Kingdom Come: Deliverance II

Kingdom Come: Deliverance II

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Azor Feb 2 @ 6:15pm
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Anti-woke ppl after this game releases
"It's good so it isn't woke!"

It happened to Bauldur's Gate 3 and it was infinitely more woke than KCD2 could ever be. It will happen to KCD2 too.
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Originally posted by Dreaming Prince:
and no, i didnt give them any money.
No one asked.
Originally posted by NickelToe:
Originally posted by ThiccSkull:

Ah of course, the game that won truckloads of awards and sold the most games in 2023 was actually crappy and cringe

Winning an award in the game industry is not a brag, especially since 2010.

Its like a warning. The wrong people like the game (the game journalists who hate everything about gaming except its the largest entertainment industry to co-opt.)

So brag away at praise from wolves for sheep.

This guy gets it.

Winning an award from the freaks in charge of the gaming industry is like a warning not to buy.
Originally posted by Azor:
"It's good so it isn't woke!"

It happened to Bauldur's Gate 3 and it was infinitely more woke than KCD2 could ever be. It will happen to KCD2 too.
BG3 had a head start with massive D&D community. It had mixed views from Baldur's Gate community, due to drastical changes to original first two games, even at core gameplay. Either way D&D community knew how D&D works and how DEI/LGBTQ+ is part of it, so they didn't expect BG3 to be any different in that aspect as it was advertised as "true tabletop experience" and "true 5e" implemented into a video game. That was one of the major selling features.
Originally posted by Swamp Fox:
Originally posted by Laurence Fishblurgh:
What a fantastic comment. The awards are well deserved.

Can you explain why having a face scanned drag queen character and bestiality/constant sexualization (more than any mainstream game ever?) is not "woke"?

Can you explain why I am an extremist for not wanting these things in mainstream entertainment products?

You love to pat the bandwagon on the back as you join...Can you rationalize your position?

Funny how I knew I'd see "this profile is private" before even checking. What is it about leftists and secrecy?
You're reaching very hard just because I've appreciated a very reasonable and mature comment. But If the shoe fits, wear it.
See, this is the exact problem as with the woke crowd: "Whoever is not with me is against me".
Mabe you can show me where exactly I denied your oppinion.
And btw: How does a private profile affect anything that was said or written? Seems like a pretextual reason for whatever. I like my privacy, it's as easy as that.
Last edited by Laurence I of Yharnam; Feb 4 @ 4:59pm
stmpunk Feb 4 @ 4:40pm 
Originally posted by UnholyDentist:
Originally posted by Azor:
"It's good so it isn't woke!"

It happened to Bauldur's Gate 3 and it was infinitely more woke than KCD2 could ever be. It will happen to KCD2 too.
BG3 had a head start with massive D&D community. It had mixed views from Baldur's Gate community, due to drastical changes to original first two games, even at core gameplay. Either way D&D community knew how D&D works and how DEI/LGBTQ+ is part of it, so they didn't expect BG3 to be any different in that aspect as it was advertised as "true tabletop experience" and "true 5e" implemented into a video game. That was one of the major selling features.
problem is 5e and current Wizards of the Coast, which's DEI riddled with astonishing incompetence to recreate anything as advanced as AD&D or D&D 3.5 - I knew it would be trash the moment it was announced to use 5e. This same rule applies to the new Bloodlines game being developed, current White Wolf's just as broken as Wizards, and the new PnP system's utter trash. There's no avoiding these because all PnP have been downgraded into simplistic systems for children & low IQ people while pushing hard on woke agenda...

