Crime System

[David Fifield]

I took a brand to absolve my crimes but now every time I go back to Troskowitz I get told I have to pay a fine ( some insane amount 7000+ ).
I'm not holding any stolen items and I haven't committed a crime since.

Is this a bug or what?

[ENRL]

nah its a cringe mechanic. I stole a lot of ♥♥♥♥ without actually getting caught but the game registered anyway. I stowed everything in a stash and I had to pay for 30k. Just had enough with this dumb system and I used cheat to get that money back

[David Fifield]

Originally posted by ENRL:

nah its a cringe mechanic. I stole a lot of ♥♥♥♥ without actually getting caught but the game registered anyway. I stowed everything in a stash and I had to pay for 30k. Just had enough with this dumb system and I used cheat to get that money back

Yeah this system seems to be completely broken. I don't understand how I can commit a crime that no one sees and then days later get accused of the crime.

[Aveyond54]

Even if you didn't get caught in the act doesn't mean people won't find out it was you. Imagine everything being dandy for years then some random guy wanders in town and everything happens to start going missing, becomes fairly obvious it was the random guy that had shown up. Having a high reputation in the area can help prevent that from happening as fast.

[David Fifield]

Originally posted by Aveyond54:

Even if you didn't get caught in the act doesn't mean people won't find out it was you. Imagine everything being dandy for years then some random guy wanders in town and everything happens to start going missing, becomes fairly obvious it was the random guy that had shown up. Having a high reputation in the area can help prevent that from happening as fast.

This is absolutely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lol. I've had people at work get caught for stealing 10 + years into working for the company. Imagine if they just blamed it on the new hires...

The system is actually just broken. People on the reddit are posting about being accused of crimes they didn't commit, as they are doing a "lawful good" playthrough.

https://www.reddit.com/r/kingdomcome/comments/1ikg63y/the_new_crime_system_is_interesting_sometimes/
https://www.reddit.com/r/kingdomcome/comments/1ii0lne/is_the_crime_system_in_kcd2_broken_for_anyone_else/

Lol imagine being accused of murder for killing bandits that accosted you on the road.

[Gorebane44]

ya its broken. I killed some of the guards in Main starting city because for some reason they decided to attack me when I ran to them for help while being chased by a bandit (can't pronounce or spell any of them) Decided I didn't wanna be kos anymore so I went to the fine box and paid my dues of like 1k or something. Then when the guards respawned ( ireturned like 2 days later) they began attacking me again as if I never paid off my fines etc. I gave up trying to pay the fine or surrendering as I refuse to be branded for stupid broken stuff. Somehow that games fixed itself though after a few days of murdering the city guards. I guess enough time past since my last visit it reset the ai or something I dont know. The crime system in this game is def borked though.

[David Fifield]

Originally posted by Gorebane44:

ya its broken. I killed some of the guards in Main starting city because for some reason they decided to attack me when I ran to them for help while being chased by a bandit (can't pronounce or spell any of them) Decided I didn't wanna be kos anymore so I went to the fine box and paid my dues of like 1k or something. Then when the guards respawned ( ireturned like 2 days later) they began attacking me again as if I never paid off my fines etc. I gave up trying to pay the fine or surrendering as I refuse to be branded for stupid broken stuff. Somehow that games fixed itself though after a few days of murdering the city guards. I guess enough time past since my last visit it reset the ai or something I dont know. The crime system in this game is def borked though.

Yeah the problem for me is EVERYTIME I go into Troskowitz I get immediately ran up on and accused of a crime....even after being branded. It's ruining my ability to do like 3 different quests in that township.

[dolby]

Originally posted by Aveyond54:

Even if you didn't get caught in the act doesn't mean people won't find out it was you. Imagine everything being dandy for years then some random guy wanders in town and everything happens to start going missing, becomes fairly obvious it was the random guy that had shown up. Having a high reputation in the area can help prevent that from happening as fast.

Who said it was dandy before?? At best it was peaceful(no war)but seeing they have new graves with bodies just outside the village and all sorts of people around village...

Not to mention everyone is talking about bandits and you can find them around and all sorts of people come and go...

in my game they were mercenaries running around, bandits, hunters and so on someone even gets punished and put into stocks, pillory and you can let them go npcs talk about bad things all the time and player has nothing to do with that.

So maybe do not make stuff up ???

Anyone could steal... Just cos you get put into pillory for fighting at a tavern that's no proof you are a thief.

[dolby]

Villages should start posting more guards with dogs. Npcs stay up at night less of them sleeping. Npcs should stop selling things if too many things get stolen. Locks get harder to pick same as with pickpocketing.
IF it really gets bed things could get stored in secure place with 3 24 hours guards that where 1 never moves away and if something happens 1 goes and wakes up everyone.

That would be way better way of doing things.

As is it feel like some random crim tag player gets that at this point feel more like a huge bug then anything else only had it happen one time so i still not sure if it's a bug or not lol cos it never happened again.

[Jackal]

thats very disappointing if true, wouldnt surprise me, the crime system was bugged in the first game too, run to a guard when a bandit is actively trying to murder you, and they attack you for defending yourself, stupid crap liek that
im just trying to play the game without the screen or lights flashing randomly in the rain and stuff, really poorly made game

[MericSever]

i have a feeling its to do with rep & gear system .. ie you have a normal Rep in the area but are walking around in gear that makes you look like a bandit -_- (Conspicuous Stat would play into this)

(Hay Jerry you know ya sausage that went missen last eve ... that creepy Fker over darr looks sketchy af bet its him)

or walking around looking like a lord

(Pardon us melord) XD

[dolby]

Originally posted by Jackal:

thats very disappointing if true, wouldnt surprise me, the crime system was bugged in the first game too, run to a guard when a bandit is actively trying to murder you, and they attack you for defending yourself, stupid crap liek that

yeah all sorts of strange things like that happen. It needs way more polish and improvements... it could be great.

Originally posted by Jake ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°):

Originally posted by ENRL:

nah its a cringe mechanic. I stole a lot of ♥♥♥♥ without actually getting caught but the game registered anyway. I stowed everything in a stash and I had to pay for 30k. Just had enough with this dumb system and I used cheat to get that money back

Yeah this system seems to be completely broken. I don't understand how I can commit a crime that no one sees and then days later get accused of the crime.

i think it's a bug cos i stolen lots of things and 5 days later and still nothing
but one time before that i was sleeping with stolen items and i think guards always walks close by that spot and i got flagged as a criminal in the morning and no one seen me.

Loaded a save and stored items outside the village and then nothing happened... that time, it's just strange...

[Jackal]

hrmmmm im trying to play with like savior snaps required to save but crap like this, makes me want to go back and enable saves mod

[Arden]

I pickpocketed all towns in the starting regions after midnight and stole whatever I liked from the chests. Was never seen and didn't have any problems. Conspicuousnes, noise and visibility were below 30.

If you wear stolen items from the town you will be in trouble though. Same goes if you attack the travellers around towns. If you strangle sleeping people they also know it's you for some reason. That's what I've seen so far.

[Grubbs008]

Originally posted by Jackal:

hrmmmm im trying to play with like savior snaps required to save but crap like this, makes me want to go back and enable saves mod

Meh, the game is more fun with the mod IMO. It can take away from the uh-oh moments, but if something breaks, or your game crashes and you had no schnapps then riperoni.

[MOSTOR]

Got fight with cumans and instantly deported to be punished it Troskowitz, why???