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Glimsharp Mar 13 @ 4:37pm
Hard coded Keybind to NumPad in New Patch???
WHY!??

Left Hander here...
I use arrow keys to move and NumPad keys for other quick uses!
Since the new patch, the NumPad Keys are now "hard coded" and cannot be used without conflict!
It worked PERFECT before the patch.
Now when I sprint, I draw my Bow!

Go to options and it won't let me rebind the NumPad keys...
I really do not understand why Companies lock keys from users, especially when it was working PERFECTLY before!!!!

PLEASE release a HOT FIX to allow us to CHOOSE - thank you.

*SIGH*
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martin.utikal Mar 13 @ 4:51pm 
Yeah noticed it too, I have afterburner overlay on num1 and now everytime I want to bring it up I draw my sword ... why the ♥♥♥♥ would somehow even change that and then ♥♥♥♥♥♥ lock it out lol??

The patch is terrible all around, reverting back to previous version untill they fix it
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martin77 Mar 13 @ 4:59pm 
Originally posted by martin77:
Dear warhorse do you have left handers in your team?
How they play the game with mouse/keyboard after the 1.2 pach?

i have the mouse on the left side and play with the arrow keys.
many important keys i lay around them.
important things like jump, running, blocking, crouch and so on.
(strg, shift, end, page down and the NUM PAD KEYS are in use)

i block with num0 and crouch with num1.

So WHY hardcode them???
i must reconfigure many important keys now due to this :(
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Glimsharp Mar 13 @ 5:31pm 
I think I will revert back to the older version too...
This Game is amazing and I was really enjoying it!

I am still at a loss why they would hard code keys that were not hard coded before!

??
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curlyburns07 Mar 13 @ 8:12pm 
Obviously, ideally this wouldn't be necessary, but I actually have a workaround for this.

If you're savvy enough, you can edit the file at "%userprofile%\Saved Games\kingdomcome2\profiles\default\attributes.xml" to set those actions back to only using the standard number keys, instead of those and the numpad keys.

You'll have to update the Attr node with name="keybinds_settings".

As an example, below is what I added to set the Quick Chat and Quick Action Menu controls back to only using the standard number keys. You can copy/paste the below as-is near the end of the "keybind_settings" line, immediately before "&lt;/keybinds&gt;&#10;" to do the same. I'd say make a backup of the attributes.xml before you go meddling with it, in case you bork something.

&lt;superaction name=&quot;chat_first&quot; controller=&quot;keyboard&quot;&gt;&#10; &lt;control input=&quot;1&quot; slot=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&#10; &lt;/superaction&gt;&#10; &lt;superaction name=&quot;chat_second&quot; controller=&quot;keyboard&quot;&gt;&#10; &lt;control input=&quot;2&quot; slot=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&#10; &lt;/superaction&gt;&#10; &lt;superaction name=&quot;chat_third&quot; controller=&quot;keyboard&quot;&gt;&#10; &lt;control input=&quot;3&quot; slot=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&#10; &lt;/superaction&gt;&#10; &lt;superaction name=&quot;chat_fourth&quot; controller=&quot;keyboard&quot;&gt;&#10; &lt;control input=&quot;4&quot; slot=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&#10; &lt;/superaction&gt;&#10; &lt;superaction name=&quot;qam_1&quot; controller=&quot;keyboard&quot;&gt;&#10; &lt;control input=&quot;1&quot; slot=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&#10; &lt;/superaction&gt;&#10; &lt;superaction name=&quot;qam_2&quot; controller=&quot;keyboard&quot;&gt;&#10; &lt;control input=&quot;2&quot; slot=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&#10; &lt;/superaction&gt;&#10; &lt;superaction name=&quot;qam_3&quot; controller=&quot;keyboard&quot;&gt;&#10; &lt;control input=&quot;3&quot; slot=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&#10; &lt;/superaction&gt;&#10; &lt;superaction name=&quot;qam_4&quot; controller=&quot;keyboard&quot;&gt;&#10; &lt;control input=&quot;4&quot; slot=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&#10; &lt;/superaction&gt;&#10; &lt;superaction name=&quot;qam_5&quot; controller=&quot;keyboard&quot;&gt;&#10; &lt;control input=&quot;5&quot; slot=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&#10; &lt;/superaction&gt;&#10; &lt;superaction name=&quot;qam_6&quot; controller=&quot;keyboard&quot;&gt;&#10; &lt;control input=&quot;6&quot; slot=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&#10; &lt;/superaction&gt;&#10; &lt;superaction name=&quot;qam_7&quot; controller=&quot;keyboard&quot;&gt;&#10; &lt;control input=&quot;7&quot; slot=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&#10; &lt;/superaction&gt;&#10; &lt;superaction name=&quot;qam_8&quot; controller=&quot;keyboard&quot;&gt;&#10; &lt;control input=&quot;8&quot; slot=&quot;0&quot; /&gt;&#10; &lt;/superaction&gt;&#10;
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Glimsharp Mar 14 @ 2:30am 
Thanks for the workaround, however, that looks rather complicated!
This weekend, the Wife is away for 2 days and it would have been the perfect time to spend some quality time in KCD2! :p

Now, I feel less inclined to play, so I guess I'll have to do Housework and other chores in the real world!
Hehe! :D
(Happy Wife = Happy Life!?)

