whats is all this hate aboute warhorse ?

[Kewada]

why is everyone hating warhorse all of a sudden instead of beeing hyped for the game ?

[RoosterSuplex]

Originally posted by Kewada:

why is everyone hating warhorse all of a sudden instead of beeing hyped for the game ?

its just people angry that they cant have their way, you know people tend to get upset when theyre lied to or disrespected

[Kewada]

Originally posted by Ghostpro71:

It's just a bunch of whiney people that are trying to defame a game that:

1. They had absolutely zero intention of buying in the first place.
2. They're upset because of how it was with KCD1 and the entire controversy with that.
3. They're trying to use "historical accuracy" as a weapon against the game because it has gay sex scenes and a black man who according to them had NO POSSIBLE WAY of ever reaching Bohemia.

It's all a bunch of nonsense.

? sure it was not easy and u for sure stand out as a black man in medival bohemia, but there where always wandering traders all over the world.

[Redhalo]

It's a phenomenon called "zeitgeist".. Look it up!

[Del-Dredd]

Far too many tards who will whine about anything, its how they get their kicks.

[Foxrun]

Originally posted by Mauwi (Max):

they changed the lore to affirm wokeness. ♥♥♥♥ that ♥♥♥♥. not buying.

What lore was changed?

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Fluxuous:

Originally posted by Paddy:

I'm a Catholic and love this game for being one of the few CHRISTIAN games. It allows you to participate in degenerate behavior like the first game, theft, murder, fornication, same sex behavior etc but the people criticising Warhorse think that because you engage in same sex behavior that it is somehow endorsing it. Does it also endorse murder, theft etc?

The game has always made it clear that it promotes Christian virtue by showing the emptiness of immorality. They created an entire DLC around this where you engage in penance for your sins

Fair, though I wouldn't call it a Christian game because it takes a secular viewpoint, there is no divine will present, and consequences for such behavior are simply handed through the will of society or those who have power in the nobility or church, there is no divine punishment for degenerate behavior present in the game, simply earthly punishment which claims to follow Divine Will, as Christian values simply permeated every level of society back then. You understand my perspective here?

This is very much a Christian game.

In the first game there was a DLC in which Johanka, the most virtuous character in the game recieves a vision from the Virgin Mary. Throughout the main game while everyone else is squabbling about politics, refugees, worldy problems Johanka gets stuck in to helping others. Throughout the game she tries to teach Henry about the love of God and how we must love our neighbor in the same way.

Her Character is very much cut from the lives of Real Catholic saints. This is a game in which right and wrong is COMPLETELY rooted in the Christian world-view however you are free to choose which path to go down and all the consequences that follow

[Aedryk]

Originally posted by Paddy:

the people criticising Warhorse think that because you engage in same sex behavior that it is somehow endorsing it.

Bro they made HANS GAY. so yes, they are in fact endorsing it. Or do you imagine Warhorse wants the audience to alienate hans?

[Fluxuous]

Originally posted by Paddy:

Originally posted by Fluxuous:

Fair, though I wouldn't call it a Christian game because it takes a secular viewpoint, there is no divine will present, and consequences for such behavior are simply handed through the will of society or those who have power in the nobility or church, there is no divine punishment for degenerate behavior present in the game, simply earthly punishment which claims to follow Divine Will, as Christian values simply permeated every level of society back then. You understand my perspective here?

This is very much a Christian game.

In the first game there was a DLC in which Johanka, the most virtuous character in the game recieves a vision from the Virgin Mary. Throughout the main game while everyone else is squabbling about politics, refugees, worldy problems Johanka gets stuck in to helping others. Throughout the game she tries to teach Henry about the love of God and how we must love our neighbor in the same way.

Her Character is very much cut from the lives of Real Catholic saints. This is a game in which right and wrong is COMPLETELY rooted in the Christian world-view however you are free to choose which path to go down and all the consequences that follow

And yet it is very easy for Johanka to get falsely punished for her beliefs by the church, I think the game is intentionally written to be agnostic, you can see god if you want, or as I do, you can see only flawed humans attempting to follow gods plan (or not even trying for some) in whatever ways their fallible minds seem appropriate.

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Aedryk:

Originally posted by Paddy:

the people criticising Warhorse think that because you engage in same sex behavior that it is somehow endorsing it.

Bro they made HANS GAY. so yes, they are in fact endorsing it. Or do you imagine Warhorse wants the audience to alienate hans?