The OG BD games are still far better, if they update graphics & engine for those + NVWN, BG3 will disappear from history....
Last edited by stmpunk; Feb 4 @ 4:42pm
Ginebro Feb 4 @ 4:42pm 
You could kill everyone in BG3, you can become 100% anti woke, there's no choice here, i would pay for a mod to kill Hans.
stmpunk Feb 4 @ 4:46pm 
Originally posted by Ginebro:
You could kill everyone in BG3, you can become 100% anti woke, there's no choice here, i would pay for a mod to kill Hans.
:steamfacepalm:
BG3 is the worst example possible, as I said time and time again, that game is bad, KCD has pretty good systems going for it, despite the annoying woke-zombie insertions... Anyway, you all should learn to stop pre-ordering or buying games from any company that gets upgraded into triple A without first learning how the game is.... While you keep this practice, you'll remain getting conned and than complain on the webs like fools...

I watched same fools do this with Cyberpunk 2077, I successfully skipped that crap, saw this with Fallout 76, saw this with Fallout 4, saw this with Starfield, now with KCD2.... As a famous quote goes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp0Km-H8TOQ
Last edited by stmpunk; Feb 4 @ 4:48pm
Originally posted by stmpunk:
Originally posted by Ginebro:
You could kill everyone in BG3, you can become 100% anti woke, there's no choice here, i would pay for a mod to kill Hans.
:steamfacepalm:
BG3 is the worst example possible, as I said time and time again, that game is bad, KCD has pretty good systems going for it, despite the annoying woke-zombie insertions... Anyway, you all should learn to stop pre-ordering or buying games from any company that gets upgraded into triple A without first learning how the game is.... While you keep this practice, you'll remain getting conned and than complain on the webs like fools...

I watched same fools do this with Cyberpunk 2077, I successfully skipped that crap, saw this with Fallout 76, saw this with Fallout 4, saw this with Starfield, now with KCD2.... As a famous quote goes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp0Km-H8TOQ

BG3 is bad how?
Originally posted by stmpunk:
Originally posted by UnholyDentist:
BG3 had a head start with massive D&D community. It had mixed views from Baldur's Gate community, due to drastical changes to original first two games, even at core gameplay. Either way D&D community knew how D&D works and how DEI/LGBTQ+ is part of it, so they didn't expect BG3 to be any different in that aspect as it was advertised as "true tabletop experience" and "true 5e" implemented into a video game. That was one of the major selling features.
problem is 5e and current Wizards of the Coast, which's DEI riddled with astonishing incompetence to recreate anything as advanced as AD&D or D&D 3.5 - I knew it would be trash the moment it was announced to use 5e. This same rule applies to the new Bloodlines game being developed, current White Wolf's just as broken as Wizards, and the new PnP system's utter trash. There's no avoiding these because all PnP have been downgraded into simplistic systems for children & low IQ people while pushing hard on woke agenda...

The OG BD games are still far better, if they update graphics & engine for those + NVWN, BG3 will disappear from history....
I never was a big D&D fan, did like to play old school Bioware games from pre-golden era (e.g. BG, NWN, IWD), but that's how far my interest in D&D has progressed, I never touched any physical tabletop games. When I pointed out my surprise about very peculiar LGBTQ+ presence in BG3, people with decades long D&D experience have told me that D&D was always this kind of fantasy world with everyone being sort of equal, very minimal racism, and pansexuality. I admit I enjoyed the freedom of choices and even the combat in BG3, but I didn't like much how there was no presence of social negativity, such as racism, ethnic differences, various sexual interests. Not because I think those things are great, but because they are part of humanity and human nature, and shutting them out of media just feels forced filtering and unnatural. For example, in Dragon Age (races on bad terms with each other, different sexual interests, etc.), you get those things and it makes the world feel more alive and natural. This mainstream concept of making everything equal and generic, just creates a boring unnatural world imo. Which is one of the important things that made old school games better.
Last edited by UnholyDentist; Feb 5 @ 4:40am
stmpunk Feb 5 @ 5:36am 
Originally posted by UnholyDentist:
Originally posted by stmpunk:
problem is 5e and current Wizards of the Coast, which's DEI riddled with astonishing incompetence to recreate anything as advanced as AD&D or D&D 3.5 - I knew it would be trash the moment it was announced to use 5e. This same rule applies to the new Bloodlines game being developed, current White Wolf's just as broken as Wizards, and the new PnP system's utter trash. There's no avoiding these because all PnP have been downgraded into simplistic systems for children & low IQ people while pushing hard on woke agenda...

