Guys you might as well get used to DEI and Woke-ness in games

[Ghostpro71]

It's 2025 and it's not going away anytime soon. Companies want more modern audience. If they make it non-DEI , then the diverse community would be here spewing threads instead of you guys. So they can't win either way. So DEI it is. Atleast they're giving you options to not have it in your playthrough.

[Cyber_Chupacabra]

Where was the modern audience when Concord was released? Where was the modern audience when Dragon Age was released? These are two examples of games made specifically for YOU, yet both were effectively dead on arrival. You sure like to talk, but when it comes to actually supporting the cause and buying games specifically made for you, you’re nowhere to be found. And why didn’t you show up to vote in the USA? If you ask me, the modern audience is a myth.

[Iluvcheezcake]

There is no modern audience

[TripleJay]

I'm not sure why they even putting romances into video-games, in KCD1 i only visited those bathtube-girls one time just to see what happens. And the Therea Questline was out of interest aswell and quite unenjoyble sex-scene...you can't even see anything. There are better adult-games (and adult movies) to get you horney.

Maybe some diehard nerds need romances, but that's a real minority i would say. VideoGame Romances are just super unnecessary.

[Shield]

DEI is GOOD for gamers! ♥ Gaming should be a place for EVERYONE!

[Cyber_Chupacabra]

Also - most countries in Asia laughs at DEI and Westernians alphabet issues, most Eastern block CIS is laughing too, Middle East, Africa well lets not even go there. You want to sell less games, excluding these markets, sure, but dont expect to win any economy awards.

[Lancastrian]

Originally posted by Ghostpro71:

Originally posted by Lancastrian:

You're completely wrong. It's peaked and it is going away. Reality has kicked in and companies are going bust because of pandering to minorities; it's over.

You live in a dream world if you think this.

No, I live in the real world, which is the only one there is. You saying words to me doesn't change that fact. By any metric DEI is crawling back under it's rock; it's irrelevant what anyone thinks.

[Crimson Dawn]

No. The western game industry will other adapt to what gamers want or perish. They need us but we don't need them.

[Traumaturgy]

I think publishers should get used to not getting my money then.
I have over 100 games I bought on sales etc. and havent played yet (lack of time). I dont need new games, I can stop buying new stuff right now and probably I wont finish anything I have for next 10 years.
Companies need me more than I need them.

[Vagrant]

Originally posted by Kulin:

I could respect a person not wanting to see gay content, I could also respect that said person doesn't consume such content.

But i can not accept this american anti-woke propaganda parrots. Like a endless stakkado of the same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ flooding every community, turning it into a toxic, cultural wasteland like the US itself.

I really miss the time when Steam forums were about games and people were able to talk normally to eachother without this disgusting cult flooding everything.

If only games could return to being fun instead of being used as political tools from WEF/Liberal cult activists who feel the need to push their ESG/WOKE agendas onto the rest of us.

Strange how you complain as though the gamers are the problem though, just because they have a problem with eating the bugs and dont want to buy or play slop.

[Колбаска]

Originally posted by Traumaturgy:

I think publishers should get used to not getting my money then.
I have over 100 games I bought on sales etc. and havent played yet (lack of time). I dont need new games, I can stop buying new stuff right now and probably I wont finish anything I have for next 10 years.
Companies need me more than I need them.

Many people have it that way. Although I try to buy games when I have time for them. I also try not to play games immediately after the release, but to wait until the bugs are fixed and more additional content is made. Because I don't have enough time to play many games more than once, and the game immediately after release can spoil the experience.

[Scyriz]

Except the modern audience doesn't exist, why do you think any game made for them fails? there is not enough people in said modern audience to make anything other than maybe a small 100k to make indie game a profit. I mean the modern audience is prob the woke 1.6% of the USA that thinks there is more than 2 genders as thats who they are trying to appeal to, and those people are more worried about that activism than playing games. That 1.6 is quite a bit of people but yeah, Almost none of them play or have interest in games, so trying to cater to them is just a losing proposition.

In fact second any game says its being made for the modern audience, 99% of gamers just tune out and go nope, and forget it exists. Gamers want fun games without woke crap shovbed into it where its not wanted or needed, devs need to wake up and get with the times, as the time of woke being accepted is over and its time to move away from it entirely. Just ignore the 1% or less of your potental customers who will cry about it not existing, no one cares about them and neither should devs as they are such a small amount of people, and catering to them just harms your game and hurts sales as the 99% of normal gamers want nothing to do with the crap that 1% wants.

The message gamers are sending the last few years has been clear, these devs just keep sticking their heads in the sand and refuse to listen, and then end up going under trying to fight against the way the tide is going. I do not feel sorry for any studio that closes due to a game failing due to the woke trash they put into it, they made their grave now they have to lie in it, should have read the room better.

[Колбаска]

Originally posted by Vagrant:

Originally posted by Kulin:

I could respect a person not wanting to see gay content, I could also respect that said person doesn't consume such content.

But i can not accept this american anti-woke propaganda parrots. Like a endless stakkado of the same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ flooding every community, turning it into a toxic, cultural wasteland like the US itself.

I really miss the time when Steam forums were about games and people were able to talk normally to eachother without this disgusting cult flooding everything.

If only games could return to being fun instead of being used as political tools from WEF/Liberal cult activists who feel the need to push their ESG/WOKE agendas onto the rest of us.

Strange how you complain as though the gamers are the problem though, just because they have a problem with eating the bugs and dont want to buy or play slop.

There are many such games. If you want, I can add a theme that I created for those who loved the first warhorse game and want to play politics-free games.

[Sgt. Flaw]

The DEI clubs on reddit..

Steam anti-DEI thinks they're winning because nk one but then posts on steam....

It really isn't a big deal to the measures KCD 2 took it...Dragon Age needed a red flag but giving an option for gay people when straights have 100 wenches to bang isn't a big deal...

Musa sucks...but again, whatever. If they have to check a token black dude off the list in order to convince investors the games general demographic is wide enough for a return then so be it. I've seen great games have much bigger plot holes than this.

Stalker 2 made it happen without DEI and we all know them being Ukrainian was their form of DEI....AND im still waiting for A-life. Their just isn't going to be any more huge budget games without inclusion in some ways.





Anti DEI people can cry all they want but until they get off the steam forums and put together a few hundred million they aren't going to win.

[Scyriz]

Originally posted by Колбаска:

Originally posted by Vagrant:

If only games could return to being fun instead of being used as political tools from WEF/Liberal cult activists who feel the need to push their ESG/WOKE agendas onto the rest of us.

Strange how you complain as though the gamers are the problem though, just because they have a problem with eating the bugs and dont want to buy or play slop.

There are many such games. If you want, I can add a theme that I created for those who loved the first warhorse game and want to play politics-free games.

Yeah if you look into the indie scene you can find lots of non-woke games the problem is its invading and infecting the AAA games the ones that most people have their eyes on thats the problem. Like I expect GTA6 to be a woke crapshow from everything I heard about it so far. Its a big reason I think why they delayed it rockstar went "Oh crap, woke is not hot anymore we need to rethink this and remove most of it or were screwed" They already said they were going to tone down the jokes, which sucks cuz the series was known for crude jokes.

[Cyber_Chupacabra]

Originally posted by Sgt. Flaw:

The DEI clubs on reddit..



Anti DEI people can cry all they want but until they get off the steam forums and put together a few hundred million they aren't going to win.

We dont need to win, we can go play any fun game made in Asia/Japan/Korea and what not and you will have to try really hard to mobilise to keep Concords and Vileguards afloat. Oh right, you cant and its causing to giants like Ubisoft and EA to collapse.