Denuvo cripples another game.

[Greed Is Addiction]

Doesn't anyone ever learn? I'm sure there's other broken and buggy code floating around in the game but that's why we have the early adopters - to pay the highest price for the most broken version of the game.

Just sit back and wait and watch for a sale. You get a better, patched up version down the road for less and don't have as many bugs to deal with. That's worth paying less for.

Thank you early adopters for making this sacrifice with your money. Supporting developer greed addiction (paranoia-infused addiction) isn't something I'm willing to pay for.

[CISBROS]

does anyone here have this same issue? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on5oUH3qYt0&t=11s

[aro]

Publicado originalmente por Dagtag:

who is to say adding a drm ON TOP OF THAT doesn't decrease it even more?

History does. DRM like Denuvo does not prevent piracy and never has. It only inconveniences legitimate buyers while pirates have their cracked version quickly. People pirate games and movies often because it's less hassle to do so when the alternative is to pay for an inferior, DRM-laden product.

[[-iD-]]

Publicado originalmente por aro:

Publicado originalmente por Dagtag:

who is to say adding a drm ON TOP OF THAT doesn't decrease it even more?

History does. DRM like Denuvo does not prevent piracy and never has. It only inconveniences legitimate buyers while pirates have their cracked version quickly. People pirate games and movies often because it's less hassle to do so when the alternative is to pay for an inferior, DRM-laden product.

it doesn't prevent it, it only delays it and denuvo's entire business model is based on this. it works as advertised.

[AUTI5T1X]

Publicado originalmente por Dagtag:

Publicado originalmente por No Known Stereotype:

This was already explained and answered if you know how to read and are paying attention - it makes no contribution to game performance and everyone knows that. The reason it's included is paranoia (altered thinking) due to addiction based upon greed. There's no amount of times this can be explained to make it ring home if your thinking has been altered enough already.

no, no it wasn't answered, nothing of what you just said has anything to do with malware

instead of ranting over something i didn't ask about, how about you answer my question first: why do you assume denuvo is malware?

Because it is?

"Malware" as a term, is a combination of the French term "Malade", (which translates in English to "sick", or "unwell" depending on the context)and the English term "software". Put together, it translates directly to "unwell/sick software".

Learning about different languages, and their lexicon, may be to your benefit.

[Dagtag]

Publicado originalmente por aro:

History does. DRM like Denuvo does not prevent piracy and never has.

and i never said that it did... how about you pay attention before replying?

It only inconveniences legitimate buyers while pirates have their cracked version quickly.

oooof, wrong again...

so firstly, how does it inconvenience buyers? and how does it ONLY inconvenience buyers?

secondly, on average games with denuvo take months to crack, the ones that get cracked within weeks are the exception, not the rule.

People pirate games and movies often because it's less hassle to do so when the alternative is to pay for an inferior, DRM-laden product.

wrong again, seriously, at least work on your arguments first.

a bad implementation of denuvo, does not reflect on denuvo.

a game with a drm is not guaranteed to have a performance impact, once you realise that your arguments will start making sense. the only thing history proves time and time again is that people like you are clueless

[Kussin]

Publicado originalmente por Wolfman-RIP:

It doesn't even help stop piracy it actually encourages it as people rip games to get a better gaming experience without the drm screwing the performance.


Another game falling victim to snake oil salesmen.

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I really dont want to encourage piracy in any way; but there is many games ruined by further DRM's, Denuvo and whatever additions that ruin the experience right ahead. Pirated games almost seem like the more comfortable choice. Its like buying a game and running the pirated version because it runs better. Twisted world, tho.

[Dagtag]

Publicado originalmente por AUTI5T1X:

Publicado originalmente por Dagtag:

no, no it wasn't answered, nothing of what you just said has anything to do with malware

instead of ranting over something i didn't ask about, how about you answer my question first: why do you assume denuvo is malware?

Because it is?

"Malware" as a term, is a combination of the French term "Malade", (which translates in English to "sick", or "unwell" depending on the context)and the English term "software". Put together, it translates directly to "unwell/sick software".

Learning about different languages, and their lexicon, may be to your benefit.

learning the meaning of words may be to your benefit... the "mal" in "malware" stands for MALICIOUS.

also, I didn't ask you what it means for something to be malware, I asked what makes DENUVO malware

[[-iD-]]

Publicado originalmente por AUTI5T1X:

Publicado originalmente por Dagtag:

no, no it wasn't answered, nothing of what you just said has anything to do with malware

instead of ranting over something i didn't ask about, how about you answer my question first: why do you assume denuvo is malware?

Because it is?

"Malware" as a term, is a combination of the French term "Malade", (which translates in English to "sick", or "unwell" depending on the context)and the English term "software". Put together, it translates directly to "unwell/sick software".

Learning about different languages, and their lexicon, may be to your benefit.

ok you're great at langauge, but what makes ti sick/unwell?

almost every game that uses it failes to get pirated until its removed by the dev, and it literally drives the person who cracks it insane. i think its doing its job quite nicely.