The OG BD games are still far better, if they update graphics & engine for those + NVWN, BG3 will disappear from history....
I never was a big D&D fan, did like to play old school Bioware games from pre-golden era (e.g. BG, NWN, IWD), but that's how far my interest in D&D has progressed, I never touched any physical tabletop games. When I pointed out my surprise about very peculiar LGBTQ+ presence in BG3, people with decades long D&D experience have told me that D&D was always this kind of fantasy world with everyone being sort of equal, very minimal racism, and pansexuality. I admit I enjoyed the freedom of choices and even the combat in BG3, but I didn't like much how there was no presence of social negativity, such as racism, ethnic differences, various sexual interests. Not because I think those things are great, but because they are part of humanity and human nature, and shutting them out of media just feels forced filtering and unnatural. For example, in Dragon Age (races on bad terms with each other, different sexual interests, etc.), you get those things and it makes the world feel more alive and natural. This mainstream concept of making everything equal and generic, just creates a boring unnatural world imo. Which is one of the important things that made old school games better.
sexuality in D&D was never important... That's where the people that told you whatever were going out of their way and actually lying...

When you have a story of a character that is bent into "greater than self" romance and sexuality are both utterly absurd to be focused upon at any given time. Thing with D&D is that the players & the GM do have full control, so if they want to make it into Skyrim weeb hentai dreamworld, they can...

Social negativity has always been in D&D too, in fact that was a core part of the world building, it was removed by woke nutjobs in edition 5, prior to that there were extreme racial issues, specially with "inherently evil" races.

Originally, for instance, a Tiefling had multiple dice checks to even interact socially... I know for I almost always played Tieflings, loved the duality of the inherent evil within, which was also removed.
Last edited by stmpunk; Feb 5 @ 5:39am
Merle Feb 5 @ 5:37am 
Watching this in real time lol so funny
stmpunk Feb 5 @ 5:41am 
Originally posted by Merle:
Watching this in real time lol so funny
here, have some attention alms
[EXDr] Frank Feb 5 @ 10:56am 
Let's be real: Gamers (or as you call them "anti-woke people") didn't buy 6 of the biggest AAA releases over the last year --- instead we watched and let them crash and burn over. We watched in real time as their studies shut down, their employees got laid off and their stock prices tanked.

We all looked around at each other and realized that there were millions of us and none of them, the mythical "modern audience."

Turns out that "gamers are (not) dead."

The standards have shifted. The overton window is swinging back hard to the right. People realize the purchasing power they have and they are going to use it to push video games back into the realm of normality (and out of the realm of LGBT+ romance, butch lesbians, animal sex, DEI writing, ugly women and woke nonsense that bears no resemblance to reality).

KCD2 looks like a great game that was forced to include gay sex and black people by their parent company. When pressed on the issue, the dev called the people asking questions Nazis and then posted a painting of 3 kings who visited the baby Jesus in bed together, implying that they were ♥♥♥♥♥ and mocking Christians.

Normal men are disgusted by gax behaviour. It activates the same involuntary disgust reaction that looking at a bucker of maggots eating rotten flesh does. That's a scientific fact. Look it up yourself. I am sick of explaining it to closeted gays and liars.

Some men are going to overcome this disgust and play KCD2 because there are so few good games coming from big studios at the moment.

Others will not. They will play one of the thousands games in their backlogs, many of them classics and almost all of them free of DEI and other things that disgust them. They will feel like they helped fund this counter-culture DEV and make me rich by funding his first project and then as soon as he sold Warhorse, he gave us all a big middle finger, laughing all the way to the bank.

