Kingdom Come: Deliverance II

Kingdom Come: Deliverance II

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DEI impact on KCD II
Do you like it, dislike it, or don't care about it?

Update:

Apparently this needs some clarification. In KCD II there is a different moral compass than KCD I and it revolves about certain narratives: Men/Tradition/Role models are evil, strong/bossy female characters/focus on minorities. It's shown in the following:


Henry can choose to be gay, Hans is canonically gay, since your choice doesn't "turn him gay".

Henrys halfbrother is from an oppressed minority.

The questline with the Nomads is about a Girl that is oppressed by her brothers and her traditional father. Her father is put in place in the end by his wive.

The Herb Woman was driven out of the village by an influential evil drunkard Man who can't be reasoned with unless threatened.

The Monk in Bohunowitz (or Raborsch, I don't remember) just stands in the middle of the village, yelling around how women are bad and evil creatures, nobody pays attention or react to him.

Rosas Book has a story about questioning the role model of Men. She continues to interrupt in most of cutscenes and shares her opinion on things which usually you can just confirm by "I didn't think of that / that's impressive".

The Mistery Murders Side quests revolves around strong female characters that do not give in to role models and get killed because of that. The Killers killed them because of their frivolous life and are portrayed as the craziest characters ingame. During the Quest, the dude always wants to get Katherine and in order to hear her opinion too, even though her presence adds almost nothing to the discussion.

Musa of Mali is just there and he berates you about his superior culture.

Bathwenches explain you how they're no victims and don't need no help and that their business is important.

You must save the Jewish Quarter in Kuttenberg.


These narratives weren't as present in KCD I, so the focus was set intentionally. So do you like it, don't like it, or are indifferent about it?
Last edited by nosh; Feb 24 @ 10:57am
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Originally posted by Lucifer Verone:
Originally posted by Junglist:

I refuted all your points, you can refute none of mine, you don't own the game, haven't played it, won't own it and will never play it. You do you, ai t it time you went into work at tour "Microsoft support" call center?

Can tell you're from a third world ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tbh.

No brains, no logic. Just a head full of cow farts.
Well there it is, another racist. Coming form the guy who made up excuses like "Henry has PTSD and that can cause him to be Bi" or "Spaghetti is also straight till you get it wet" or the other excuses to justify this change. Im farily certain you have no other points besides scenarios you made up in your head full of "What If's" anc "Can Be's" without any thing to refute the fact that henry was straight and the devs did a change in his and han's character to made them bi. Its true I dont own this game and I havent played it, but I do own the first game and I have played that, and nothing suggests that henry is bi or has an inclination to be bi.

Well im going to tell you the same thing i told the other guy, stick up your non arguments where the sun doesnt shine you racist piece of ♥♥♥♥.

" I dont own this game and I havent played it"

Well there we have it, he literally doesn't know what he's talking about in regard to the writing and character development of the second game. And his only argument is to literally strawman and act like some moral compass
Last edited by The Body Snatcher; Feb 20 @ 6:07am
Originally posted by YUHYUHYUHYUH:
Originally posted by Thomas Eichhorst:

The good old "I wont argue because it's a trap" cop-out. Cute. You can name-drop philosophers all you want, but it doesnt change the core points: feminism sold women corporate slavery as "freedom," it's led to skyrocketing depression and collapsing birth rates, and DEI is corporate-mandated social engineering disguised as progress. You still havent refuted any of that, just basically danced around it with word salad. Try again.

No i don't think you understood what i meant by trap. Do you know what Flew's Falsificationism is when related to arguments about cognitive statements?
Tell you what, I actually do know what Flew's Falsificationism is, and I promise I'll happily discuss it in detail if you can engage with my actual points instead of deflecting with "hidden profile" and "you don't own the game" excuses. Deal?
Originally posted by YUHYUHYUHYUH:
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Originally posted by Lucifer Verone:
Well there it is, another racist. Coming form the guy who made up excuses like "Henry has PTSD and that can cause him to be Bi" or "Spaghetti is also straight till you get it wet" or the other excuses to justify this change. Im farily certain you have no other points besides scenarios you made up in your head full of "What If's" anc "Can Be's" without any thing to refute the fact that henry was straight and the devs did a change in his and han's character to made them bi. Its true I dont own this game and I havent played it, but I do own the first game and I have played that, and nothing suggests that henry is bi or has an inclination to be bi.

Well im going to tell you the same thing i told the other guy, stick up your non arguments where the sun doesnt shine you racist piece of ♥♥♥♥.

