smithing high quality swords is infuriating

[Yellowtheblue]

I've been trying to smith a level 4 dueling longsword for who knows how long but i just cant do it. i have 30 levels in smithing but one single bad hit seems to ruin it and some parts of the sword are "bad zones" from the very start so the only way to know when you are getting near a bad zone is to listen to the hits of the hammer gradually getting worse which is hard to do because of HENRYS ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ WHISTELING.

[solicitr]

BeardLasers lähetti viestin:

Looks like it might be a bug. Found a solution on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/kingdomcome/comments/1inuy9h/comment/mceaxid/ if you store one in your storage chest it should work to forge a second one. Very strange and this worked for me so can confirm after many multiple attempts.

That's great, but it doesn't work with unique weapons

[brodis60]

My sword clips through the anvil when trying to hammer the blade lol its legit impossible to hit

[Kona]

solicitr lähetti viestin:

BeardLasers lähetti viestin:

Looks like it might be a bug. Found a solution on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/kingdomcome/comments/1inuy9h/comment/mceaxid/ if you store one in your storage chest it should work to forge a second one. Very strange and this worked for me so can confirm after many multiple attempts.

That's great, but it doesn't work with unique weapons

Some weapons that you craft for quests can't get to tier 4 in my experience. Trick is to get the weapon white hot without overheating. Work up and down the blade once then flip. Repeat until done. If it starts getting red put it back in fire. When hammering as soon as henry's hammer leaves the frame release it and you should have the timing perfect. If he is whistling you have the timing right. It can also help to drink potions to raise craftsmanship as this will give more wiggle room for errors

[Bronklom]

I have never failed to do this after getting the perk that allows you to smith level 4 gear. Even when drunk and botching it hard and having to reheat it 3 times or even burning it by heating it too hard. Smithing is really easy.

[Kona]

Bronklom lähetti viestin:

I have never failed to do this after getting the perk that allows you to smith level 4 gear. Even when drunk and botching it hard and having to reheat it 3 times or even burning it by heating it too hard. Smithing is really easy.

Valentines sword was the only one I struggled with, Then I drank a Henry's Quickfinger potion and got it first try

[Scaristotle]

M quality is easy with no mods. For one, think of the whistling as a metronome that isn't exactly accurate. Get the hang of heavy strikes with the hammer while the metal is yellow/orange.

I work in one direction along the blade/axe/whatever, making sure that each strike lands roughly a hammer-width apart (use the side of the hammer's head facing you to estimate this). Henry may or may not whistle, depending on your rhythm, but it's not such a big deal, so long as you don't burn your metal when using the billows.

When you reach the end of the blade with your hammering (or pattern for axes, horseshoes, etc), flip the object and work this side the same way.

It's fine to work on the blade until it starts turning dark red. As long as you aren't striking the same area before flipping, and don't burn the metal when reheating you should hit M no sweat.

The whistling just speeds up the crafting time, really, and you can hit M without any tunes. Timing is more important with Alchemy, but even that comes down to just taking note of a couple of animations.

[breversa]

Scaristotle lähetti viestin:

M quality is easy with no mods. For one, think of the whistling as a metronome that isn't exactly accurate. Get the hang of heavy strikes with the hammer while the metal is yellow/orange.

I work in one direction along the blade/axe/whatever, making sure that each strike lands roughly a hammer-width apart (use the side of the hammer's head facing you to estimate this). Henry may or may not whistle, depending on your rhythm, but it's not such a big deal, so long as you don't burn your metal when using the billows.

When you reach the end of the blade with your hammering (or pattern for axes, horseshoes, etc), flip the object and work this side the same way.

It's fine to work on the blade until it starts turning dark red. As long as you aren't striking the same area before flipping, and don't burn the metal when reheating you should hit M no sweat.

The whistling just speeds up the crafting time, really, and you can hit M without any tunes. Timing is more important with Alchemy, but even that comes down to just taking note of a couple of animations.

Good tips you're giving!

I've also noticed that the most important conditions to get a high/Henry quality seem to be :
1. don't under or VERY overheat
2. don't bang where the blade is too cold
3. don't bang on the same spot.

Timing/whistling, strength of strikes and re-heating several times seem to only change the time needed to finish, not the quality.

Also : don't craft unique weapons unless you have the Hardened Steel and Martin/Henry quality perks, and go for the level 4 quality! 😉

[_Synt3rax_]

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Scaristotle lähetti viestin:

M quality is easy with no mods. For one, think of the whistling as a metronome that isn't exactly accurate. Get the hang of heavy strikes with the hammer while the metal is yellow/orange.

I work in one direction along the blade/axe/whatever, making sure that each strike lands roughly a hammer-width apart (use the side of the hammer's head facing you to estimate this). Henry may or may not whistle, depending on your rhythm, but it's not such a big deal, so long as you don't burn your metal when using the billows.

When you reach the end of the blade with your hammering (or pattern for axes, horseshoes, etc), flip the object and work this side the same way.

It's fine to work on the blade until it starts turning dark red. As long as you aren't striking the same area before flipping, and don't burn the metal when reheating you should hit M no sweat.

The whistling just speeds up the crafting time, really, and you can hit M without any tunes. Timing is more important with Alchemy, but even that comes down to just taking note of a couple of animations.

Good tips you're giving!

I've also noticed that the most important conditions to get a high/Henry quality seem to be :
1. don't under or VERY overheat
2. don't bang where the blade is too cold
3. don't bang on the same spot.

Timing/whistling, strength of strikes and re-heating several times seem to only change the time needed to finish, not the quality.

Also : don't craft unique weapons unless you have the Hardened Steel and Martin/Henry quality perks, and go for the level 4 quality! 😉

Nah Henrys Special Sword only got to rank 3 with out without the Perk for lvl4 Weapons, every other Special Weapong was able to get lvl4. But that was probaply just a Bug (among many)

[breversa]

Have you been able to forge the Hermit's Toledo sword to level 4?

I've been able to forge the following unique weapons to level 4:
- Adorned axe
- Brunswick polearm (reorder bonus)
- Rikonaris saber

[Biggus_Dikkus]

Never had lower quality blade after tier 4

[emblask]

also, wearing the blacksmith's apron and leather gloves boosts your blacksmithing skill by a combined 5-7 or something like that

[Grahor]

Okay, so I have crafting lvl 30. I have no problem forging battle or broad swords, but for the life of me I can't forge duelling.
Problems I have noticed: first strike after hitting always a miss. That's for any sword. Any advice?
Sometimes I can't hit the middle of the sword. It just missess. What am I doing wrong?

[♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥]

Sometimes I think I messed up and it's a Master level weapon, sometimes I think I did pretty well and it's only quality II.
Also had a sword apparently go from II to M just sitting in my inventory (St. Valentine's sword).
Plus I feel like sometimes when I go offbeat the whistling continues regardless, only to stop when I get back to the rhythm of the whistling.

[dodAEK]

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...I want him to shut the f up....

the best is when some random ♥♥♥♥ in the background starts whistling too

had to whistle myself to keep the rythm

[Ichiro Avenged']

BeardLasers lähetti viestin:

Looks like it might be a bug. Found a solution on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/kingdomcome/comments/1inuy9h/comment/mceaxid/ if you store one in your storage chest it should work to forge a second one. Very strange and this worked for me so can confirm after many multiple attempts.

I had the exact same issue. Tried 4 times and it didn't work, but as soon as I put my sword back in the storage and tried smithing a new one, I got lvl 4 first try.
Thank you so much !