Kingdom Come: Deliverance II
Bang Katherine after story ending?
So I just finished the main story, I can't continue banging Katherine after it? :skull_angry:
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Автор сообщения: Siameasy
i ain't putting anything anywhere near Katherine, she's worked in a whorehouse and banged hundreds of crusty peasants and cuman soldiers. Gonorrhea amd syphilis were a huge kliller in the middle ages.

At least Rosa is clean and has a bucket load of money and land/property :praisesun:
Rosa Felt like the more natural romantic choice between the two also. I felt railroaded into katherine and couldnt figure out why. At least with Rosa you could have married into nobility, katherine is just a ♥♥♥♥♥ in a bathhouse and the game at the end makes it out like you and katherine always had a 'thing'
Автор сообщения: Natural Born Crackhead
whatever soyboy
Yup, such dudes usually use similar language)
To make it short...
This is KCD2. Your Henry is still adventuring and has no plans of settling. Yet.
So called romances are pretty much one night stands and not very real, instead of minutes those can take hours. 😂

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOnUbmdxNro

It would be interesting if we had a list how many hours each sex encounter lasts.
Can someone help?
Автор сообщения: Siameasy
Gonorrhea amd syphilis were a huge kliller in the middle ages.

Syphillis was unknown in Henry's time. It was brought to Europe from the New World, aka Americas, by the returning sailors and soldiers. The first major outbreak was in 1490 something. Henry is 6 feet under by that time.
Автор сообщения: Mall Ninja
Syphillis was unknown in Henry's time. It was brought to Europe from the New World, aka Americas, by the returning sailors and soldiers. The first major outbreak was in 1490 something. Henry is 6 feet under by that time.
Sorry, but it's a myth. After history became a science in the 1970s - archeologists started to dig up medieval burials systematically, and many skeletons had syphilitic marks on the bones. The American treponema was just much more lethal than Euro-afro-asian, hence the epidemic is mentioned in sources.
Автор сообщения: makbthemf
Автор сообщения: Mall Ninja
Syphillis was unknown in Henry's time. It was brought to Europe from the New World, aka Americas, by the returning sailors and soldiers. The first major outbreak was in 1490 something. Henry is 6 feet under by that time.
Sorry, but it's a myth. After history became a science in the 1970s - archeologists started to dig up medieval burials systematically, and many skeletons had syphilitic marks on the bones. The American treponema was just much more lethal than Euro-afro-asian, hence the epidemic is mentioned in sources.

No, it is not a myth. But everything must be politically correct nowadays, so God forbid saying a major STD was imported into Europe from colonized lands.
History, anthropology and archeology were fully developed sciences way before 1970', like really way, way, WAY before. For example, egyptian hieroglyphs were translated in 1822. The first Neanderthal skeleton was found in 1829.

So no, there was no syphillis-like disease in Europe known or described before 1495 - at least by the symptoms. And i think something that puts large chancres on your genitals and eventually disfigures you, drives you insane and kills you, would be mentioned.
Отредактировано Mall Ninja; 26 фев в 9:53
The first recorded syphilis in Europe was 1494/95, and it was in Italy. Hal CANNOT get it in 1403 Bohemia.
Автор сообщения: Mall Ninja
No, it is not a myth. But everything must be politically correct nowadays, so God forbid saying a major STD was imported into Europe from colonized lands.
Here's a pretty old meta-study on the subject. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3413456/

Автор сообщения: Mall Ninja
History, anthropology and archeology were fully developed sciences way before 1970', like really way, way, WAY before. For example, egyptian hieroglyphs were translated in 1822. The first Neanderthal skeleton was found in 1829.
No they were not. Anthropology was basically a scientific racism until WW2. History started to adopt the scientific method only in the 1920s, and the process fully ended in the 1970s. Archeology is a part of history. For example, medicine has not adopted the scientific method in the whole world right now. ;-)

Автор сообщения: Mall Ninja
So no, there was no syphillis-like disease in Europe known or described before 1495 - at least by the symptoms. And i think something that puts large chancres on your genitals and eventually disfigures you, drives you insane and kills you, would be mentioned.
Google, what Gray Pox was) And its symptoms precisely)
Отредактировано makbthemf; 26 фев в 10:06
Автор сообщения: Hucks
At least with Rosa you could have married into nobility

Rosa's family is not noble. Wealthy merchant, burgher, precursor of a later "patricians" sub-class. In early 1400s burghers are still "laboratores".