" I dont own this game and I havent played it"

Well there we have it, he literally doesn't know what he's talking about in regard to the writing and character development of the second game. And his only argument is to literally strawman and act like some moral compass
How can some like this even exist. Like me owning the game is going to change the fact that Henry is Bi XD. On top of being racist you also have no idea that these changes have nothing to do with owning or playing the game. Keep on talking racist it just makes it more clear you have no idea what your talking about.
Originally posted by Junglist:
Originally posted by Lucifer Verone:
Well there it is, another racist. Coming form the guy who made up excuses like "Henry has PTSD and that can cause him to be Bi" or "Spaghetti is also straight till you get it wet" or the other excuses to justify this change. Im farily certain you have no other points besides scenarios you made up in your head full of "What If's" anc "Can Be's" without any thing to refute the fact that henry was straight and the devs did a change in his and han's character to made them bi. Its true I dont own this game and I havent played it, but I do own the first game and I have played that, and nothing suggests that henry is bi or has an inclination to be bi.

Well im going to tell you the same thing i told the other guy, stick up your non arguments where the sun doesnt shine you racist piece of ♥♥♥♥.

Lol look guys, it's some dumbass from a culture that still has shotgun weddings, honour killings, and first cousin marriages trying to lecture us about morals!

Look troll, you have the option. To ♥♥♥♥ kids irl therefore you're a kid ♥♥♥♥♥♥...

Get away from here you absolute retarded piece of ♥♥♥♥... go scam some grannies on a phone.

It's not racist to criticise your country and culture, I do t look down on all Indians, JUST YOU...
Wow more racism and on top of that justification for your racism hats off man makes sense youre also from the UK same like the other guy, way to diminish your points and arguments, now it really is solidified that youre making nonsense up. Imagine resorting to blatant racism just because you cannot come up with a proper argument to justify your case. Its pathetic really.
Last edited by Lucifer Verone; Feb 20 @ 6:34am
You forgot the Nomad Camp's General Goods Trader problem... You should probably get Grok 3 to write an essay about that guy
Originally posted by Lucifer Verone:
Originally posted by Junglist:

Lol look guys, it's some dumbass from a culture that still has shotgun weddings, honour killings, and first cousin marriages trying to lecture us about morals!

Look troll, you have the option. To ♥♥♥♥ kids irl therefore you're a kid ♥♥♥♥♥♥...

Get away from here you absolute retarded piece of ♥♥♥♥... go scam some grannies on a phone.

It's not racist to criticise your country and culture, I do t look down on all Indians, JUST YOU...
Wow more racism and on top of that justification for your racism hats off man makes sense youre also from the UK same like the other guy, way to diminish your points and arguments, now it really is solidified that youre making nonsense up. Imagine resorting to blatant racism just because you cannot come up with a proper argument to justify your case. Its pathetic really.

We've given you multiple retorts to the point, but you wrap around to the same point over and over again my dude, and you havent even played the game.
Junglist Feb 20 @ 6:37am 
Originally posted by Lucifer Verone:
Originally posted by Junglist:

Lol look guys, it's some dumbass from a culture that still has shotgun weddings, honour killings, and first cousin marriages trying to lecture us about morals!

Look troll, you have the option. To ♥♥♥♥ kids irl therefore you're a kid ♥♥♥♥♥♥...

Get away from here you absolute retarded piece of ♥♥♥♥... go scam some grannies on a phone.

It's not racist to criticise your country and culture, I do t look down on all Indians, JUST YOU...
Wow more racism and on top of that justification for your racism hats off man, way to diminish your points and arguments, now it really is solidified that youre making nonsense up. Imagine resorting to blatant racism just because you cannot come up with a proper argument to justify your case. Its pathetic really.

Racism really? Show me where i have said anything derogatory about your race?

Your culture is vile, that's an easy observation, I have been to India several times, it is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, FACT.

Everything I have said is a legitimate criticism yet you would rather sit on steam forums for a game you DONT own arguing null points rather than go out, touch grass, and lend some help to your country (of which you are so proud) that is clearly in decline...

Degeneracy and criminality rule india, prove me wrong.
Originally posted by Junglist:
Originally posted by Lucifer Verone:
Wow more racism and on top of that justification for your racism hats off man, way to diminish your points and arguments, now it really is solidified that youre making nonsense up. Imagine resorting to blatant racism just because you cannot come up with a proper argument to justify your case. Its pathetic really.

Racism really? Show me where i have said anything derogatory about your race?

Your culture is vile, that's an easy observation, I have been to India several times, it is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, FACT.

Everything I have said is a legitimate criticism yet you would rather sit on steam forums for a game you DONT own arguing null points rather than go out, touch grass, and lend some help to your country (of which you are so proud) that is clearly in decline...

Degeneracy and criminality rule india, prove me wrong.
Keep trying buddy. Its common place for racists to be defensive on their racism. But keep on, atleast im no from a country which is actively banning free speech and silent prayer. Get all the racism out of your system buddy before johnny law asks you for a licence for these steam posts XD.
Originally posted by YUHYUHYUHYUH:
Originally posted by Lucifer Verone:
Wow more racism and on top of that justification for your racism hats off man makes sense youre also from the UK same like the other guy, way to diminish your points and arguments, now it really is solidified that youre making nonsense up. Imagine resorting to blatant racism just because you cannot come up with a proper argument to justify your case. Its pathetic really.

