit of Dark Forces and Jed Knight with its focus on verticality.


Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

[Freakshow]

The last Jedi game stuttered, too, as you entered every new area. Believe it or not, this one is actually smoother lol.

Honestly, yeah, if it's crashing non-stop, return it. Ya know....

If you do Microsoft Rewards every day (takes like 3 minutes taking your time), you get Game Pass for PC. Game Pass for PC gives you practically all of the Xbox app games for free. WITH Game Pass, you get EA Play. Not EA Play Pro, but EA Play, so, you get every Battlefield game for free, you get this game for free, the last one, Both Hellblades (Senua's Sacrifice) every Halo, including Infinite, F1 22 and 23.... way too many to list on both EA and Xbox.

I'm pretty sure you can get your first month for $1 usually. Game Pass is like $9.99/month. OR do Microsoft Rewards, gain the points, spend them on Game Pass. Start off with the $1 subscription for 1 month (sometimes it's 3 months, I dunno if it's still going on), and go play the game on EA Play. Then you'll have more time to figure it out instead of wasting your money to learn there's no fix. You've got the RAM and you've got the VRAM. Could be a CPU issue. I dunno, I'm on a 5900x.

I know this much.... Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) and Intel 10th gen have games that gain nothing from Smart Access Memory while Zen 3 (5000 series) and Intel 12th gen will make gains. It's like half the games. I dunno why. Maybe you have too little cache in your CPU to keep up with this extremely memory intensive game. Just saying because I have a 5900x (12c/24t tons of cache) with 64MB cache and you have a 10600K with 12MB cache. This game gobbles up whatever memory you have to throw at it. If ReBAR isn't working right for you and you're swapping memory chunks around at 256MB at a time instead of up to 16GB, maybe that's an issue. Dude, I'm getting way out there for no reason.

I see people talking about 4090's crashing in every game forum I check out, honestly. Could be your GPU or the drivers.

Game is crashing right? Not the PC shutting down? Just checking that it's not a PSU issue.

I'm on a 5900x + 2x16GB DDR4 3600 C16 dual rank + 6700XT 12GB and I haven't had any crashes. So the GAME is stable.. or at least, can be. It's something with you rig. Whether it's hardware or software/driver related, who knows? Or return the Dark Side's GPU and come the the Light Side? Throw a 7900XTX in there. Half the price and you can play the game and get a CPU that befits the rest of the rig. You could even totally move to an AMD 7900x3D CPU + Mobo and then have money left over. Come to the light side ;-) We have cache and VRAM. Plus the 7900XTX outperforms the 4090 in Jedi Survivor. And, of course, the 7900x3D beats every CPU in gaming.

And you'd have another $500+ in your pocket after selling your current CPU and mobo. I mean, doesn't the 4090 cost $1800? And a 7900 XTX is like $800-$900?

[Balder]

Thanks, none of my other games are crashing like this. It's definitely an issue with Jedi Survivor. Could be because I play on max settings with RT on. I only have a few minutes left of my playtime, so I can't test any more without loosing my return option.

I'll think about it. I really enjoyed the first map so far, although I'm sure I'll start rolling my eyes over the characters and story at some point. Respawn has excellent design artists, I'll give them that. I loved the Coruscant map so far.

[Freakshow]

Originally posted by Balder:

Thanks, none of my other games are crashing like this. It's definitely an issue with Jedi Survivor. Could be because I play on max settings with RT on. I only have a few minutes left of my playtime, so I can't test any more without loosing my return option.

I'll think about it. I really enjoyed the first map so far, although I'm sure I'll start rolling my eyes over the characters and story at some point. Respawn has excellent design artists, I'll give them that. I loved the Coruscant map so far.

If ya got a debit card with $1 on it, get Game Pass right now and download EA Games and play it on there with your included EA Play membership. May not even crash on there. Different patches and whatnot.

All I can say is I haven't had any issues with the game on the EA Games app (I have different hardware and drivers, though) and it is an absolutely beautiful game to play. Looks soooo good. It's worth switching over for $1 PLUS you're gonna get a TRUCK LOAD of games for free that I can assure you that you will enjoy.

You get the Xbox Games app from the Microsoft Store and EA Games from the EA website, I believe. Linking accounts literally takes one click... you just log in to EA Games with your Xbox App account. A window will pop up asking how you want to log in. You click on the Xbox icon. It opens a browser and auto-opens the app (after you've downloaded it) and logs you in.

It's all hassle-free. Go for it :-D The game stays pretty cool imo..lots of cinematic cuts that are rendered by your PC. I just mention that because I love locally rendered cinematics.

Check out the games on Game Pass for PC and EA Play and see if there is enough there to interest you into making the change and getting your money back.

[Balder]

Originally posted by Freakshow:

Originally posted by Balder:

Thanks, none of my other games are crashing like this. It's definitely an issue with Jedi Survivor. Could be because I play on max settings with RT on. I only have a few minutes left of my playtime, so I can't test any more without loosing my return option.

I'll think about it. I really enjoyed the first map so far, although I'm sure I'll start rolling my eyes over the characters and story at some point. Respawn has excellent design artists, I'll give them that. I loved the Coruscant map so far.

If ya got a debit card with $1 on it, get Game Pass right now and download EA Games and play it on there with your included EA Play membership. May not even crash on there. Different patches and whatnot.

All I can say is I haven't had any issues with the game on the EA Games app (I have different hardware and drivers, though) and it is an absolutely beautiful game to play. Looks soooo good. It's worth switching over for $1 PLUS you're gonna get a TRUCK LOAD of games for free that I can assure you that you will enjoy.

You get the Xbox Games app from the Microsoft Store and EA Games from the EA website, I believe. Linking accounts literally takes one click... you just log in to EA Games with your Xbox App account. A window will pop up asking how you want to log in. You click on the Xbox icon. It opens a browser and auto-opens the app (after you've downloaded it) and logs you in.

It's all hassle-free. Go for it :-D The game stays pretty cool imo..lots of cinematic cuts that are rendered by your PC. I just mention that because I love locally rendered cinematics.

Check out the games on Game Pass for PC and EA Play and see if there is enough there to interest you into making the change and getting your money back.

Thanks, I'll check it out! :) Although, I'll probably keep the game. Hopefully disabling RT will fix the crashing, but I'll miss the better visuals.

EDIT: I tried turned Ray Tracing off vs on, and it's 100% the issue causing crashing. So Ray Tracing is broken in this game. Btw., this is with no undervolt or overclock on my GPU, so it's definitely the game itself.