Survey on which is better, KCD1 or KCD2?

[Antiriad]

Put KCD1 or KCD2 as your answer.

Rules: You must have played both to answer.

[amazingbeavis]

I must be the only person in the world who enjoyed the monastery

[makbthemf]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από zeanomourph:

For real bro, like actual days (in game) worth of performing a mind-numbingly boring chore-filled routine, versus like 15-20 minutes sneaking through a forest past some guards. It's no comparison, I can't believe the amount of whinge people are throwing at Storm (and the preceding internment in Trosy castle). I thought it was a pretty cool mission that broke the monotony of the game. Unlike monastery which was just horrendously boring.

How on earth, the monastery mission could be boring and the whole game not? It has the same pace that most activities in the game - training with Bernard, most investigation quests in the game, alchemy, Tereza side-quest, e.t.c. And the first two examples are mandatory to beat the game without cheats.

[makbthemf]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από amazingbeavis:

I must be the only person in the world who enjoyed the monastery

Me too. Best quest in the game. And because KCD1 is the best game ever produced - in the whole game industry.

[meowczar]

well im glad someone liked it. it obviously took a lot of work

[Bricky]

like em both but kcd2 is better, although 2 seems to have more modern slang/way of speaking sometimes

[makbthemf]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από catcat:

well im glad someone liked it. it obviously took a lot of work

Bro, it's the most immersive and metaphorical mission in the whole game - nothing is speeding up Jindro, he could just live every day in the serenity of monastery life. And it's the last time he would be serene for next several month (or even more) - after the monastery mission he would became a warrior and the next bifurcation point we haven't even seen yet - maybe after third part of Kingdome Come franchise we would have a real option to discharge the service and live in Prbyslavitsa with Teresa.

UPD: the only bum in that mission is the absence of shortcut gameover - no option to become a monk forever.

[Dansoprazole]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από makbthemf:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από catcat:

well im glad someone liked it. it obviously took a lot of work

Bro, it's the most immersive and metaphorical mission in the whole game - nothing is speeding up Jindro, he could just live every day in the serenity of monastery life. And it's the last time he would be serene for next several month (or even more) - after the monastery mission he would became a warrior and the next bifurcation point we haven't even seen yet - maybe after third part of Kingdome Come franchise we would have a real option to discharge the service and live in Prbyslavitsa with Teresa.

UPD: the only bum in that mission is the absence of shortcut gameover - no option to become a monk forever.

Lmao, this guy wants to do nothing but silently eat stew every morning and copy manuscripts until the end of time....

[makbthemf]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Dansoprazole:

Lmao, this guy wants to do nothing but silently eat stew every morning and copy manuscripts until the end of time....

Lmao, this guy thinks that the best way to show the hesitations between warriors' and peaceful path in life is bad written dialogue at the end of the KCD2.

[Dansoprazole]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από makbthemf:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Dansoprazole:

Lmao, this guy wants to do nothing but silently eat stew every morning and copy manuscripts until the end of time....

Lmao, this guy thinks that the best way to show the hesitations between warriors' and peaceful path in life is bad written dialogue at the end of the KCD2.

Nah, that ending was bullsh*t. Nothing substantive is gained by talking to your hallucination of Martin, and the loose ends aren't sufficiently tied for me to be cool with this being the end of Henry's story (unless there's a dope DLC or third game in the works, just saying you can rebuild Skalitz, settle down with Katherine/Theresa isn't enough).

[Drakkar]

KC1 def wins..Monastery . the amourous adventures of Sir Capon and for me..rebuild the village at the end was feeling so great give my Peoples a Home again and see them Prosper, dlcs kc 2 could be dissapoint-just rebuild a forge (just not when its real big with helpers and such stuff) -some smaller version proberlbyl of monastery and somne jesker questline..the story telling of kc2 is..not the best..the second maps fells total empty in my opinion big .beautifu yes l but..empty

[alex010300]

KCD1, it has little to no bugs.

[Parejnok]

KCD2, it offers better sandbox experience, especially at the beginning. KCD1 main quest was way too intrusive to let you freely explore. But to be fair I find sidequest at KDC1 better owerall, especially Kutenberg map is kinda weaker in this regard. But everything else is a great improvement over the first one.

[makbthemf]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Dansoprazole:

Nah, that ending was bullsh*t. Nothing substantive is gained by talking to your hallucination of Martin, and the loose ends aren't sufficiently tied for me to be cool with this being the end of Henry's story (unless there's a dope DLC or third game in the works, just saying you can rebuild Skalitz, settle down with Katherine/Theresa isn't enough).

So, you don't like gameplay metaphor of such choice (monastery in KCD1), and you don't like dialogue based depiction of such choice (ending of KCD2). Hence you don't like the main idea of KCD dilogy. Then why do you care about the game, and are active in this community? Or you have your own vision, how the main idea of the games should be depicted? I would love to hear.

[anmana]

For me KCD 1 is a richer experiment. Not only because of years of patches and Addons but because it was pure, non bloated and it was not trying to appeal for a broader audience. It was just that, medievil without fantasy elements which was not new but something else in 2018.
Combat though (Herny got Masterstriked be everthing; dogs) wasn´t nice, they did better in KCD 2 as well as graphicwise but then again they wanted to appeal to a much broader audience (nothing wrong with that) and with that they lost something in the way. To many ideas, much more bloated with everything.

KCD 2 bored me to be honest. The game is at the moment not able to convince me staying in for hours and hours which the first part definetly did without a question. And I played the buggy mess right from the start and am still playing.
KCD 2 wants to be funny, it wants to be correct in many ways of modern society and that don´t goes well with me because of KCD 1 (if it was something like Baldurs Gate no one would have even noticed or more, would have been angry in the first place). Remember the "Code of Conduct" here?
Regardless of that there are many improvements in the second part like better hitboxes for herbpicking, usefull skills, a mechanic for Henry not getting Masterstriked, the Wardrobe, smithing, getting hanged if...but then again they added quicktime events, changes in potions making (and the font used in the book are just bad, imo), a less responsve horse (in KCD 1 while you mount the horse you can already get it start running - not unrealistic) and a dumbed down combat which is much less realistic (as if in reallife in a 4 vs 1 one only have to fight one...nope. You know what you are doing or you get smashed, harsh, unfair, realistic), questdesigne is lacking or just less interesting for me.

I will give KCD 2 another shot as soon as DLCs and patches are out but overall KCD 1 has just more essence whereas KCD 2 is to bloated and wants to please a bigger audience which they didn´t with the first part in my opinion.

[Free Luigi M.]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από makbthemf:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Gigantoad:

How is this even a debate? Fascinating.

Many KCD1 fans here and in other topics consider KCD2 much worse than KCD1. Hence, yup, it's quite debatable.

I assure you, nobody who argues KCD1 is better than 2 was ever a real KCD fan.
Pretty much all of them do it for ideological reasons.