How enable DLSS4?

[waterdaca]

Can someone help me how I could activate DLSS4 in the game with 4060 Ti?
I read about a DLSS Swapper, NVIDIA app settings. What is the simplest and cleanest way to enable it?

Many thanks.

[insert food here]

I did it in Nvidia App. You need to manually add the KCD2 exe file as for me it did not show up by itself in the Nvidia App game list. Yours may be different.

After getting Kingdom Come Deliverance II into the game list click on it and go down to driver settings.

Click on DLSS Override - Model Presets. Click on edit icon and choose DLSS Super Resolution to use latest. This will be the DLSS4 Preset K transformer model. Click apply and you are done.

[waterdaca]

So no need for DLSS Swapper then? They refer to it on several forums, I don't know what to believe anymore.

[insert food here]

No there is no need for it. You only need DLSS Swapper or DLSS Tweaks etc if the game does not have support for it through the Nvidia App itself.

You can still use those other methods but if it is supported in Nvidia App for a game that is what i use.

[Nagashinio]

Originally posted by insert food here:

I did it in Nvidia App. You need to manually add the KCD2 exe file as for me it did not show up by itself in the Nvidia App game list. Yours may be different.

After getting Kingdom Come Deliverance II into the game list click on it and go down to driver settings.

Click on DLSS Override - Model Presets. Click on edit icon and choose DLSS Super Resolution to use latest. This will be the DLSS4 Preset K transformer model. Click apply and you are done.

i did a thing in Nvida App but i see no difference in fps

[insert food here]

Originally posted by Nagashinio:

i did a thing in Nvida App but i see no difference in fps

You probably won't. Likely you may see slightly less FPS compared to using the games DLSS3 version it shipped with depending on your PC. For me with a powerful PC it is a moot point so i am happy to use DLSS4 for the better image quality.

DLSS4 is about image quality. The transformer model is more intensive but gives better image quality compared to DLSS3 and especially older games that were still using DLSS2. So you will see less of an FPS uplift but have significantly less blurriness and ghosting when using it.

If you are more interested in getting extra FPS then using DLSS4 and using a lower resolution DLSS preset like balanced would be the way to go. Still decent image quality but more FPS gain. It Depends on the native res you are starting from though of course. I would not use balanced if you are running the game at 1080p.

[waterdaca]

Indeed. Perhaps the quality of the DLSS image is better (also DLSS native? DLAA). Performance is the same. I play quality/native, with a 4060 Ti on 2k.

[Jimara]

Originally posted by Nagashinio:

Originally posted by insert food here:

I did it in Nvidia App. You need to manually add the KCD2 exe file as for me it did not show up by itself in the Nvidia App game list. Yours may be different.

After getting Kingdom Come Deliverance II into the game list click on it and go down to driver settings.

Click on DLSS Override - Model Presets. Click on edit icon and choose DLSS Super Resolution to use latest. This will be the DLSS4 Preset K transformer model. Click apply and you are done.

i did a thing in Nvida App but i see no difference in fps

It's a visual quality upgrade, you can use performance mode and it looks like the old quality if you update to dlss4

[Hairy Mouse]

Originally posted by insert food here:

I did it in Nvidia App. You need to manually add the KCD2 exe file as for me it did not show up by itself in the Nvidia App game list. Yours may be different.

After getting Kingdom Come Deliverance II into the game list click on it and go down to driver settings.

Click on DLSS Override - Model Presets. Click on edit icon and choose DLSS Super Resolution to use latest. This will be the DLSS4 Preset K transformer model. Click apply and you are done.

HOW? I did that by adding the .exe in the Bin folder, but then it just shows up as KingdomCome.exe and a generic controller icon. When I click on it, in the settings window it just says "( ! ) Program doesn't support optimization" and there is nothing to select/change. I just wanted to manage the FPS cap. I can just open Nvidia control panel and select KCD2 from the dropdown menu and change the settings there, but not the Nvidia App.

This is exactly why I NEVER use the app, and only the control panel. Like more than half of my games don't show up or can't have anything changed. It's been like that since the old version and for my desktop and laptop.

[Rev]

they added dlss 4.0 into the game by default with the update, u dont need no nvidia app stuff or any overrides anymore

[Hairy Mouse]

Originally posted by waterdaca:

Can someone help me how I could activate DLSS4 in the game with 4060 Ti?
I read about a DLSS Swapper, NVIDIA app settings. What is the simplest and cleanest way to enable it?

Many thanks.

Press ESC to open the game menu, go to graphics settings, go to DLSS, and select transformer quality. Done. I have settings at ultra and res set to 4k, and when I use DLSS transformer model at quality level, it's literally better than native. Sharpening is set to 0 because anything above that is oversharpened and causes artifacts. The new DLSS is SICK!

