I still think Kingdom Come Deliverance 1 is a better game

[Valandil]

So after playing through KCD 2, getting pretty much everything he could want, seeing every inch of the maps and taking on all the quests, getting every skill to max, I'm going back to play KCD 1

It was...alright, but I just don't feel like I want to play any of it again and it looks like no-matter HOW I decide to do it the endings are about the same, little snippets of dialogue here and there to acknowledge what I'd decided to do just aren't enough to make a new run unique.
In the end I think the gameplay in KCD 1 was better, the attention they put into the places and the people especially Henry made them more interesting, I had more control over what my idea of Henry should be and the overall feel of the game was more mature, but maybe they meant for KCD 2 to be a lot lighter, it felt almost meant for a much younger audience.

So yeah great game just not one I think I want to play again, might get back to it if they start adding full DLCs (not just a barber ), I'm curious what everyone else thinks?

[Thanatos]

outside of many of the tweaks and better graphics generally i agree. i find myself skipping alot of dialog in this where in the first i tended not to cut them off and actually listen to the voice actors. Horses are kinda ♥♥♥♥ in both though which is insane for a company that calls themselves warhorse. Mount and blade has better horse combat.

[wjpower2003]

I like KCD2 but I agree that KCD1 is better in many ways, especially relating to narrative, dialogue and cut scene rationing.

KCD2 feels far too much like an animated movie in which the player is occasionally allowed to participate and a lot of the dialogue (although undoubtedly immersive) seems needless and not plot-relevant.

Although this is an uncommon opinion, I think the one thing that's an improvement gameplay-wise is combat.... but that's probably because I only play with an Xbox for Windows controller and KCD2's setup seems more intuitive for melee combat than it was in KCD1.

That being said, I did have to use a mod to disable the photo-mode activation on the controller. I pity anybody who bought this game on Xbox, considering that the game doesn't support modding on consoles.

[Decay]

KCD 1 does nothing better than KCD 2; so I can't say anything other than enjoy KCD 1 if you like it better, but it doesn't do anything objectively better than KCD 2. Combat wise, KCD 2 is just straight up more refined, more weapon types, more combos, more armor, KCD 2 also addresses the biggest problem with KCD 1, in that its just constant perfect block spamming to win any fights. More quests that are arguably way funnier than any quest from KCD 1 with exception of Father Godwin's drunken escapade.

[theo]

Yeah KCD2 is more targeted at normies. Warhorse also took notice of what kind of stuff in KCD1 became a meme (getting drunk with Godwin for example), and cranked it up to 11 in KCD2 to the point that it's total cringe. All the degeneracy happening on screen quickly stops being funny

[theo]

Originally posted by Decay:

KCD 1 does nothing better than KCD 2; so I can't say anything other than enjoy KCD 1 if you like it better, but it doesn't do anything objectively better than KCD 2. Combat wise, KCD 2 is just straight up more refined, more weapon types, more combos, more armor, KCD 2 also addresses the biggest problem with KCD 1, in that its just constant perfect block spamming to win any fights. More quests that are arguably way funnier than any quest from KCD 1 with exception of Father Godwin's drunken escapade.

Nothing can be "objectively better" in general, it's always better for who or what goals

[makbthemf]

I will sign under every word)

[WastedTrojan]

The only things that KCD2 improved are visuals and QOL features. KCD1 has a better story, better characters, a better world, nothing breaks historic accuracy, nothing unbelievable was forced into it.

KCD1 - 9.5/10
KCD2 - 7.5/10

[Dylan]

If KCD 2 mechanics were placed into KCD1 then I would agree but story can't fix frustration from lack of polish. People complain about the fighting in this game if they only knew there was no real way to tell if you were blocking or not before someone threw a punch or swung a sword they would probably quit XD

[theo]

Originally posted by DylanCut:

If KCD 2 mechanics were placed into KCD1 then I would agree but story can't fix frustration from lack of polish.

Adder (the pole) was super annoying so I appreciate the lack of Polish in KCD1.
The only thing I wish was in KCD1 is horse riding mechanics

[emreyigit1967]

Different horses for different courses. What is there to argue about?

[Valandil]

Originally posted by emreyigit1967:

Different horses for different courses. What is there to argue about?

No-one's arguing this all about opinions from people who've finished playing a pretty good game

[jrc]

Maybe. Don't know why there's such an issue with Polish, though. I Agree with OP... game is somehow not as good as first release. Something has been added that didn't need to be; something has been left out that needed to be in. Still, even with some bugs and area issues, the terrain team did a hell of a job, right?

[Actalo]

I don't even understand how anyone could look at both games objectively and comes away believing the first one is better. KCD2 is KCD, but improved in so many ways.

- NPC schedules are better, more varied, and more realistic.
- Random encounters are so much better, and allow much more choice.
- Mini-games improved: alchemy is better, more intuitive, and we got Blacksmithing!
- Story is better: The parallels to Istvan, Henry, Eric, Markvart, the characters are so much more fleshed out and realistically layered in their motivations.
- The choices Henry in KCD2 makes are way more impactful than KCD,
- Combat, though streamlined, and in my opinion 'dumbed down', is objectively smoother, with unique combos and animations for each weapon type - and crossbows and guns and polearms!

I could spend a lot more time explaining how much better KCD2 is than KCD, but I think this whole thread is disingenuous. You don't like the game for unspoken reasons. I don't like certain narrative choices and will eventually mod them out, if no one else does - but KCD2 is still better.

[wjpower2003]

Originally posted by jrc:

Maybe. Don't know why there's such an issue with Polish, though. I Agree with OP... game is somehow not as good as first release. Something has been added that didn't need to be; something has been left out that needed to be in. Still, even with some bugs and area issues, the terrain team did a hell of a job, right?

Agreed. The game is visually, a thing of beauty. It's just a pity about the writing though.

[Psycho_Soyer]

Originally posted by Thanatos:

outside of many of the tweaks and better graphics generally i agree. i find myself skipping alot of dialog in this where in the first i tended not to cut them off and actually listen to the voice actors. Horses are kinda ♥♥♥♥ in both though which is insane for a company that calls themselves warhorse. Mount and blade has better horse combat.

Red Dead Redemption 2 over-all others when it comes to horses and its not even close.
We were spoiled by RDR2 when it comes to wild life. Can it get any better?