Seriously though, no idea why they thought hard coding keys is a good idea... :(
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curlyburns07 Mar 14 @ 6:02am 
I feel that.

I felt bad for poor Mutt. I have petting him mapped to numpad1, so I got right in his face and then drew my sword on him. :,-(
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Elven Arrow Mar 14 @ 6:05am 
Man who usees keyboard with numpad in 2025?
#7
Glimsharp Mar 14 @ 6:17am 
I use Keyboard with NumPad in 2025 (obviously!)
I don't get on with Controllers & my preference is Keyboard and Mouse.
As I am left handed, I use the arrow keys and numpad.

Happy to explain it for you Elven Arrow.

Patch 1.2.1 didn't fix the Hard Coded issue...
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curlyburns07 Mar 14 @ 11:21am 
Originally posted by Elven Arrow:
Man who usees keyboard with numpad in 2025?

I use a 60% keyboard and an mmo mouse. I map the mouse side buttons to the numpad keys, precisely because my keyboard doesn't even have them and it feels natural to my brain.

mouse1=numpad1
mouse5=numpad5
etc
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Glyrion Mar 14 @ 11:34am 
Originally posted by Elven Arrow:
Man who usees keyboard with numpad in 2025?
Every single left handers use it...this has been a problem for many games (stalker!)
#10
metzi Mar 14 @ 11:46am 
wtf, I just noticed that too...
please undo this crap! :steamsad:
#11
Actalo Mar 14 @ 11:51am 
This is what I use.

https://www.nexusmods.com/kingdomcomedeliverance2/mods/423
#12
martin77 Mar 14 @ 11:55am 
Originally posted by Elven Arrow:
Man who usees keyboard with numpad in 2025?

are u left handed??
#13
yonder Mar 14 @ 1:23pm 
Keybindings should *NEVER* be hardcoded. To me, that is a design sin up there with "unskippable cutscene right before a boss" and "motion blur always on"
Honestly... it's worse.
It's a terrible, horrific design.

As for me, I have NumPad bound to my mouse thumb buttons. I use DFGV cuz WASD is stupid, but that's a whole other thing. I usually rebind EVERYTHING. The whole entire point of a good keybind config is that you should be able to use your movement keys *AND* be able to use a key that you need to use while moving. My pinky is free to use 10-15 keys on the far left of the keyboard, and I have another half dozen on the side of my mouse (in addition to the 3 standard mouse buttons).

Interact, consume, draw weapon, sheath weapon, chat, lower visor, and a dozen other things SHOULD be doable while moving (most of those you don't usually need, but it's better to have the option). So many games that I play with friends, I see them STOP moving in order to do something. Cuz they use default keybinding configs. Which means they have to move their entire hand.

That's terrible design.

But we've been stuck w/ it for 30 years since Quake 2 formalized WASD because of one person's terrible preference.

That being said... FORCING us to NOT be able to use dozens of keys (yes, it is multiple dozens at this point) is TERRIBLE.

This is an amazing game and I love it and I'm 150 hours in. But this UX design is beyond offensive. I would LOVE to ask the person who was ultimately responsible for this decision why they, seemingly, had absolutely no variety in their game testers in terms of preferred control scheme.

It's *FINE* to have default to WASD. You have a very predictable consumer base. But don't EVER force ANY keybinding on your gamers.

It was bad enough that I had to setup a new mouse profile to get around the initial offensively large set of hardcoded keybinds. But now I have to go back and redo it because they INCREASED the restrictions?

Utterly terrible.

Love the game, but this is one of the biggest game interface designs I've ever seen in my entire gaming life, and I'm being literal. This level of terrible decision happens once a decade.

Please... Warhorse... stop intentionally crippling us.
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MrGreen Mar 15 @ 4:18am 
@warhorsestudios

Stupidest customization I have ever experienced, who comes up with such nonsense and hardcodes the number field?

The biggest piece of crap that makes the game almost unplayable for me and takes all the fun out of it.
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