Similarly, some gaming "journalists" (Eurogamer) will hold a grudge against the DEV because of the based things he said before. Others will be more pragmatic (PC Gamer) and realize that the LGBT+ agenda has been rejected in video games and so they need to be with whatever they can get at this point.

That's it. The reaction is going to be mixed.

And to the extent that the game does well, it will be IN SPITE of the DEI elements, not because of it. You have to be delusional not to realize that.

This is a game with a huge existing fanbase and that should have easily sold 20 million copies and because of this DEI / black / gay controversy, I would be surprised if it surpasses the 8 million that the original sold.

Ultimately, there are literally thousands of other other DEVs out there in Eastern Europe in small teams working on new PC games that won't be woke... it will only be a matter of time before one emerges to sell games to the millions of fans that Warhorse abandoned and lied to.

I suspect that we'll all be a but more careful about the next random "based" guy from Eastern Europe that we all collectively decide to make a millionaire based on his promises of fighting the politically correct cabal of gaming journalists and AAA studios...

I think we'll all do a better background check next time.
Laub Feb 5 @ 11:00am 



Originally posted by Azor:
"It's good so it isn't woke!"

It happened to Bauldur's Gate 3 and it was infinitely more woke than KCD2 could ever be. It will happen to KCD2 too.

Woke or not or whatever

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3421712096
Last edited by Laub; Feb 5 @ 11:00am
Originally posted by EXDr Frank:
Let's be real: Gamers (or as you call them "anti-woke people") didn't buy 6 of the biggest AAA releases over the last year --- instead we watched and let them crash and burn over. We watched in real time as their studies shut down, their employees got laid off and their stock prices tanked.

We all looked around at each other and realized that there were millions of us and none of them, the mythical "modern audience."

Turns out that "gamers are (not) dead."

The standards have shifted. The overton window is swinging back hard to the right. People realize the purchasing power they have and they are going to use it to push video games back into the realm of normality (and out of the realm of LGBT+ romance, butch lesbians, animal sex, DEI writing, ugly women and woke nonsense that bears no resemblance to reality).

KCD2 looks like a great game that was forced to include gay sex and black people by their parent company. When pressed on the issue, the dev called the people asking questions Nazis and then posted a painting of 3 kings who visited the baby Jesus in bed together, implying that they were ♥♥♥♥♥ and mocking Christians.

Normal men are disgusted by gax behaviour. It activates the same involuntary disgust reaction that looking at a bucker of maggots eating rotten flesh does. That's a scientific fact. Look it up yourself. I am sick of explaining it to closeted gays and liars.

Some men are going to overcome this disgust and play KCD2 because there are so few good games coming from big studios at the moment.

Others will not. They will play one of the thousands games in their backlogs, many of them classics and almost all of them free of DEI and other things that disgust them. They will feel like they helped fund this counter-culture DEV and make me rich by funding his first project and then as soon as he sold Warhorse, he gave us all a big middle finger, laughing all the way to the bank.

Similarly, some gaming "journalists" (Eurogamer) will hold a grudge against the DEV because of the based things he said before. Others will be more pragmatic (PC Gamer) and realize that the LGBT+ agenda has been rejected in video games and so they need to be with whatever they can get at this point.

That's it. The reaction is going to be mixed.

And to the extent that the game does well, it will be IN SPITE of the DEI elements, not because of it. You have to be delusional not to realize that.

This is a game with a huge existing fanbase and that should have easily sold 20 million copies and because of this DEI / black / gay controversy, I would be surprised if it surpasses the 8 million that the original sold.

Ultimately, there are literally thousands of other other DEVs out there in Eastern Europe in small teams working on new PC games that won't be woke... it will only be a matter of time before one emerges to sell games to the millions of fans that Warhorse abandoned and lied to.

I suspect that we'll all be a but more careful about the next random "based" guy from Eastern Europe that we all collectively decide to make a millionaire based on his promises of fighting the politically correct cabal of gaming journalists and AAA studios...

I think we'll all do a better background check next time.

This man cooked
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