The Hans Capon isn't just a moral issue, but a legal one.

[B1]

So the original was a masterpiece, loved it. Really felt like a historical piece and the player could dive head first into the plot, character, and adventure and immerse themselves in true European history.

But now it comes out that Hans is gay, UNDERAGE and there is a sodomy scene!? Holy crap, I had to read the article and see that the developer doubled down on this.

This is nothing short of child pornography and should be banned. This isn't just a moral issue, but a legal one and should not allowed to be sold.

And this being sold to the general public a hazard.

Anyone attempting to obfuscate or defend this is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ evil.

[Reuben]

Originally posted by Caduryn:

Originally posted by Reuben:

?



Again, doesn't matter. Any media that depicts someone having sex with a minor can be illegal depending on where the media is being sold. It doesn't matter if it's fiction, non-fiction or based on true events.

There are no Minors in the Game

15 isn't a minor?

[Aegmar]

Originally posted by smoketrees:

It's neither a moral nor legal issue.

It's just a ♥♥♥♥ writing issue.

its no issue at all - the Hans Capon portayed in the game is clearly an adult.

Its sad how the homophobes and racists (which seem to be overrepresented among gamers) cling to every poorly constructed scrap and strawman to express their rage about any "diversity" in games..., seriously, calm down....jeez, or invent a time machine and travel back to the Fifties...and stay there...

[Caduryn]

Originally posted by Reuben:

Originally posted by Caduryn:

There are no Minors in the Game

15 isn't a minor?

The real existing Person was 15, the ingame is mid 20

[Reuben]

Originally posted by Caduryn:

Originally posted by Reuben:

15 isn't a minor?

The real existing Person was 15, the ingame is mid 20

The in-game codex makes it very clear that he's 15, given the date of birth and the year that the game takes place in...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GjOIh9tXYAAxyDH.jpg

No amount of gaslighting will change the fact that he's a minor. As for looking like an adult, no ♥♥♥♥, people were less sedentary and less afflicted by chemicals in the food and environment back then.

None of this changes the fact that in some countries where this piece of media is being sold, a male of consensual age is having gay sex with a minor.

[Caduryn]

Originally posted by Reuben:

Originally posted by Caduryn:

The real existing Person was 15, the ingame is mid 20

The in-game codex makes it very clear that he's 15, given the date of birth and the year that the game takes place in...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GjOIh9tXYAAxyDH.jpg

No amount of gaslighting will change the fact that he's a minor. As for looking like an adult, no ♥♥♥♥, people were less sedentary and less afflicted by chemicals in the food and environment back then.

For the 1000 time, the IN GAME Codex is NOT canon, its REAL HISTORY information and NOT INGAME information

[NicoTLG]

Dont even answer these forum trolls guys. Its the same in Spcae Marine II and any other game. I cant be asked

[Reuben]

Originally posted by Caduryn:

Originally posted by Reuben:

The in-game codex makes it very clear that he's 15, given the date of birth and the year that the game takes place in...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GjOIh9tXYAAxyDH.jpg

No amount of gaslighting will change the fact that he's a minor. As for looking like an adult, no ♥♥♥♥, people were less sedentary and less afflicted by chemicals in the food and environment back then.

For the 1000 time, the IN GAME Codex is NOT canon, its REAL HISTORY information and NOT INGAME information

I'll leave you to your copium and also direct you to the black guy virtue signaling about how much more civilised his homeland built on slavery is.

Occam's Razor suggests that the simplest answer is that Warhorse Studios had to add ESG elements into the game after being bought by Embracer Group, hence why KCD1 has no DEI in comparison.

[robilar5500]

Originally posted by Caduryn:

Originally posted by Reuben:

The in-game codex makes it very clear that he's 15, given the date of birth and the year that the game takes place in...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GjOIh9tXYAAxyDH.jpg

No amount of gaslighting will change the fact that he's a minor. As for looking like an adult, no ♥♥♥♥, people were less sedentary and less afflicted by chemicals in the food and environment back then.

For the 1000 time, the IN GAME Codex is NOT canon, its REAL HISTORY information and NOT INGAME information

They don't care. They see a thirty year old and think he looks fifteen. Which does raise some important questions regarding their real life habits.

