Ray Trace on/off Compare

[dresoccer4]

I wanted to compare ray tracing on and off to see which I liked more and I gotta say I'm leaning towards ray tracing OFF. I've uploaded two screenshots I took, check em out for yourself

RT on: https://i.ibb.co/qDZTqQw/RT-on.png
RT off: https://i.ibb.co/Xyh30XV/RT-off.png

With RT off there are much better shadows for everything on the screen including the plants and cliff walls. Even the primary colors of many parts of the scenes are different. Which do you like more?

[IchigoMait]

RT on seems to be just showing how it would actually look with real lighting, but yeah visually RT off seems to be more pleasing, but some don't make sense, you'll see that with water later on.

I'll have it off, I need that 10fps.

[dresoccer4]

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

RT on seems to be just showing how it would actually look with real lighting, but yeah visually RT off seems to be more pleasing, but some don't make sense, you'll see that with water later on.

I'll have it off, I need that 10fps.

i'll keep my eye out for water.

[Cormoran]

Looks like there's some light bounce in the RT on image, good but if there's a significant FPS hit, not good enough.
The clincher for me is water, it's very bad with RT off. Any plants in front of the water break the reflection.
I ended up leaving it on mostly because I end up with around 30FPS whether it's on or off.

[IchigoMait]

Originally posted by dresoccer4:

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

RT on seems to be just showing how it would actually look with real lighting, but yeah visually RT off seems to be more pleasing, but some don't make sense, you'll see that with water later on.

I'll have it off, I need that 10fps.

i'll keep my eye out for water.

With some grass between your sight and water, maybe it looks garbage even with rt on. RT off it looks pretty annoying, might be an AO issue.

[AceflieR]

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

Originally posted by dresoccer4:

i'll keep my eye out for water.

With some grass between your sight and water, maybe it looks garbage even with rt on. RT off it looks pretty annoying, might be an AO issue.

UE4 issue in every game with water that I've played.

[twiggy]

off looks better except for the missing shadow under cals feet. off makes it look likes hes floating

[InstableMonster]

Most of the time ray tracing is so poorly implemented that the perdormance hit isnt worth the visual enhancement it brings

[IchigoMait]

Originally posted by InstableMonster:

Most of the time ray tracing is so poorly implemented that the perdormance hit isnt worth the visual enhancement it brings

It just does what it does, it shows how it actually would look with proper light, if it doesn't look good for you, it's because of everything else. If RT off looks good for you, then that's just personal preference for hand crafted aesthetics instead of realistically working light even if the end result does look uglier, realism comes when everything is done properly.

[InstableMonster]

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

Originally posted by InstableMonster:

Most of the time ray tracing is so poorly implemented that the perdormance hit isnt worth the visual enhancement it brings

It just does what it does, it shows how it actually would look with proper light, if it doesn't look good for you, it's because of everything else. If RT off looks good for you, then that's just personal preference for hand crafted aesthetics instead of realistically working light even if the end result does look uglier, realism comes when everything is done properly.

you completely missed the point, but kudos for not reading properly and having the balls to write a reply

[Cipotrueno]

The problem at least in my case is if I turn raytracing off reflections looked horrible and bugged/glitched (in bodies of water like rivers), it seems devs didn't finish/polish the reflections without raytracing

[Avalanche]

Originally posted by InstableMonster:

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

It just does what it does, it shows how it actually would look with proper light, if it doesn't look good for you, it's because of everything else. If RT off looks good for you, then that's just personal preference for hand crafted aesthetics instead of realistically working light even if the end result does look uglier, realism comes when everything is done properly.

you completely missed the point, but kudos for not reading properly and having the balls to write a reply

What you basically meant, if i am right, is that, while it might look good, the performance cost of said feature is too high for it.

The only game i have seen it implemented well, is the Spiderman games on the PC. (Spider Man Remastered and Miles Morales), they utilize it rather well and even have stable fps enough for me to enjoy it.

Every other place, like Hogwarts Legacy, it took more than it gave, so as you said, most games with it, just don't add enough quality increase to justify the fps hit.

I might be wrong.

[Sorata]

Leaving the Ray tracing off myself for now as it causes DXGI errors on Jedha that crashes the game for me. On or Off it only drops my fps by three so I think its pretty glitched.

[InstableMonster]

Originally posted by Avalanche:

Originally posted by InstableMonster:

you completely missed the point, but kudos for not reading properly and having the balls to write a reply

What you basically meant, if i am right, is that, while it might look good, the performance cost of said feature is too high for it.

The only game i have seen it implemented well, is the Spiderman games on the PC. (Spider Man Remastered and Miles Morales), they utilize it rather well and even have stable fps enough for me to enjoy it.

Every other place, like Hogwarts Legacy, it took more than it gave, so as you said, most games with it, just don't add enough quality increase to justify the fps hit.

I might be wrong.

Thats what I said, what he said I said was that it didnt look good, which wasnt the point and wasnt written anywhere in my comment, hence my comment on his poor reading skills, since my comment wasnt hard to understand

[IchigoMait]

Originally posted by InstableMonster:

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

It just does what it does, it shows how it actually would look with proper light, if it doesn't look good for you, it's because of everything else. If RT off looks good for you, then that's just personal preference for hand crafted aesthetics instead of realistically working light even if the end result does look uglier, realism comes when everything is done properly.

you completely missed the point, but kudos for not reading properly and having the balls to write a reply

You said it's poorly implemented, you didn't state in what way it's poorly implemented, so the only thing I can do is speculate that your "poorly implemented" means that you dislike how the result looks.
To which I say, it looks how it looks because how everything else looks in the game.
You don't blame the sun for your view of something not looking they way you want it to look, you blame what ever is interacting with the light.
The RT is properly implemented in my opinion, if you want to disprove that, then be my guest, say why it's ♥♥♥♥.

FYI Learn to write in more detail, otherwise you're comments are just pointless and waste of space.

[InstableMonster]

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

Originally posted by InstableMonster:

you completely missed the point, but kudos for not reading properly and having the balls to write a reply

You said it's poorly implemented, you didn't state in what way it's poorly implemented, so the only thing I can do is speculate that your "poorly implemented" means that you dislike how the result looks.
To which I say, it looks how it looks because how everything else looks in the game.
You don't blame the sun for your view of something not looking they way you want it to look, you blame what ever is interacting with the light.
The RT is properly implemented in my opinion, if you want to disprove that, then be my guest, say why it's ♥♥♥♥.

FYI Learn to write in more detail, otherwise you're comments are just pointless and waste of space.

Clearly stated that it was poorly implemented in a way that the performance cost wasnt worth the eye candy.

Learn to read, you're the only one who didnt get it.