Speech Checks Broken?

[Ralticz]

is anyone else just completely unable to pass ANY speech checks whatsoever even with high speech stats? I swear, i cannot pass ANY of them and its starting to ruin my gameplay

[Das Trojanische Pferd]

are you dressed accordingly to what you want to do?
are you trying to intimidate bandits?

[rustypup]

The hints are there

The help manual is there

Use them

Will miss some but if you're failing all of them you're getting the basics wrong

[Ralticz]

Originally posted by Das Trojanische Pferd:

are you dressed accordingly to what you want to do?
are you trying to intimidate bandits?

im in full dress attire at a wedding trying to get a girl to dance with me (not kidding), doesnt work. Before was having a drinking party with cumans and i failed all speech checks there too. Speech just doesnt work in this game at all.

[Ralticz]

Originally posted by rustypup:

The hints are there

The help manual is there

Use them

Will miss some but if you're failing all of them you're getting the basics wrong

how the heck am i getting the basics wrong for speech checks, you just wear fancy clothes and click

[SunsetAmethyst]

Originally posted by Ralticz:

Originally posted by rustypup:

The hints are there

The help manual is there

Use them

Will miss some but if you're failing all of them you're getting the basics wrong

how the heck am i getting the basics wrong for speech checks, you just wear fancy clothes and click

"Your ability to perasuade people is determined by a combination of your speech skill, charisma and reputation. Each of these elements plays a role in efffectively negotiating, intimidating or manipulating npc's.

When engaging in dialogue, you will be presented with diffrent choices that influence how an npc responds to you. Your ability to perasuade them depends not only numerical stats but also on the context of the conversation, the npc's personality and your apperance. Rather than simply selecting the highest skill based option, consider factors such as:

The type of npc you are speaking to
Your clothing and hygiene
Your past interactions and reputation within the area you are in
The specific perasuasion method being used

Some characters may be more susceptible to intimidation for example, while others may respond better to charm or logic. Understanding who you are dealing with is essential for making the right choices

There are six primary ways to perasuade npc's:

1: Speech
This method relies on verbal eloquence and reasoning. The higher your speech skill, the more likely you are to talk your way out of situations. Regular conversations with npc's, particularly merchants will improve this stat over time.

2: Charisma
Your charisma is heavily influenced by your apperance, including the quality and cleanliness of your clothing. A well -groomed and well-dressed character is more likely to be perasuasive, particularly when dealing with nobles or townspeople.

3: Might
Physical strenght can play a role in perasuasion, especially in situations where an npc might be intimidated by your combat prowess. A strong and imposing presence can make them more inclined to comply with your demands

4: Coercion
This perasuasion method involves manipulating the truth to your advantage. Skilled liars can decieve npcs into believing fabricated stories or false promises to get what they want

5: Domination
Leveraging your power and reputation, you can exert authority over npc's, making them respect or fear you. This approach is particularly effective against those who recognize your status and influence.

6: Dread
Fear can be a powerful tool. Theatening an npc can compel them to comply with your wishes, though excessive intimidating may have consequences for your reputation.

Not all six methods are applicable in every conversation, consider who you are talking to and try to gauge the optimal approach for that specific character and backround."

[Ralticz]

Originally posted by SunsetAmethyst:

Originally posted by Ralticz:

how the heck am i getting the basics wrong for speech checks, you just wear fancy clothes and click

"Your ability to perasuade people is determined by a combination of your speech skill, charisma and reputation. Each of these elements plays a role in efffectively negotiating, intimidating or manipulating npc's.

When engaging in dialogue, you will be presented with diffrent choices that influence how an npc responds to you. Your ability to perasuade them depends not only numerical stats but also on the context of the conversation, the npc's personality and your apperance. Rather than simply selecting the highest skill based option, consider factors such as:

The type of npc you are speaking to
Your clothing and hygiene
Your past interactions and reputation within the area you are in
The specific perasuasion method being used

Some characters may be more susceptible to intimidation for example, while others may respond better to charm or logic. Understanding who you are dealing with is essential for making the right choices

There are six primary ways to perasuade npc's:

1: Speech
This method relies on verbal eloquence and reasoning. The higher your speech skill, the more likely you are to talk your way out of situations. Regular conversations with npc's, particularly merchants will improve this stat over time.

