Kingdom Come: Deliverance II

Kingdom Come: Deliverance II

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Oomfie Feb 16 @ 12:16am
So about Musa..
So i spoke with Musa the only black npc in the game, he was bragging about his country mining gold instead of silver, and that they treat women better in their part of the world. I don't really mind that. But why can't I stealth kill him or just even pick pocket him? Why is he immune to this, if he's so rich let me steal from him.
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Razorblade Feb 16 @ 12:56am 
Musa is involved in the game's main quest; it's the same reason you can't rob and murder Capon, Zizka, etc.

You can, however, rob what I presume to be his tent in the camp. However, I don't recall there being anything of particular value in there.
Last edited by Razorblade; Feb 16 @ 12:58am
Originally posted by Razorblade:
Musa is involved in the game's main quest; it's the same reason you can't rob and murder Capon, Zizka, etc.
I robbed Zizka of his mace
Raywhisper Feb 16 @ 1:06am 
Lil bros, all your lil friends are already on Avowed forums. You are late.
I couldn't Pick Pocket the Blacksmith Radovan, i Assume because he is a main NPC for the wedding.
He's considered an essential NPC. These are people that you cannot outright kill. A mod will be along to remove essential NPCs but you'll have to use it at your own risk. If such a mod does release, it would be good to let the player know (in a popup message) that attacking this NPC could possibly destroy a questline.

One game did it brilliantly by saying you have killed an important person; either reload or continue upon your doomed fate. Not word-for-word, but something along those lines.
Originally posted by Heuristicus:
One game did it brilliantly by saying you have killed an important person; either reload or continue upon your doomed fate. Not word-for-word, but something along those lines.
Morrowind?
Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:
Originally posted by Heuristicus:
One game did it brilliantly by saying you have killed an important person; either reload or continue upon your doomed fate. Not word-for-word, but something along those lines.
Morrowind?

Was that it? I just don't remember.
Did Daggerfall also say something like that?
Originally posted by Heuristicus:
Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:
Morrowind?

Was that it? I just don't remember.
Yeah.
"With this character's death, the thread of prophecy is severed. Restore a saved game to restore the weave of fate, or persist in the doomed world you have created."

Based fellow morrowind enjoyer
Originally posted by Guri:
So i spoke with Musa the only black npc in the game, he was bragging about his country mining gold instead of silver, and that they treat women better in their part of the world. I don't really mind that. But why can't I stealth kill him or just even pick pocket him? Why is he immune to this, if he's so rich let me steal from him.

Same as other (essential) main quest NPCs. I mean, they could remove the protection when he has played his part, but that protection is not specific to him (as some seem to imply), but rather the same with every character that is needed for the main quest line to progress.
Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:
Originally posted by Heuristicus:

Was that it? I just don't remember.
Yeah.
"With this character's death, the thread of prophecy is severed. Restore a saved game to restore the weave of fate, or persist in the doomed world you have created."

Based fellow morrowind enjoyer

Okay. Much better than what I said. :)
Oh god, how many times has this same thing been posted? For context, when referring to women he clarifies that his only experience of Bohemia is Sigismunds camp, it's a wonder why he thinks his people treat women better when he's surrounded by Cumens, murderers and rapists for hire.
Last edited by BingusDingus; Feb 16 @ 1:29am
Originally posted by BingusDingus:
Oh god, how many times has this same thing been posted? For context, when referring to women he clarifies that his only experience of Bohemia is Sigismunds camp, it's a wonder why he thinks his people treat women better when he's surrounded by Cumens, murderers and rapists for hire.
Historical accounts actually describe Mali as a place where women are free to go completely naked, even in front of nobility. What Musa describes isn't inaccurate, it's just that people take their modern day notions of Islamic societies and try to apply them to the past, as if culture and religion won't change across 600 years.
Haddon Feb 16 @ 4:27am 
Originally posted by ErbBetaPatched:
Originally posted by BingusDingus:
Oh god, how many times has this same thing been posted? For context, when referring to women he clarifies that his only experience of Bohemia is Sigismunds camp, it's a wonder why he thinks his people treat women better when he's surrounded by Cumens, murderers and rapists for hire.
Historical accounts actually describe Mali as a place where women are free to go completely naked, even in front of nobility. What Musa describes isn't inaccurate, it's just that people take their modern day notions of Islamic societies and try to apply them to the past, as if culture and religion won't change across 600 years.
It is remarkable how many times I've seen exactly this. Arguing that FGM was there...because it is today. Arguing that they lived in "mud huts" because Mali is poor today.
While at the same time completely missing the fact that none of them have a monarch (or if they do they are a figurehead), Duke or Emperor...none of them are part of the Holy Roman Empire...none of them live in Bohemia because it doesn't exist. None of them are knights, none of them are followers of Jan Hus, none of them have a liege, none of them are serfs...almost none of them are Catholics, and those that are definitely know Protestants...which of course didn't yet exist.
But these same people think that Islamic countries haven't shifted, and all schools of Islam are the same, and economic situations don't change. Mali had more wealth than the entire HRE, by FAR. They had a population that didn't just get cut in half 2 generations prior. They had universities that were teaching geography, astronomy, medicine and mathematics while Bohemia was still purely ecclesiastical in its universities. They had a trade network that stretched to India, while Bohemia was just coming out of being an economic backwater.
Mali understood vectors of disease, while European "doctors" were still drinking urine to diagnose disease, and people were thwacking themselves on the back with whips to atone for their sins so they wouldn't get The Black Death.
Last edited by Haddon; Feb 16 @ 4:30am
because he is involved in the main story later on in the game. so the same reason you cant pickpocket/kill katherine and other important npcs
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