We've given you multiple retorts to the point, but you wrap around to the same point over and over again my dude, and you havent even played the game.
Doesnt change the fact that henry is Bi now. Me playing the game or not doesnt change that. All the 'retorts" you think you and the other guy have given are just wishful scenarios which are nothing more than broad reaches for an explanation. Simple thing is, we had confirmation that henry was straight in the first game yet we have no confirmation of that in this game from anyone. He is Bi, its not something to take up arms on or be racist to one another for, if you dont agree then just say so and move on.
Originally posted by Lucifer Verone:
Originally posted by Junglist:

Racism really? Show me where i have said anything derogatory about your race?

Your culture is vile, that's an easy observation, I have been to India several times, it is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, FACT.

Everything I have said is a legitimate criticism yet you would rather sit on steam forums for a game you DONT own arguing null points rather than go out, touch grass, and lend some help to your country (of which you are so proud) that is clearly in decline...

Degeneracy and criminality rule india, prove me wrong.
Keep trying buddy. Its common place for racists to be defensive on their racism. But keep on, atleast im no from a country which is actively banning free speech and silent prayer. Get all the racism out of your system buddy before johnny law asks you for a licence for these steam posts XD.

Let me just go check that air quality over there.
Originally posted by Lucifer Verone:
Originally posted by Junglist:

I refuted all your points, you can refute none of mine, you don't own the game, haven't played it, won't own it and will never play it. You do you, ai t it time you went into work at tour "Microsoft support" call center?

Can tell you're from a third world ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tbh.

No brains, no logic. Just a head full of cow farts.
Well there it is, another racist. Coming form the guy who made up excuses like "Henry has PTSD and that can cause him to be Bi" or "Spaghetti is also straight till you get it wet" or the other excuses to justify this change. Im farily certain you have no other points besides scenarios you made up in your head full of "What If's" anc "Can Be's" without any thing to refute the fact that henry was straight and the devs did a change in his and han's character to made them bi. Its true I dont own this game and I havent played it, but I do own the first game and I have played that, and nothing suggests that henry is bi or has an inclination to be bi.

Well im going to tell you the same thing i told the other guy, stick up your non arguments where the sun doesnt shine you racist piece of ♥♥♥♥.

What have they done to you, my boy? You went from writing walls of text to calling people pieces of s**t. Quite the character arc (or should I say character 'change', if you catch my drift xD).

But I am glad that you still at it trying to prove that "spaghetti can exist in a quantum superposition of being both dry and straight or wet and bendy at the same time." Schrodinger would be proud.
Originally posted by All Day I Dream About Sax🎷:
Originally posted by Lucifer Verone:
Well there it is, another racist. Coming form the guy who made up excuses like "Henry has PTSD and that can cause him to be Bi" or "Spaghetti is also straight till you get it wet" or the other excuses to justify this change. Im farily certain you have no other points besides scenarios you made up in your head full of "What If's" anc "Can Be's" without any thing to refute the fact that henry was straight and the devs did a change in his and han's character to made them bi. Its true I dont own this game and I havent played it, but I do own the first game and I have played that, and nothing suggests that henry is bi or has an inclination to be bi.

Well im going to tell you the same thing i told the other guy, stick up your non arguments where the sun doesnt shine you racist piece of ♥♥♥♥.

What have they done to you, my boy? You went from writing walls of text to calling people pieces of s**t. Quite the character arc (or should I say character 'change', if you catch my drift xD).

But I am glad that you still at it trying to prove that "spaghetti can exist in a quantum superposition of being both dry and straight or wet and bendy at the same time." Schrodinger would be proud.
What can I say man, i moves up in the world too fast XD. I still cant imagine people going this far into something simple like this, definitely didnt expect them to be racist. But then again I think its something more internal with them. Maybe an Indian took their IT job or something. But honestly these guys had such a reach in arguments it got a little ridiculous.
Originally posted by YUHYUHYUHYUH:
Originally posted by Lucifer Verone:
Keep trying buddy. Its common place for racists to be defensive on their racism. But keep on, atleast im no from a country which is actively banning free speech and silent prayer. Get all the racism out of your system buddy before johnny law asks you for a licence for these steam posts XD.

Let me just go check that air quality over there.
Damn you didnt have to hit me that hard man. I can barely breadth here.
Originally posted by Lucifer Verone:
Originally posted by YUHYUHYUHYUH:

Let me just go check that air quality over there.
Damn you didnt have to hit me that hard man. I can barely breadth here.

India numba wann guys!!!
Originally posted by YUHYUHYUHYUH:
Originally posted by Lucifer Verone:
Damn you didnt have to hit me that hard man. I can barely breadth here.

India numba wann guys!!!
Well I tried but I guess racism is a part of you. Well good luck mate, youre gonna need it when the UK monitors all posts to look for racism and hate speech. Kinda like what youre doing right now. But good luck with all that.
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