pro tip: If you (henry) don't want to be gay or bi, just don't be

[kRIEG_elf]

it's an rpg

yw

[Cassidy0z]

Originally posted by Paddy:

Originally posted by RED-Life:

It's an RPG where you play as Henry, not yourself. Henry is Straight in the first game. Now, retcon as bi. And yes, your Henry will be bi regardless of your intention to be either straight or gay.

You don't choose your sexuality like you do a pair of socks. Either you always been straight/gay/or bi. Unless of course, you believe that being gay/straight/bi is a choice.

There is no such thing as bi, gay etc. There are only human beings and we all have different inclinations. Some are born with inclinations, good and bad and some are influenced over-time. Henry had inclinations to commit many immoral acts in the first game, fornication, murder, theft etc. Same sex acts in KCD2 is just an extension of these choices. They will in no way be promoted which is why it's so isolated. You will still be urged to live as a Christian in the game but of course we will all end up commiting murder, theft etc

^ This person gets it.

[Traumaturgy]

Better pro tip: Dont buy this game

[RED-Life]

Originally posted by Paddy:

Originally posted by RED-Life:

It's an RPG where you play as Henry, not yourself. Henry is Straight in the first game. Now, retcon as bi. And yes, your Henry will be bi regardless of your intention to be either straight or gay.

You don't choose your sexuality like you do a pair of socks. Either you always been straight/gay/or bi. Unless of course, you believe that being gay/straight/bi is a choice.

There is no such thing as bi, gay etc. There are only human beings and we all have different inclinations. Some are born with inclinations, good and bad and some are influenced over-time. Henry had inclinations to commit many immoral acts in the first game, fornication, murder, theft etc. Same sex acts in KCD2 is just an extension of these choices. They will in no way be promoted which is why it's so isolated. You will still be urged to live as a Christian in the game but of course we will all end up commiting murder, theft etc

So just like his choices to commit murder or other sins, he can choose to be gay. Is that what you're saying?

[Honey Bun]

They are just worried they won’t be able to overcome their lust for men and do the gay romance option. They really try hard to repress their sexuality

[Vertical Mouse]

I will just say "no ♥♥♥♥" when I start the game.
And then I will probably lube my Hans, idk.

[Paddy]

Originally posted by RED-Life:

Originally posted by Paddy:

There is no such thing as bi, gay etc. There are only human beings and we all have different inclinations. Some are born with inclinations, good and bad and some are influenced over-time. Henry had inclinations to commit many immoral acts in the first game, fornication, murder, theft etc. Same sex acts in KCD2 is just an extension of these choices. They will in no way be promoted which is why it's so isolated. You will still be urged to live as a Christian in the game but of course we will all end up commiting murder, theft etc

So just like his choices to commit murder or other sins, he can choose to be gay. Is that what you're saying?

The choice for same sex behavior in this game is so trivialized it's similar to Henry going to the bath houses in the first game. Both are trivililized because they are seen as extensions of degenerate behavior. If the game actually allowed you to pursue this in a serious manner and promote it like we see with Assassin's Creed that would be different however KCD has always been a game where the Christian world-view is promoted through the behavior of it's virtuous characters. Johanka being the perfect example.

This is the most Christian game i have ever played. RDR2 had hints of it when you talk to the Nun and Brother to change your wicked ways and seek redemption which becomes the main goal at the end of the game. To right the wrongs of the past. To do good. This game however portrays the reality of late Medieval Bohemia and the world-view that shaped it. With Assassin's Creed you are given a medieval skin but all the characters behave in a way that is relatable to modern secular sensibilities to appeal to an audience that perceives this era as the dark ages.

[Bech]

Originally posted by kRIEG_elf:

it's an rpg

yw

"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the Law"- satanist Aleister Crowley. The most evil man to have lived in the last 200 years.

[RED-Life]

Originally posted by Paddy:

Originally posted by RED-Life:

So just like his choices to commit murder or other sins, he can choose to be gay. Is that what you're saying?

The choice for same sex behavior in this game is so trivialized it's similar to Henry going to the bath houses in the first game. Both are trivililized because they are seen as extensions of degenerate behavior. If the game actually allowed you to pursue this in a serious manner and promote it like we see with Assassin's Creed that would be different however KCD has always been a game where the Christian world-view is promoted through the behavior of it's virtuous characters. Johanka being the perfect example.