Performance isn't as good, though. It's still better than native, but the old DLSS model gave better performance boost at equivalent settings. However, it looks like 20% better. So DLSS balanced transformer model is only SLIGHTLY worse than, or maybe even the same as the the older CNN model at quality level. So, when you look at it like that I suppose you can maybe even say the performance is BETTER, since the new model on the balanced profile still performs better than the old quality one, while having comparable visuals. Also, each profile has less if a jump in visuals. The old CNN model was pretty apparent which profile you were running on, but the new transformer model shows less of a difference between quality to performance modes, especially when running higher native resolution input.

Honestly, you can probably get 1440p@120 with high settings if you use transformer balanced and framgen and have the game actually looking and feeling really nice on a 4060.

[waterdaca]

Originally posted by Hairy Mouse:

Originally posted by waterdaca:

Can someone help me how I could activate DLSS4 in the game with 4060 Ti?
I read about a DLSS Swapper, NVIDIA app settings. What is the simplest and cleanest way to enable it?

Many thanks.

Press ESC to open the game menu, go to graphics settings, go to DLSS, and select transformer quality. Done. I have settings at ultra and res set to 4k, and when I use DLSS transformer model at quality level, it's literally better than native. Sharpening is set to 0 because anything above that is oversharpened and causes artifacts. The new DLSS is SICK!

Performance isn't as good, though. It's still better than native, but the old DLSS model gave better performance boost at equivalent settings. However, it looks like 20% better. So DLSS balanced transformer model is only SLIGHTLY worse than, or maybe even the same as the the older CNN model at quality level. So, when you look at it like that I suppose you can maybe even say the performance is BETTER, since the new model on the balanced profile still performs better than the old quality one, while having comparable visuals. Also, each profile has less if a jump in visuals. The old CNN model was pretty apparent which profile you were running on, but the new transformer model shows less of a difference between quality to performance modes, especially when running higher native resolution input.

Honestly, you can probably get 1440p@120 with high settings if you use transformer balanced and framgen and have the game actually looking and feeling really nice on a 4060.

Quality better than native? Are you sure? :D Quality about 60% res compare to native 100%

[Hairy Mouse]

Originally posted by waterdaca:

Originally posted by Hairy Mouse:

Press ESC to open the game menu, go to graphics settings, go to DLSS, and select transformer quality. Done. I have settings at ultra and res set to 4k, and when I use DLSS transformer model at quality level, it's literally better than native. Sharpening is set to 0 because anything above that is oversharpened and causes artifacts. The new DLSS is SICK!

Performance isn't as good, though. It's still better than native, but the old DLSS model gave better performance boost at equivalent settings. However, it looks like 20% better. So DLSS balanced transformer model is only SLIGHTLY worse than, or maybe even the same as the the older CNN model at quality level. So, when you look at it like that I suppose you can maybe even say the performance is BETTER, since the new model on the balanced profile still performs better than the old quality one, while having comparable visuals. Also, each profile has less if a jump in visuals. The old CNN model was pretty apparent which profile you were running on, but the new transformer model shows less of a difference between quality to performance modes, especially when running higher native resolution input.

Honestly, you can probably get 1440p@120 with high settings if you use transformer balanced and framgen and have the game actually looking and feeling really nice on a 4060.

Quality better than native? Are you sure? :D Quality about 60% res compare to native 100%

Yeah, native usually still has aliasing artifacts like "jaggies" or "staircase effect" so while it's crisp it's often distracting. AA methods that smooth the picture may cause softening that degrades the clarity but still looks more natural to the eye overall. Unless supersampling the image which takes an insane performance toll but offers the best image. With DLSS quality transformer model, the image is equal in sharpness/clarity with native, or 99% as good, but also clears up those jagged edges giving you the benefits of both a native image and anti-aliased image in one, while having superior performance to a native image alone. So, DLSS quality transformer is not only like having a supersampled image but getting it at REDUCED performance cost. Def better than just a native image. It's actually so crisp and clear that setting the sharpening to anything but 0 results in an unnatural or OVERLY sharp looking image.

[waterdaca]

Originally posted by Hairy Mouse:

Originally posted by waterdaca:

Quality better than native? Are you sure? :D Quality about 60% res compare to native 100%

Yeah, native usually still has aliasing artifacts like "jaggies" or "staircase effect" so while it's crisp it's often distracting. AA methods that smooth the picture may cause softening that degrades the clarity but still looks more natural to the eye overall. Unless supersampling the image which takes an insane performance toll but offers the best image. With DLSS quality transformer model, the image is equal in sharpness/clarity with native, or 99% as good, but also clears up those jagged edges giving you the benefits of both a native image and anti-aliased image in one, while having superior performance to a native image alone. So, DLSS quality transformer is not only like having a supersampled image but getting it at REDUCED performance cost. Def better than just a native image. It's actually so crisp and clear that setting the sharpening to anything but 0 results in an unnatural or OVERLY sharp looking image.

From this it seems to me that it is mostly worth switching from native only because of the performance. However, I am sure that DLSS4 improved the image quality, not the performance. The Quality got closer to native, but it is not the real thing.
I tested a lot, and I still found the native resolution sharper and clearer.
I will add that the quality has improved a lot, and there may be a game where it will be more worthwhile to invest in it.
However, this is typically a game where 40-50 fps is completely sufficient.