These forums are a mess

[CaraCentral]

Hans Capon is an ADULT. yall didn't say ♥♥♥♥ when he was having sex with women, but the moment he's bisexual yall "anti-woke" losers decide it's an issue. He is BASED ON a character that MAY HAVE BEEN 15 at the time (ignoring the fact that by the point the game takes place the main antagonist would've been dead) and irl that person had a child at 16. Yall cry historical accuracy and ignore that many MANY historical nobles had same-sex relationships. Yall are weird as hell.

[g0rml3ss]

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[Grubbs008]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย g0rml3ss:

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Well, he's correct, and you're entitled to your wrong opinion.

[CaraCentral]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย g0rml3ss:

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Clearly annoyed you've been called out for your pathetic nonsense

[Reztrow]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย g0rml3ss:

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he's not wrong, but maybe stop talking about yourself.

[Ys]

People who push it, know it. They just don’t care if they are lying if they can spread their gay=pedo ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Somehow no one ever falsely assumed that ingame characters were exactly the same as their historical inspirations until it could be used to attack gay romance.

[_Patrick Swayze]

Gay sex goes back way further than this game and wasn't uncommon. What's less well-remembered is that, during his younger years, Julius Caesar was widely thought to have been involved in a passionate romance with another man. And not just any man: his squeeze was said to have been King Nicomedes IV of Bithynia, an ancient kingdom located in modern-day Turkey.

Better known to history as the penetrated than the penetrator, sexually speaking Caesar was both.

[Aasimar[GER]]

Hans is not an Adault in this time period... thats why Hanush still adminsters his fief
hes a boy comming of age and screwing around
and iam fine with that (the real Hans=Jan died 1419 at age 31)
tho in the game it is never said that its because of age.. rather its because hes childish

If by antagonist you mean von Aulitz, he died 1402 at the siege of Prag
so 1 year befor the game

The same sex stuff between Heinrich and Hans? i dont like it, because "puff" it fell from the sky or what? And because it just dosnt feal right after KCD1 and all his fraking around.
it feals more like a checklist for people who like that stuff..
But you can skip it with just taking the other option and dont bother anymore

[MrMinMax]

Nobles could get married at 13 and sometimes went to war at that age. The age of 16 was considered an adulthood. You had to have 3-4 kids by the age of 25 to hedge your bets on continuing your line.

The point that Hans was not recognized as an adult historically and in the game is a sign if his immaturity and being not fit for his duties.

The actor and his 3d model in the game is not 15, FFS. More like 30. And while I personally don't like the option for Henry and Hans to become turd burglars, the game is good and I can avoid it entirely.

[CaraCentral]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย MrMinMax:

Nobles could get married at 13 and sometimes went to war at that age. The age of 16 was considered an adulthood. You had to have 3-4 kids by the age of 25 to hedge your bets on continuing your line.

The point that Hans was not recognized as an adult historically and in the game is a sign if his immaturity and being not fit for his duties.

The actor and his 3d model in the game is not 15, FFS. More like 30. And while I personally don't like the option for Henry and Hans to become turd burglars, the game is good and I can avoid it entirely.

And yet henry is 27 in the events of the game, despite this he doesn't seem to have any desire for children, and it isn't seen as taboo. Clearly artistic liberties were taken (again, main antagonist was DEAD irl in this period of time), and thus hans is ROUGHLY in his late twenties. nowhere near 15, yall are weird. Stop being weird just because gay people exist and look for a reason to demonize people

[᲼᲼᲼᲼᲼᲼᲼᲼]

that's the spirit! the next game after kingdom come deliverance will be probably settled in ancient Crete and will show these ignorant chuds how pederasty was a normal practice in Ancient Grece.
Back in the days women were considered inferior to men, that's why REAL love could be had only for other men (especially teens of Hans' age with delicate features like him). But I'm sure Warhorse Studios will be able to omit or contextualize/spin this second part, I believe in them and their historical knowledge.
The LGBT+ community really needs allies like them to keep owning the chuds in these dark times!

[CaraCentral]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย pleb84:

that's the spirit! the next game after kingdom come deliverance will be probably settled in ancient Crete and will show these ignorant chuds how pederasty was a normal practice in Ancient Grece.
Back in the days women were considered inferior to men, that's why REAL love could be had only for other men (especially teens of Hans' age with delicate features like him). But I'm sure Warhorse Studios will be able to omit or contextualize/spin this second part, I believe in them and their historical knowledge.
The LGBT+ community really needs allies like them to keep owning the chuds in these dark times!

