Reputation Bug [Bad Blood]?

[Zuckeraffe]

I think I noticed a bug with the reputation system, it may be only this quest but it also very well be everywhere else. Kinda frustrating.

I was doing the "Bad Blood" quest and after deciding to bring Straw to the bailiff I noticed that as soon as I come the the dialogue option to say anything about his upcoming punishment I lose reputation. I thought well, maybe just with the some common folks or his family, but because I got no gain in reputation as well I decided to checked and noticed that my reputation was overall lower than I remembered it. So I went back, load a save and compare my reputation in Troskowitz before and after bringing him to the bailiff.

(Be aware that I am playing the game on german so the names may wary, I'll translate them freely)

Before:

Overall: 74

Commons: 76
- Artisans & Merchants: 80
- Tavern: 96
- Others: 77

Guards: 75

Nobles: 76

After:

Overall: 72

Commons: 74
- Artisans & Merchants: 78
- Tavern: 94
- Others: 75

Guards: 72

Nobles: 59

Am I missing something here? Especially my reputation with the nobles toke such a massive hit while my expectation would be that I should gain rep here because the bailiff is counted as part of them. Of course I would expect that his family and friends may dislike me but not just everyone for bringing justice lol.

[Magnus Gray]

Yeah, I just noticed the same thing. I chose the option to take into account that it was an accident/self defence and lost way more reputation.

But this seems to happen a lot in this game in general.

I understand you're supposed to roleplay as someone who fits in to their place and is already familiar with the customs and rules of their society, but you keep losing reputation all the time for having completely normal conversations and asking completely normal questions for seemingly completely cryptic reasons.

[Zuckeraffe]

I can accept if we lose some reputation e.g. when we ask something sensitive that someone doesn't like or want to talk about, even if it may catch us off guard. But in this manner it's just blantantly false, the bailiff is thanking me but the reputation affected to him plummets.

[Magnus Gray]

Originally posted by Zuckeraffe:

I can accept if we lose some reputation e.g. when we ask something sensitive that someone doesn't like or want to talk about, even if it may catch us off guard. But in this manner it's just blantantly false, the bailiff is thanking me but the reputation affected to him plummets.

Oh yeah, that's fine of course. But I've had it happen during completely normal conversations where the character I'm talking to isn't having any sort of reaction at all as well.

A lot of dialogue options don't seem to match up with or convey the intent they are meant to have.

[Zuckeraffe]

Seems like that, yeah. Right now I'm thinking what to do now, do the choice I want to make and take the rep hit or do another choice just so my reputation stays up.

[Magnus Gray]

I'm considering waiting with finishing this quest until there's a patch, but I'm not sure if there's a hidden time limit, since the situation does seem very time sensitive.

Edit: Various guides state that you should take him to the bailiff to increase reputation, so it does indeed appear to be a bug.

[Zuckeraffe]

I know that there is a time limit after that step but I'm not sure about the exact moment we are now. Maybe I will just let the game run in the background for some time and see if the quest will fail.

Yeah, that checks out. That's really sad because my inner Monk wants to do it the right way but I really love the game otherwise and want to continue playing.

[Halabec]

I'm also losing 20 Nobility rep when I turn in Straw to Bailiff Thrush. Per the game's text in the reputation tab, Nobility includes Bailiff Thrush. It doesn't make any sense and absolutely seems like a bug.

I'm not sure what to do at this point. I'm doing the "right thing" by turning into a murderer to a literal bailiff and the bailiff is getting pissed at me for it? I guess I should just kill the murderer or let him walk? Makes a whole lot of sense.

[Fool]

It's obviously a bug because the game thinks you entered a forbidden area. I chose to let Straw go, but now I'm worried about the consequences. Maybe someone else did the same - will he return to avenge his brother, or will nothing happen?
And it's funny that I got +rep after letting a murderer escape. Interesting village.