Jan of Lesztin - unbeatable somehow?

[Slash87]

Hi, I don't understand this fight - I've checked online and everyone is mostly complaining that fight is too easy. I don't get it, because I'm having the opposite problem.
Maybe my level is too low (19. I think, 23 for the slash weapons or how is it in english), but I don't think so. Every fight so far has been easy, but this one is taking me now over an hour.

I gave up beating him with hunting sword - longest attempt took 20+ minutes during which I gave him maybe 50 or more master strikes. HOW MANY ARE NEEDED!! At that point I gave up and now I'm trying mace (which I haven't used at all until this point, so I don't have it leveled up), but same result so far .. especially since it's much easier for him to hit me when using mace and 1 hit = instant lose.

I just don't get it. Is it a bug? Has it somehow changed with the new patch? What am I doing wrong?

[Frostey 101]

same thing for me, spent like 25 minutes master striking him and his armor even turned rusty but not one drop of blood on him. I gave up..

[fc]

I just met him today.

With his armor on, he is very resilient (as in, I do not think I met a more resilient opponent in the game yet, especially as if he manages to hit you once, he basically wins the duel).
It gets kind of boring chaining masterstrike after masterstrike, so a charged attack here and there also helps a bit, but after a few minutes he did concede (though my swordsmanship is at 30 and my level around 25+ I think, so I guess if you have a lower skill with fewer perks, this can get really awful).

Without his armor (which requires a speech high enough - I also have 30), one masterstrike and the duel is over (and hopefully he does not die, such as with a well placed opener with a mace or an axe).

I initially started with an axe but between unwittingly killing him or getting wrecked, I went back to take a hunting sword stored in my chest, that I had to craft for a blacksmith competition (named competition sword or something), which was "henry's crafted", so also helped the damage output a bit compared to a basic hunting sword regarding the armored fight.

[tamam]

Just finished this duel.

I used horseman's pick with strong bane poison effect. I hit him on the head for one strike and won the duel.

And after the duel, he died after chatting with me for several sentences (I guess it was because of the poison on my weapon....)

[Schnell_Scheisse]

I'm having the same problem of not being able to win this duel even after master striking more than 20 times with the hunting sword.

It looks like it could be a bug...

[fight7494]

Well he pissed me off so I murdered him after winning hopefully he isn't important

[fight7494]

Originally posted by Schnell_Scheisse:

I'm having the same problem of not being able to win this duel even after master striking more than 20 times with the hunting sword.

It looks like it could be a bug...

I used the the battle 2 cry perk to deal extra damage and one good hit on his head after a master strike 1 shot him

[Tenchuu Khan]

Beer just came out of my nose.... WHAT?

Dude is super random but you gotta be really, really bad not be able to beat him :D

Issue with all combat in the game, unfortunately is that it doesn't take the first input so during any quest combat you get instantly attacked and the block button doesn't even work yet. It's super ♥♥♥♥

It sucks, and it's annoying - but wear some plate and it compensates it

[Schnell_Scheisse]

Okay I just managed to win by using a mace and one hitted him over the head with it.

I don't know if using the hunting sword makes him unbeatable .

[Cpt Beefheart]

Took a lot of tries. For me, masterstrikes didn't do anything, i hit him like 20 times without any sign of slowing him down...But when I tried to only use dodge and normal strikes, i finally got him. I'm mentioning dodge, because that reduced the chance of him just one shoting me.

[Tenchuu Khan]

Originally posted by Schnell_Scheisse:

Okay I just managed to win by using a mace and one hitted him over the head with it.

I don't know if using the hunting sword makes him unbeatable .

The issue with the hunting sword is that it doesn't do crap against armour - how could it - you'll be up against a seemingly unbeatable opponent with that crap.

So, yea, blunt damage fixes it - unfortunately KCD2 did a really bad job in promoting those weapons.

Once you get a proper sword, it's tremendously effective even against armour, which, in my book, kinda sucks as it takes away the necessity of other weapons

[Cpt Beefheart]

Originally posted by Tenchuu Khan:

Beer just came out of my nose.... WHAT?

Dude is super random but you gotta be really, really bad not be able to beat him :D

Issue with all combat in the game, unfortunately is that it doesn't take the first input so during any quest combat you get instantly attacked and the block button doesn't even work yet. It's super ♥♥♥♥

It sucks, and it's annoying - but wear some plate and it compensates it

You can't use plate when fighting Jan of Lesztin. And considering that for some players, he is immune to master strikes (due to a bug probably), and he can win the duel by masterstriking you one or two times. So no, he ain't super easy.
Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about.

[Tenchuu Khan]

Originally posted by Cpt Beefheart:

Originally posted by Tenchuu Khan:

Beer just came out of my nose.... WHAT?

Dude is super random but you gotta be really, really bad not be able to beat him :D

Issue with all combat in the game, unfortunately is that it doesn't take the first input so during any quest combat you get instantly attacked and the block button doesn't even work yet. It's super ♥♥♥♥

It sucks, and it's annoying - but wear some plate and it compensates it

You can't use plate when fighting Jan of Lesztin. And considering that for some players, he is immune to master strikes (due to a bug probably), and he can win the duel by masterstriking you one or two times. So no, he ain't super easy.
Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about.

As said, it's a bug that isn't only there - the first input fks up a lot of duels - wedding duels for instance were annoying AF - because they can instantly attack you and you need to hit an input first which is totally ignored, sorta having to unstuck first before actually being able to fight.

No duel is ever hard in either games

[SmugglinPunkins]

Same issue for me. So frustrating.

[Bugs]

If you have problem same as me with killing him all the time by hunting sword/sabre use mace, just managed to defeat him without killing. Also use Saviour Schnapss before fight to save travel time.

[aquila]

Just managed that guy after 1 hour of trying, holy smokes. legit thought it was bugged, turns out you just dont bother with master striking, just go into the clinch over and over until you hit him in the face. he cant master strike you back with this approach and you can alway block counter if you lose the clinch. hit him twice in the face and he gives up.