Disappointing Story?

[Lord_Sabnock]

I have to say that story is a real disappointment. every story element is telegraphed horribly with every twist and turn being so obvious i had to wear dark glasses to improve the experience. Plus the amount of times you hit a failure point only to be given an overly stupid and weak work around numbers in the to many.

Acting is OK, apart from the main villain, who acts like a spoilt child, but never truly engaging and i felt no love for any of them.

Pointless chests and work benches.

The skill tree is fun though.

[OgamiGoro]

I agree with you. The Story is atrocious. I do think Respawn are true, old school Star Wars fans, and they did the best they could. I'm not a fan of the Prequels, but with the first game they presented the events of the Prequels as historical facts, and in a way that made them seem like they could've been epic.

They did the same with the High Republic failed multimedia event that Disney Lucasfilm headed by Dear Leader KK pushed them to incorporate. To me it was a distraction from the real story, which was Cal's personal war against the Empire that he felt like he was losing, along with everyone else he loves. It looks like there was a story here, but Disney Lucasfilm had to stick their fat, middle aged noses into it. And it just diluted what could've been great.

And they made Vader a whipped dog, so that didn't help anything either.

[Griever]

Publicado originalmente por Cal:

The reason why it was bland and boring is because they chose to use the high republic as the setting for the game and literally no one cares about the high republic at this point.

This. I don’t even know what the high republic is, yet another Disney invention they conjured.

[diesoon]

The first game was about rebuilding the Jedi Order, and at the end, you finally find the kids, that are about to be the next Jedi. This was the only one plot point that was interesting from the first game, and of course they abandoned it. Overall, if someone says this is a great story, ask him to summarize it. I couldn't. This is rather bad.

[cyro]

Publicado originalmente por Lord_Sabnock:

i got the DJ in the bar and hoped i would be able to play the song from the start of the Fallen Order that Cal was listening to on his headphones whilst work but i can't find it :(

It's called Sugaan Essena, Doma sells it

[hodor]

gameplay, visuals, voices, among other things were nice. new stances were interesting. but
some graphics problems were still there even with the patches that fixed early issues, like objects flashing white as the camera moves. had some mission bugs. the bounty hunter side quests are broken for me. can't talk to the NPC about it, mission objective to talk to her won't progress. bounty hunters don't appear at any of their locations.

for the story, i thought it was not the best, but also not terrible. it did leave me with questions about some character decisions. one example, how was Bode going to live on an entire planet by themselves? what were they going to eat, was he intending to live off the land and like hermits? and then Kata as a little kid seemed too agreeable with strangers who just killed her father, even if she were mature enough to be aware that her father wasn't a good guy.

[CJM]

Publicado originalmente por hodor:

for the story, i thought it was not the best, but also not terrible. it did leave me with questions about some character decisions. one example, how was Bode going to live on an entire planet by themselves? what were they going to eat, was he intending to live off the land and like hermits?

It may be more viable to live on an planet by yourself like hermits, than on a crowded planet.

1. You're not having to buy land, nor seeds, nor get building permits, nor license patents. You are not restricted in your ambition.

2. The planet has been scouted, and Bode has accessed Z's memory banks. It is entirely possible that he has a "thumb drive" of edible plants and wildlife.

3. Bode has a space ship, and presumably credits in his bank account. All one needs is a few basic essentials to establish a homestead, and then one can survive entirely independently.

4. Modern technology might fall into disrepair, but if you are not having to compete against modern technology to meet your basic necessities, then you don't need that technology.

5. They are force users, and force powers can make up the labor cost of modern technology. One could probably start a homestead with just a lightsaber and force powers.

Publicado originalmente por hodor:

and then Kata as a little kid seemed too agreeable with strangers who just killed her father

Yeah, there is that.


A concern I have is that romantic attachments are forbidden in the Jedi Order, which Bode will likely seek to restore on Tanalorr. Leaving behind the dark side life he was caught up in.

Thus Kata would not likely have children of her own under Bode's care. Bode would not be interested, because he wants to be a Jedi again.

This is why he ends up being friends with Cal, in my understanding. Both want to restore the Jedi Order, and both think that Cal dating Merrin is the path to the Dark Side.

Bode just doesn't want any imperial spies to find Tanalorr, and order a strike by Vader himself. Cal is known to have brought at least one imperial spy "into the fold" resulting in a large number of casualties...

[OgamiGoro]

Publicado originalmente por diesoon:

The first game was about rebuilding the Jedi Order, and at the end, you finally find the kids, that are about to be the next Jedi. This was the only one plot point that was interesting from the first game, and of course they abandoned it. Overall, if someone says this is a great story, ask him to summarize it. I couldn't. This is rather bad.

I agree. But I'll try: Cal and company bravely run away.

[EricHVela]

The references to the High Republic were confusing to one without D+. The *********? I thought that meant some creature came out of the **** to cause such devastation. Turns out it was a ********** incident that spanned a good portion of the Galaxy back in the High Republic days. The ***** confused me, too. Turns out they're just a ****** organization and not some *******.

Once I learned all those from online searching, a lot of questions were answered and things make a lot more sense even though their references were supplementary, but I really prefer self-contained stories rather than referencing things that require novels and paid subscriptions to explain. Those supplementary references set up important events.

As for the rest of the story, it felt unfinished, but I think that's the intent. As for predictability, it seems that opinion is in contention as many have expressed that they feel it unexpectedly veered off without reason.

As for summarizing the story, that's easy if one paid attention to the story and made easier if one keeps exploring after the credits but would be impossible if one just followed waypoint to waypoint and skipped/ignored all the dialog.

(I still wish there was a reasonable way to speed up speech. I swear they talk too slow sometimes... but I often watch YouTube between 2x and 1.25x rather than 1x because I just don't have the time. It's not as easy as it sounds, though. [Heh. Sounds.] A lot of things involve synchronization back and forth between speech and action. Big gaps in speech just to wait for someone to finish moving the arms or walking to a mark or jumps in animation to catch up to speech.)

[CJM]

Publicado originalmente por EricHVela:

The references to the High Republic were confusing to one without D+. The *********? I thought that meant some creature came out of the **** to cause such devastation. Turns out it was a ********** incident that spanned a good portion of the Galaxy back in the High Republic days. The ***** confused me, too. Turns out they're just a ****** organization and not some *******.

Once I learned all those from online searching, a lot of questions were answered and things make a lot more sense even though their references were supplementary, but I really prefer self-contained stories rather than referencing things that require novels and paid subscriptions to explain. Those supplementary references set up important events.

Yeah, I was just playing the game like it was Lego Star Wars Complete Edition, just mindless gameplay set in the Star Wars universe.

Publicado originalmente por EricHVela:

As for the rest of the story, it felt unfinished, but I think that's the intent.

So much vagueness in your statement,...

Publicado originalmente por EricHVela:

As for predictability, it seems that opinion is in contention as many have expressed that they feel it unexpectedly veered off without reason.

There are three types of audiences to this game:

1. Those who did not notice the foreshadowing of the ending.

2. Those who saw the foreshadowing and expected a plot twist.

3. Those who played KOTOR 2. They might be are wondering why Kreia didn't show up in a Jedi Holocron to explain the plot.

Publicado originalmente por EricHVela:

As for summarizing the story, that's easy if one paid attention to the story and made easier if one keeps exploring after the credits but would be impossible if one just followed waypoint to waypoint and skipped/ignored all the dialog.

I summarize it as a Rorschach test. I could also summarize it as whiplash as the narrative went from 0 to 100 post-credits.