Can we accept that Cameron terrible in this role now?

[Syn]

Honestly the game premise is again entirely ruined by not having character creation.
Please don't come at me with "iT's cANoN" either. It's not like they've done anything with it. Nor should they. This is a game, not an advertisement for the oversaturated Star Wars EU.

[Escapist]

This game is about a specific character, not some rando build-a-bear.

[Syn]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Escapist:

This game is about a specific character, not some rando build-a-bear.

Who was Cal Kestis before the previous game?
Oh right, a rando.

And again. Who cares. It's a game. You can have created characters with full characterisation in games. Why is this concept beyond some? Do you think Dark Souls is the sole template for created characters and not a design choice specific to that series?

[Ebon Wolf]

Just say you want character creation. Lol Gamers whine over just about anything. Max level entitlement.

[Escapist]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Syn:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Escapist:

This game is about a specific character, not some rando build-a-bear.

Who was Cal Kestis before the previous game?
Oh right, a rando.

And again. Who cares. It's a game. You can have created characters with full characterisation in games. Why is this concept beyond some?

It's the second game in a series. You're a bit late to be complaining about this.

[Syn]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ebon Wolf:

Just say you want character creation. Lol Gamers whine over just about anything. Max level entitlement.

"Honestly the game premise is again entirely ruined by not having character creation."

I think I was abundantly clear. Perhaps you should read beyond the threat titles next time.

[Syn]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Escapist:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Syn:

Who was Cal Kestis before the previous game?
Oh right, a rando.

And again. Who cares. It's a game. You can have created characters with full characterisation in games. Why is this concept beyond some?

It's the second game in a series. You're a bit late to be complaining about this.

Jedi Academy was the fourth game in a series.
*The more you know.*

[Escapist]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Syn:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Escapist:

It's the second game in a series. You're a bit late to be complaining about this.

Jedi Academy was the fourth game in a series.
*The more you know.*

Alright, so come back when the 4th game is out and you can complain then.

[JocularJosh]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Syn:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Escapist:

It's the second game in a series. You're a bit late to be complaining about this.

Jedi Academy was the fourth game in a series.
*The more you know.*

But these games are literally centered around the main character, cal.
He is a fixed character, with a backstory and everything.
The majority of games have set characters.
And this game is the direct continuation of the first game with the exact same character so it would make absolutely zero sense to suddenly change the character completely.

Maybe a new star wars game will let you do that but if you want it here you should just leave since it ain't gonna happen.

[ƬᗩԲԲվ]

The reason I never finished the first one. If this game went the way of jedi academy it would have been massive.

[Vodka]

Character creation is soooo boring. This is a canon Star Wars game, not a generic mmo...

[EB64]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Syn:

And again. Who cares. It's a game. You can have created characters with full characterisation in games. Why is this concept beyond some? Do you think Dark Souls is the sole template for created characters and not a design choice specific to that series?

Cal being the way he is is a design choice specific to the series...Such irony.

[Syn]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Escapist:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Syn:

Jedi Academy was the fourth game in a series.
*The more you know.*

Alright, so come back when the 4th game is out and you can complain then.

Says second game is too late to be talking about this.
I give example of a 4th game where the change happen.
Says to come back with the 4th game.

lol.

Oprindeligt skrevet af JocularJosh:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Syn:

Jedi Academy was the fourth game in a series.
*The more you know.*

But these games are literally centered around the main character, cal.
He is a fixed character, with a backstory and everything.
The majority of games have set characters.
And this game is the direct continuation of the first game with the exact same character so it would make absolutely zero sense to suddenly change the character completely.

Maybe a new star wars game will let you do that but if you want it here you should just leave since it ain't gonna happen.

Okay since apparently nobody does their own research anymore, let me spell it out for you-

Dark Forces > Jedi Knight > Jedi Outcast > Jedi Academy.
Those first 3 games were centred around Kyle Katarn, a fixed character with a backstory and everything.
Jedi Academy was a direct continuation of the previous games where Kyle Katarn is still present as an NPC. None of that stopped it from evolving into character creation, which was more fun and opened up so many more options than centering a game around an atrocious actor with no personality.

Oprindeligt skrevet af Ichiiii /o/:

Character creation is soooo boring. This is a canon Star Wars game, not a generic mmo...

Character creation predates mmos by decades.
Honestly, these arguments.. no wonder gaming is in the state it's in.

Oprindeligt skrevet af EB64:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Syn:

And again. Who cares. It's a game. You can have created characters with full characterisation in games. Why is this concept beyond some? Do you think Dark Souls is the sole template for created characters and not a design choice specific to that series?

Cal being the way he is is a design choice specific to the series...Such irony.

Yes it is. It's a *bad* design choice. How is that irony?

[Meep]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Samurai×Mo:

But, it's a sequel of a journey of the last jedi who survived the purge...

Regardless of his performance, he's not even close to the last Jedi, not even in the current canon (Legends has at least a dozen more). This takes place the same year as the literal Kenobi series which revealed that not only have more Jedi escaped on The Path but that Vos was one of them

Also Yoda is of course alive, The Kid is for all intents and purposes still a jedi youngling.

Cere is literally in this game & actual spoiler for this game one of our antagonists is a jedi ...again.

On top of all of that Kanan is still bopping around the galaxy though he won't take on his apprentice Ezra until the years Andor takes place (still a few years off).

That's a minimum of five other Jedi, six if you count Ashoka. He is emphatically not the last jedi, all of these people survived the purge. About half of them are confirmed to live past the original trilogy!

(as to old Ben's insistence Luke was the last... remember that he deals in truths "from a certain perspective" So keep in mind that Cal could end up anywhere in any condition by his 'final' adventure.)

[jerrypocalypse]

Custom characters have a place, and I enjoy them, but I like Cal as a preset character. They're bringing in a lot more connections to other material in this one and it makes me think they're working toward an eventual movie/show appearance

[Rogue]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Syn:

Dark Forces > Jedi Knight > Jedi Outcast > Jedi Academy.
Those first 3 games were centred around Kyle Katarn, a fixed character with a backstory and everything.
Jedi Academy was a direct continuation of the previous games where Kyle Katarn is still present as an NPC. None of that stopped it from evolving into character creation, which was more fun and opened up so many more options than centering a game around an atrocious actor with no personality.

I thought diverting away from Kyle Katarn was a bad choice for Jedi Academy. Despite the improved saber combat and acrobatics in JA, the story was lame and the characters were hollow. JK and JO were so much more enjoyable to me, and Kyle was a major reason for that.