Publicado originalmente por Dagtag:

Publicado originalmente por AUTI5T1X:

Because it is?

"Malware" as a term, is a combination of the French term "Malade", (which translates in English to "sick", or "unwell" depending on the context)and the English term "software". Put together, it translates directly to "unwell/sick software".

Learning about different languages, and their lexicon, may be to your benefit.

learning the meaning of words may be to your benefit... the "mal" in "malware" stands for MALICIOUS

good point.

[AUTI5T1X]

Publicado originalmente por Dagtag:

Publicado originalmente por AUTI5T1X:

Because it is?

"Malware" as a term, is a combination of the French term "Malade", (which translates in English to "sick", or "unwell" depending on the context)and the English term "software". Put together, it translates directly to "unwell/sick software".

Learning about different languages, and their lexicon, may be to your benefit.

learning the meaning of words may be to your benefit... the "mal" in "malware" stands for MALICIOUS

Did you perhaps stop to consider that it could be both?

Drop the condescension, dude.

[Dagtag]

Publicado originalmente por AUTI5T1X:

Publicado originalmente por Dagtag:

learning the meaning of words may be to your benefit... the "mal" in "malware" stands for MALICIOUS

Did you perhaps stop to consider that it could be both?

Drop the condescension, dude.

no, I didn't "consider" it because there is no considering when it comes to reality...

and thats pretty ironic, isn't it? you came in here to give me a lesson in french when it wasn't even relevant to the topic or the word I was using. learn what a word means before acting like a smart ass

[Behi]

Publicado originalmente por Wolfman-RIP:

Red Dead redemption 2 one of the biggest game releases of all time had its Denuvo cracked in just 2 days.

red dead didnt use denuvo and it took about 2 years to crack.

[AUTI5T1X]

Publicado originalmente por -iD-:

Publicado originalmente por AUTI5T1X:

Because it is?

"Malware" as a term, is a combination of the French term "Malade", (which translates in English to "sick", or "unwell" depending on the context)and the English term "software". Put together, it translates directly to "unwell/sick software".

Learning about different languages, and their lexicon, may be to your benefit.

ok you're great at langauge, but what makes ti sick/unwell?

almost every game that uses it failes to get pirated until its removed by the dev, and it literally drives the person who cracks it insane. i think its doing its job quite nicely.

Publicado originalmente por Dagtag:

learning the meaning of words may be to your benefit... the "mal" in "malware" stands for MALICIOUS

good point.

You're truly asking what makes it so problematic, when you yourself are fully capable as to finding out why?

If you wanted to indirectly out yourself as being manipulative toward others, A+ effort, but that doesn't really accomplish anything, nor get you anywhere.

The same can be said for your openly defending software that has a known track record of causing performance issues. Truly, what are you trying to get at here?

[[-iD-]]

Publicado originalmente por AUTI5T1X:

Publicado originalmente por -iD-:

ok you're great at langauge, but what makes ti sick/unwell?

almost every game that uses it failes to get pirated until its removed by the dev, and it literally drives the person who cracks it insane. i think its doing its job quite nicely.


good point.

You're truly asking what makes it so problematic, when you yourself are fully capable as to finding out why?

If you wanted to indirectly out yourself as being manipulative toward others, A+ effort, but that doesn't really accomplish anything, nor get you anywhere.

The same can be said for your openly defending software that has a known track record of causing performance issues. Truly, what are you trying to get at here?

denuvo has a well known track record of people posting lies.

[AUTI5T1X]

Publicado originalmente por Dagtag:

Publicado originalmente por AUTI5T1X:

Did you perhaps stop to consider that it could be both?

Drop the condescension, dude.

no, I didn't "consider" it because there is no considering when it comes to reality...

and thats pretty ironic, isn't it? you came in here to give me a lesson in french when it wasn't even relevant to the topic or the word I was using. learn what a word means before acting like a smart ass

Exactly, you didn't consider it, as made evident by your inability to think before speaking, and instead, point fingers at others. Furthermore, it's perfectly relevant to the topic at hand. Your not liking, nor agreeing with that, isn't going to change that.

[Dagtag]

Publicado originalmente por AUTI5T1X:

Publicado originalmente por -iD-:

ok you're great at langauge, but what makes ti sick/unwell?

almost every game that uses it failes to get pirated until its removed by the dev, and it literally drives the person who cracks it insane. i think its doing its job quite nicely.


good point.

You're truly asking what makes it so problematic, when you yourself are fully capable as to finding out why?

we are asking you why it constitutes as malware, its a fair question.

and the reason we ask you is because we already know its not, we are just curious to see why you assume it is.

If you wanted to indirectly out yourself as being manipulative toward others, A+ effort, but that doesn't really accomplish anything, nor get you anywhere.

The same can be said for your openly defending software that has a known track record of causing performance issues. Truly, what are you trying to get at here?

again, a bad implementation of software does not actually reflect on that software, try again