This is not like that. Hans like many men and women throughout all era's engages in sinful hedonistic behavior from time to time. The game doesn't encourage this and in fact exposes it for all it's emptiness. It did the same in the first game. If you were someone wanting LGBTQI+ acts promoted the LAST thing you would want is it trivialized for the purpose of exposing it as a hedonistic choice that is in no way encouraged

[DarkOwl]

Originally posted by Pikippon:

Retconning straight MC into bi to catter to the woke agenda is bad writting

Ah yes, because your sexuality is set in stone when you're born and it can't possibly ever change.

[Aedryk]

Originally posted by Paddy:

If you were someone wanting LGBTQI+ acts promoted the LAST thing you would want is it trivialized for the purpose of exposing it as a hedonistic choice that is in no way encouraged

You are making my point for me. You say they wouldn't trivialize gay behavior as a hedonistic choice if they were trying to promote it. The fact that HANS is the gay lover proves they are promoting it. We are meant (as players) to become attached to Hans. His relationship with us lasts the entire saga. He is our best friend. They killed the friendship and comradarie we developed with Hans over the entire first game and sacrificed it upon the alter of gay agenda.

If the gay choice was only a side character or prostitute then I would agree with you.

[🅸🅽🆂🆃🅰🅽🆃🅲]

Originally posted by DarkOwl:

Originally posted by Pikippon:

Retconning straight MC into bi to catter to the woke agenda is bad writting

Ah yes, because your sexuality is set in stone when you're born and it can't possibly ever change.

yes

[MangorushZ]

Originally posted by Kewada:

why is everyone hating warhorse all of a sudden instead of beeing hyped for the game ?

It's mainly the americans, wish we can ban all of them on this forum so they can keep their culture war garbage in their third world country.

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Fluxuous:

Originally posted by Paddy:

This is very much a Christian game.

In the first game there was a DLC in which Johanka, the most virtuous character in the game recieves a vision from the Virgin Mary. Throughout the main game while everyone else is squabbling about politics, refugees, worldy problems Johanka gets stuck in to helping others. Throughout the game she tries to teach Henry about the love of God and how we must love our neighbor in the same way.

Her Character is very much cut from the lives of Real Catholic saints. This is a game in which right and wrong is COMPLETELY rooted in the Christian world-view however you are free to choose which path to go down and all the consequences that follow

And yet it is very easy for Johanka to get falsely punished for her beliefs by the church, I think the game is intentionally written to be agnostic, you can see god if you want, or as I do, you can see only flawed humans attempting to follow gods plan (or not even trying for some) in whatever ways their fallible minds seem appropriate.

Many Saints were promptly punished before being believed. ST Joan of Arc was even accused of heresy and burnt at the stake before this was overturned years later. The BEST ending is where Johanka is believed for her the Virgin Mary having appeared to her therefore in no way agnostic.

This game isn't agnostic just as it isn't relativistic. It's constantly exposes moral relativism as being driven by nothing more than human ego which leads man down the same path of division, violence and hatred

[icouldbeyourmom]

Originally posted by Paddy:

Originally posted by Fluxuous:

Fair, though I wouldn't call it a Christian game because it takes a secular viewpoint, there is no divine will present, and consequences for such behavior are simply handed through the will of society or those who have power in the nobility or church, there is no divine punishment for degenerate behavior present in the game, simply earthly punishment which claims to follow Divine Will, as Christian values simply permeated every level of society back then. You understand my perspective here?

This is very much a Christian game.

In the first game there was a DLC in which Johanka, the most virtuous character in the game recieves a vision from the Virgin Mary. Throughout the main game while everyone else is squabbling about politics, refugees, worldy problems Johanka gets stuck in to helping others. Throughout the game she tries to teach Henry about the love of God and how we must love our neighbor in the same way.

Her Character is very much cut from the lives of Real Catholic saints. This is a game in which right and wrong is COMPLETELY rooted in the Christian world-view however you are free to choose which path to go down and all the consequences that follow

that doesnt mean its a christian game lol. they just try to be the more time accurate possible. you literally

Originally posted by Paddy:

Originally posted by Aedryk:

Bro they made HANS GAY. so yes, they are in fact endorsing it. Or do you imagine Warhorse wants the audience to alienate hans?

This is not like that. Hans like many men and women throughout all era's engages in sinful hedonistic behavior from time to time. The game doesn't encourage this and in fact exposes it for all it's emptiness. It did the same in the first game. If you were someone wanting LGBTQI+ acts promoted the LAST thing you would want is it trivialized for the purpose of exposing it as a hedonistic choice that is in no way encouraged

i really don't think this is a christian game lol its just a game based on a realistic Depiction of that time ( 15th century ) . there a bunch of quest in the first one literally being and doing stuff again the church. the fact that there peoples talking about sin and jesus christ and wtv doesn't mean its a christian game lol.