This is the most Christian game i have ever played. RDR2 had hints of it when you talk to the Nun and Brother to change your wicked ways and seek redemption which becomes the main goal at the end of the game. To right the wrongs of the past. To do good. This game however portrays the reality of late Medieval Bohemia and the world-view that shaped it. With Assassin's Creed you are given a medieval skin but all the characters behave in a way that is relatable to modern secular sensibilities to appeal to an audience that perceives this era as the dark ages.

Bro stop putting your replies through Chat GPT and answer a yes or no question.

[Paddy]

Originally posted by RED-Life:

Originally posted by Paddy:

The choice for same sex behavior in this game is so trivialized it's similar to Henry going to the bath houses in the first game. Both are trivililized because they are seen as extensions of degenerate behavior. If the game actually allowed you to pursue this in a serious manner and promote it like we see with Assassin's Creed that would be different however KCD has always been a game where the Christian world-view is promoted through the behavior of it's virtuous characters. Johanka being the perfect example.

This is the most Christian game i have ever played. RDR2 had hints of it when you talk to the Nun and Brother to change your wicked ways and seek redemption which becomes the main goal at the end of the game. To right the wrongs of the past. To do good. This game however portrays the reality of late Medieval Bohemia and the world-view that shaped it. With Assassin's Creed you are given a medieval skin but all the characters behave in a way that is relatable to modern secular sensibilities to appeal to an audience that perceives this era as the dark ages.

Bro stop putting your replies through Chat GPT and answer a yes or no question.

If you actually believe this was through Chat GPT I am impressed. I answered the question to make you understand the type of game KCD is. To put it mildly it's a Christian game that will only promote the Christian world-view as the right choice. This bias is evident in it's writing, narrative and portrayal of Characters in the world

[Bech]

Originally posted by RED-Life:

So just like his choices to commit murder or other sins, he can choose to be gay. Is that what you're saying?

If that's his point, then he is wrong. Whether intentionally to mislead you or not? Don't know - don't care. He's wrong.

Henry is an archetype: a White Christian heterosexual male on the Hero's Journey. See: Hero With 1000 Faces for reference.

It's not about "choice" - that is what they are trying to sell it as.

It is about subverting a strong White male Christian heterosexual archetype, because ultimately these people are Red Guards and this is a Struggle Session. White heterosexual males were dubbed "the enemy" and they retreated to gaming, where they made their own culture.

White heterosexual males - Christians in particular - are not to be permitted anything. Nothing to take pride in, nothing to rally behind or have as a role model... not even a fictional character in a historical setting in our own homelands.

[Dragonirian]

I realize many people here don't know this, so here is some useful information:
Gay sex is not an option for straight people.
We don't get a dialogue line floating in our heads we have to actively refuse to speak when we talk to other men.
Being offered gay sex is not something that happens to us normally either.
If a character gets an option for gay sex - this character is not straight.

[RED-Life]

Originally posted by Paddy:

Originally posted by RED-Life:

Bro stop putting your replies through Chat GPT and answer a yes or no question.

If you actually believe this was through Chat GPT I am impressed. I answered the question to make you understand the type of game KCD is. To put it mildly it's a Christian game that will only promote the Christian world-view as the right choice. This bias is evident in it's writing, narrative and portrayal of Characters in the world

You know its funny. Everytime I bring up how Henry being gay could only be implemented due to Henry choosing to be gay/bi, everyone folds immediately, they stop replying, or they avoid admitting it by changing topics and/or make the argument that Henry was never straight.

[Lordofriva]

"henry is an established character", "he is straight, not bi, not gay", "because we don't want to portray a character who is bi or gay"

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Lordofriva:

"henry is an established character", "he is straight, not bi, not gay", "because we don't want to portray a character who is bi or gay"

Exactly this. The things we do as Henry as little effect on the narrative. It's just for our own amusement similar to going on rampages in GTA. The game ultimately steers Henry toward the Chivalrous route which in the end is what we all want

[brisket]

Originally posted by Lordofriva:

"henry is an established character", "he is straight, not bi, not gay", "because we don't want to portray a character who is bi or gay"

so then dont
lol