Rosa tells Henry that marriage between them is impossible, because he is a peasant. If Henry's father recognized him as heir, or Jobst knighted him, then Henry would've become part of "bellatores" class and above Rose in status. Then this union would've been acceptable to Rose's father.
Автор сообщения: Mall Ninja
So no, there was no syphillis-like disease in Europe known or described before 1495 - at least by the symptoms. And i think something that puts large chancres on your genitals and eventually disfigures you, drives you insane and kills you, would be mentioned.
Google, what Gray Pox was) And its symptoms precisely) [/quote]

More recent studies show that the older skeletons originally thought to have had syphilis do not meet several criteria after all, including scarring to skulls. So, nope - Gray Pox wasn't "The French Pox." It was 1403-04 when it entered Europe.
Автор сообщения: MrMinMax
Rosa's family is not noble. Wealthy merchant, burgher, precursor of a later "patricians" sub-class. In early 1400s burghers are still "laboratores".
Kuntzlin has bought the Ritter of Meleshow title. He was never cashiered (in the plot at least), hence he is still a Ritter, and Roza is still a Ritter's daughter.

Автор сообщения: MrMinMax
Rosa tells Henry that marriage between them is impossible, because he is a peasant.
Roza tells Jindřich that their marriage is impossible because his father is stripped out of his titles by Sigismund. Also, Kuntzlin states, that he wants to marry Roza into the graff or baron family, to raise the importance of the Ruthard family.

Peasant is a profession - a person whose occupation is in agriculture. The unprivileged part of medieval society was called "laboratores" or "3rd estate" in medieval terms, and now they are called "commoners" in English. Merchants were de-jure the same laboratores as peasants, despite for them estate boarders were more loosy, than for peasants.

Автор сообщения: MrMinMax
If Henry's father recognized him as heir, or Jobst knighted him, then Henry would've become part of "bellatores" class and above Rose in status. Then this union would've been acceptable to Rose's father.
Racek Kobyla has already recognized Jindřich publically - everyone in the game from the Sassau region knows whose son he is. Don't mess up recognition and legitimization - it was different legal notions in Medieval law.
Автор сообщения: n0mad23
More recent studies show that the older skeletons originally thought to have had syphilis do not meet several criteria after all, including scarring to skulls. So, nope - Gray Pox wasn't "The French Pox." It was 1403-04 when it entered Europe.
I clearly stated above, that treponemas from the Americas and Euro-Afro-Asian space were different species of treponemas, hence clinical course of syphilises caused by those bacterias would differ.
Отредактировано makbthemf; 26 фев в 11:07
Автор сообщения: makbthemf
Kuntzlin has bought the Ritter of Meleshow title. He was never cashiered (in the plot at least), hence he is still a Ritter, and Roza is still a Ritter's daughter.

I missed that. I thought purchasing titles started in 18th century.

Why is he not using von or zu in front of his name? Because that was for only for hereditary nobility?
Автор сообщения: Siameasy
i ain't putting anything anywhere near Katherine, she's worked in a whorehouse and banged hundreds of crusty peasants and cuman soldiers. Gonorrhea amd syphilis were a huge kliller in the middle ages.

At least Rosa is clean and has a bucket load of money and land/property :praisesun:
Missed out on Rosa, was stressed getting to the main quest meeting, so I delivered the book too late I guess. Both quest sounded urgent, And you just know its gonna take alot of time once you start them.
Отредактировано freddebw2; 26 фев в 11:04
Автор сообщения: MrMinMax
I missed that. I thought purchasing titles started in 18th century.
Title sales started after the Crisis of Feudalism in the late 13 - early 14th century.

Автор сообщения: MrMinMax
Why is he not using von or zu in front of his name? Because that was for only for hereditary nobility?
"von" or "zu" means in German simply "from" and "of" and it was never used before the names. Only before the titles, or before surnames. For example Maximilian I was Emperor of the Roman Empire or Kaiser von Römisches Reich in German by title, and Maximilian von Habsburg by his name and surname. Titles are translated, but surnames - are not (at least now - in 15 centuries they were, hence Jindřich is Henry of Skalitz in English and Heinrich von Skalitz in German). Hence Kuntzlin in English localization is "Kuntzlin Ruthard, Lord of Meleshow" while in German he is "Kuntzlin Ruthard, Ritter von Meleshou".

UPD: Only in the modern era, those participles begun associated with nobility, and knighted as a reward person could add "zu" or "von" to his surname, even if his surname was "Muller" - miller in German) So strange families as "of Miller" became possible, but in reality, people were smart enough not to do so, if their surnames were not describing the location their family was originating. For example, both Reinhard Scheer and Franz Hipper were knighted for Jutland, but Scheer never used "von" or "zu" because his surname literally means "seer" but Hipper did, because his surname was geographically located.
Отредактировано makbthemf; 26 фев в 12:36
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