2: Charisma
Your charisma is heavily influenced by your apperance, including the quality and cleanliness of your clothing. A well -groomed and well-dressed character is more likely to be perasuasive, particularly when dealing with nobles or townspeople.

3: Might
Physical strenght can play a role in perasuasion, especially in situations where an npc might be intimidated by your combat prowess. A strong and imposing presence can make them more inclined to comply with your demands

4: Coercion
This perasuasion method involves manipulating the truth to your advantage. Skilled liars can decieve npcs into believing fabricated stories or false promises to get what they want

5: Domination
Leveraging your power and reputation, you can exert authority over npc's, making them respect or fear you. This approach is particularly effective against those who recognize your status and influence.

6: Dread
Fear can be a powerful tool. Theatening an npc can compel them to comply with your wishes, though excessive intimidating may have consequences for your reputation.

Not all six methods are applicable in every conversation, consider who you are talking to and try to gauge the optimal approach for that specific character and backround."

this doesnt help at all, i have 15+ in a stat and still FAIL the speech check, NOTHING i do makes me pass them, it is completely bugged out.

[SunsetAmethyst]

Originally posted by Ralticz:

Originally posted by SunsetAmethyst:

"Your ability to perasuade people is determined by a combination of your speech skill, charisma and reputation. Each of these elements plays a role in efffectively negotiating, intimidating or manipulating npc's.

When engaging in dialogue, you will be presented with diffrent choices that influence how an npc responds to you. Your ability to perasuade them depends not only numerical stats but also on the context of the conversation, the npc's personality and your apperance. Rather than simply selecting the highest skill based option, consider factors such as:

The type of npc you are speaking to
Your clothing and hygiene
Your past interactions and reputation within the area you are in
The specific perasuasion method being used

Some characters may be more susceptible to intimidation for example, while others may respond better to charm or logic. Understanding who you are dealing with is essential for making the right choices

There are six primary ways to perasuade npc's:

1: Speech
This method relies on verbal eloquence and reasoning. The higher your speech skill, the more likely you are to talk your way out of situations. Regular conversations with npc's, particularly merchants will improve this stat over time.

2: Charisma
Your charisma is heavily influenced by your apperance, including the quality and cleanliness of your clothing. A well -groomed and well-dressed character is more likely to be perasuasive, particularly when dealing with nobles or townspeople.

3: Might
Physical strenght can play a role in perasuasion, especially in situations where an npc might be intimidated by your combat prowess. A strong and imposing presence can make them more inclined to comply with your demands

4: Coercion
This perasuasion method involves manipulating the truth to your advantage. Skilled liars can decieve npcs into believing fabricated stories or false promises to get what they want

5: Domination
Leveraging your power and reputation, you can exert authority over npc's, making them respect or fear you. This approach is particularly effective against those who recognize your status and influence.

6: Dread
Fear can be a powerful tool. Theatening an npc can compel them to comply with your wishes, though excessive intimidating may have consequences for your reputation.

Not all six methods are applicable in every conversation, consider who you are talking to and try to gauge the optimal approach for that specific character and backround."

this doesnt help at all, i have 15+ in a stat and still FAIL the speech check, NOTHING i do makes me pass them, it is completely bugged out.

What stat do you have 15 in and who are you talking to? I don't discount the fact that it might be bugged but its not always about how high your stat is, thats what i wanted to confer with my last message.

[AyeItsDamon]

Originally posted by SunsetAmethyst:

Originally posted by Ralticz:

this doesnt help at all, i have 15+ in a stat and still FAIL the speech check, NOTHING i do makes me pass them, it is completely bugged out.

What stat do you have 15 in and who are you talking to? I don't discount the fact that it might be bugged but its not always about how high your stat is, thats what i wanted to confer with my last message.