[Caduryn]

Originally posted by Reuben:

Originally posted by Caduryn:

For the 1000 time, the IN GAME Codex is NOT canon, its REAL HISTORY information and NOT INGAME information

I'll leave you to your copium and also direct you to the black guy virtue signaling about how much more civilised his homeland built on slavery is.

Occam's Razor suggests that the simplest answer is that Warhorse Studios had to add ESG elements into the game after being bought by Embracer Group, hence why KCD1 has no DEI in comparison.

But KCD1 had Gay Characters....

[B1]

Originally posted by Reuben:

Originally posted by Caduryn:

For the 1000 time, the IN GAME Codex is NOT canon, its REAL HISTORY information and NOT INGAME information

I'll leave you to your copium and also direct you to the black guy virtue signaling about how much more civilised his homeland built on slavery is.

Occam's Razor suggests that the simplest answer is that Warhorse Studios had to add ESG elements into the game after being bought by Embracer Group, hence why KCD1 has no DEI in comparison.

That buy out seems to be the biggest factor in the change between the releases.

Again, the amount of people gas lighting, obfuscating, even endorsing the 15 year old thing is telling of the fanbase now. Just evil.

How anyone can even stand on the premise, in their opinion, on it even being questionable that he is 15 is detestable. In their own argument, it's debatable. They don't disavow or condemn. Neither has Warhorse.

[Reuben]

Originally posted by robilar5500:

Originally posted by Caduryn:

For the 1000 time, the IN GAME Codex is NOT canon, its REAL HISTORY information and NOT INGAME information

They don't care. They see a thirty year old and think he looks fifteen. Which does raise some important questions regarding their real life habits.

Show where it says the codex doesn't apply to the game universe and also please cite where the game clarifies he's 30 (facial appearance and voice isn't a solid argument due to pubertal norms being vastly different compared to today and plenty of teens develop facial hair and deeper voices years before their cohorts).

Ad hominem is a logical fallacy.

Originally posted by Caduryn:

Originally posted by Reuben:

I'll leave you to your copium and also direct you to the black guy virtue signaling about how much more civilised his homeland built on slavery is.

Occam's Razor suggests that the simplest answer is that Warhorse Studios had to add ESG elements into the game after being bought by Embracer Group, hence why KCD1 has no DEI in comparison.

But KCD1 had Gay Characters....

I'm pretty sure Hans and Henry weren't gay or had any gay tendencies in the first game. This is very immersion breaking.

[Caduryn]

Originally posted by Reuben:

Originally posted by robilar5500:

They don't care. They see a thirty year old and think he looks fifteen. Which does raise some important questions regarding their real life habits.

Show where it says the codex doesn't apply to the game universe and also please cite where the game clarifies he's 30 (facial appearance and voice isn't a solid argument due to pubertal norms being vastly different compared to today).

Ad hominem is a logical fallacy.

How comes a Villain Character is dead in the Codex and somehow still alive in the Game?

BECAUSE the Codes is about real History.

[Caduryn]

Originally posted by Reuben:

Originally posted by Caduryn:

But KCD1 had Gay Characters....

I'm pretty sure Hans and Henry weren't gay or had any gay tendencies in the first game. This is very immersion breaking.

Who said anything about Hans or Henry...?

[B1]

The Creative Director on X commented on the controversy:

"Vavra responded to this discovery when one person on X wrote, “If you decide you want a love scene with Hans in KCD2, you are committing paedophilia because Hans is 15 years old. You cannot even make up stuff like that.”

He retorted, “Imagine that women at the time were married at the age of 12 and had children. Also they needed witnesses during first sex.”

"The individual retorted, “If you were aiming for historical accuracy, why are there no children in the game? Because they could be killed? Killing them is bad, but having sex with them is fine? Ok bud.”

Vavra replied, “So there are no children, but Capon is a child and... You seem kinda lost...”

"The individual then replied, “So Capon is the only child in the game, and coincidentally, it is possible to have sex with him. You were lost when you designed the game.”

Vavra did not reply to that comment."

-Source: https://fandompulse.substack.com/p/kingdom-come-deliverance-ii-creative-a22

[B1]

he doesn't flatly deny it. as good as confirming