Henry is 27, hans is stated directly in kcd1 to be roughly the same age. You're weird for trying to make him younger

[CaraCentral]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย AasimarGER:

Hans is not an Adault in this time period... thats why Hanush still adminsters his fief
hes a boy comming of age and screwing around
and iam fine with that (the real Hans=Jan died 1419 at age 31)
tho in the game it is never said that its because of age.. rather its because hes childish

If by antagonist you mean von Aulitz, he died 1402 at the siege of Prag
so 1 year befor the game

The same sex stuff between Heinrich and Hans? i dont like it, because "puff" it fell from the sky or what? And because it just dosnt feal right after KCD1 and all his fraking around.
it feals more like a checklist for people who like that stuff..
But you can skip it with just taking the other option and dont bother anymore

He is an adult. End of story. You're weird for trying to infantilize him.

[CaraCentral]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย _Patrick Swayze:

Gay sex goes back way further than this game and wasn't uncommon. What's less well-remembered is that, during his younger years, Julius Caesar was widely thought to have been involved in a passionate romance with another man. And not just any man: his squeeze was said to have been King Nicomedes IV of Bithynia, an ancient kingdom located in modern-day Turkey.

Better known to history as the penetrated than the penetrator, sexually speaking Caesar was both.

It's so crazy that these people claim to know history and don't know that some of the most famous people to have ever lived were probably a little gay. There's historical evidence that backs the fact Shakespeare may have been gay. There's historical evidence that Michelangelo made his depictions of Jesus (which are still used today and heavily influence how white christians view Jesus) after his gay lover.

They're just backwards

[᲼᲼᲼᲼᲼᲼᲼᲼]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย CaraCentral:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย _Patrick Swayze:

Gay sex goes back way further than this game and wasn't uncommon. What's less well-remembered is that, during his younger years, Julius Caesar was widely thought to have been involved in a passionate romance with another man. And not just any man: his squeeze was said to have been King Nicomedes IV of Bithynia, an ancient kingdom located in modern-day Turkey.

Better known to history as the penetrated than the penetrator, sexually speaking Caesar was both.

It's so crazy that these people claim to know history and don't know that some of the most famous people to have ever lived were probably a little gay. There's historical evidence that backs the fact Shakespeare may have been gay. There's historical evidence that Michelangelo made his depictions of Jesus (which are still used today and heavily influence how white christians view Jesus) after his gay lover.

They're just backwards

https://blog.bham.ac.uk/historybham/lgbtqia-history-month-male-homosexuality-in-ancient-rome/
here you go, champ: "The act of penetrative sex between males was inexplicably linked with the active man’s dominance and prowess, and it was regarded as scandalous and humiliating for men to be the passive partner. Julius Caesar was accused by political opponents in the late 50s/early 40s BC to have engaged in a sexual relationship with King Nicomedes IV of Bithynia when he had been a guest at the Bithynian court in 80 BC. While it is unclear as to whether this claim is true, Caesar was rumoured to have been the passive sexual partner, earning him the title ‘The Queen of Bithynia’ from his enemies, demonstrating the relationship between passivity and femininity, as well as the emasculatory effects that being the recipient of homosexual sex entailed. Even when Caesar returned to Rome after conquering Gaul he could not escape the rumours, and the chant ‘Caesar laid Gaul low, but Nicomedes laid Caesar low’ rang out at his triumphal procession."
Are we finished? do you need to contextualize/spin this?
p.s.: never use ancient history to push modern agendas, it always backfires, champ.

[CaraCentral]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย pleb84:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย CaraCentral:

It's so crazy that these people claim to know history and don't know that some of the most famous people to have ever lived were probably a little gay. There's historical evidence that backs the fact Shakespeare may have been gay. There's historical evidence that Michelangelo made his depictions of Jesus (which are still used today and heavily influence how white christians view Jesus) after his gay lover.

They're just backwards

https://blog.bham.ac.uk/historybham/lgbtqia-history-month-male-homosexuality-in-ancient-rome/
here you go, champ: "The act of penetrative sex between males was inexplicably linked with the active man’s dominance and prowess, and it was regarded as scandalous and humiliating for men to be the passive partner. Julius Caesar was accused by political opponents in the late 50s/early 40s BC to have engaged in a sexual relationship with King Nicomedes IV of Bithynia when he had been a guest at the Bithynian court in 80 BC. While it is unclear as to whether this claim is true, Caesar was rumoured to have been the passive sexual partner, earning him the title ‘The Queen of Bithynia’ from his enemies, demonstrating the relationship between passivity and femininity, as well as the emasculatory effects that being the recipient of homosexual sex entailed. Even when Caesar returned to Rome after conquering Gaul he could not escape the rumours, and the chant ‘Caesar laid Gaul low, but Nicomedes laid Caesar low’ rang out at his triumphal procession."
Are we finished? do you need to contextualize/spin this?
p.s.: never use ancient history to push modern agendas, it always backfires, champ.

This proves... What exactly? That people were homophobic??? Ok what's new??? I never said it was accepted. I said it was not uncommon. Since when have humans not done things that were taboo? Sorry you think gay people existing was an agenda I hope you feel love eventually because your life is sorely lacking it