I refuse to believe there isnt SOMETHING wonky with them. Im having the same issue, havent been able to pass a single check regardless of what I do, or my rep, or what im wearing, or what my said stat is for that particular check option. Ive read the tutorial pages for them multiple times. If they ARENT broken and theyre working the way theyre intended, then it is super sh-ttingly implemented. As ive failed them all and I feel like i am missing out on a TON of the game and being forced to play a way opposite of what id like. Not very fun. I HOPE the check system is just not working properly and they didnt make it this dogsh-t

[AyeItsDamon]

Originally posted by rustypup:

The hints are there

The help manual is there

Use them

Will miss some but if you're failing all of them you're getting the basics wrong

lmao the basics as if its not super simple in the first place. something is up with them

[Nachoproblemz]

Originally posted by Ralticz:

this doesnt help at all, i have 15+ in a stat and still FAIL the speech check, NOTHING i do makes me pass them, it is completely bugged out.

Pretty positive you just suck at reading the room and understanding who you are dealing with. Like, did you even actually READ the post you're replying to? It's not just about a high skill value or the clothes you wear, it is situational based on the npcs, your rep, etc.

Don't blame the game because you can't be bothered to actually read or pay attention. Maybe it is bugged, but based on your comments, it's far more likely you are just dogsh*t at picking options that npcs will be receptive to. Not all skill checks should work, and often, no options will work based on the situation. That's not a broken feature, that's just you not being observant.

[soul like that be capable of]

Originally posted by Ralticz:

is anyone else just completely unable to pass ANY speech checks whatsoever even with high speech stats? I swear, i cannot pass ANY of them and its starting to ruin my gameplay

speech checks seems to work based on your cloths . so if u look like a knight you will able to pass knight checks and of course your score need to be good to able to do it . if u want to intimadte you prob need to look scary maybe cover in blood or something or wear theif cloths . it not based on your stats alone .

[SnuffSaid]

Originally posted by soul like that be capable of:

Originally posted by Ralticz:

is anyone else just completely unable to pass ANY speech checks whatsoever even with high speech stats? I swear, i cannot pass ANY of them and its starting to ruin my gameplay

speech checks seems to work based on your cloths . so if u look like a knight you will able to pass knight checks and of course your score need to be good to able to do it . if u want to intimadte you prob need to look scary maybe cover in blood or something or wear theif cloths . it not based on your stats alone .

Yeah, I deleted my comment in this thread when I realised this. The checks are a lot more heavily weighted towards your clothes than you would expect from the description. Long-time gamers like me will just assume early game checks will be easier until you have time to gear up from looting but it doesn't work that way, this game expects you to spend a little bit of time gearing up before you start tackling quests. As soon as I bought respectable outfits I started passing them. I'm normally Scrooge Mcduck in RPGs and save all my gold until mid-to-late game but here you really have to go shopping early on, buy a "noble outfit" and also fill in any pieces missing from your "fighting outfit", because even if you loot a few decent bits from bandits if you're missing parts you'll still get laughed at.

[Sprayyin]

I'm in the second act of the game and I've yet to have one single speech check succeed. Definitely bugged. Whats the point of having all these people to talk to if every single one just tells me to ♥♥♥♥ off?

[Kona]

Originally posted by Sprayyin:

I'm in the second act of the game and I've yet to have one single speech check succeed. Definitely bugged. Whats the point of having all these people to talk to if every single one just tells me to ♥♥♥♥ off?

I dunno what to tell you I don't have this problem, so I'm guessing it is user error

[Levi_The_Magpie]

Lv20 with all stats 18+ full plate armor, can’t pass any checks against unarmed and un armored guys trying to beat up a dice cheater. Have cleaned clothes and slept with a bath-wench, burgher stomping ground, Heracles, local hero, good natured all active. I call bull that the reason I can’t convince anyone of anything is that I’m not wearing the proper hat and shoes. Shouldn’t have to get Henry to lv 30 to be able to convince a peasant to F off.