Understand angry players

[Колбаска]

I see that it is difficult for people to understand the feelings of others, and therefore I will try to convey them to you through some kind of analogy. Imagine you ordered a huge cake for a wedding, last time you ordered a cake from the same company and it turned out amazing, and now you trust the company. Professional pastry chefs tried to make a second cake and it came out even better than the first one. But when carrying it to the car to deliver it to you, a bird pooped on it and it also touched the doorway a little and it was slightly distorted and smeared. They decided not to tell you about it, but when it was delivered and you started asking what the hell was going on and that you didn't want to take this cake because it was ruined, they started telling you that the cake wasn't ruined, it was the chef's idea, and generally eat and don't be indignant because the cake is still very tasty. If you don't like the view, just put it so that you can't see the bird ♥♥♥♥ and the edge that hit the doorway.

[brisket]

Originally posted by Dragonirian:

Originally posted by something about truth:

what is with y'all and these metaphors

Healthy people feel disgusted when seeing displays of homosexuality.
Therefore the comparisons to disgusting stuff.

womp womp

[Колбаска]

Originally posted by something about truth:

Originally posted by Колбаска:

I see that it is difficult for people to understand the feelings of others, and therefore I will try to convey them to you through some kind of analogy. Imagine you ordered a huge cake for a wedding, last time you ordered a cake from the same company and it turned out amazing, and now you trust the company. Professional pastry chefs tried to make a second cake and it came out even better than the first one. But when carrying it to the car to deliver it to you, a bird pooped on it and it also touched the doorway a little and it was slightly distorted and smeared. They decided not to tell you about it, but when it was delivered and you started asking what the hell was going on and that you didn't want to take this cake because it was ruined, they started telling you that the cake wasn't ruined, it was the chef's idea, and generally eat and don't be indignant because the cake is still very tasty. If you don't like the view, just put it so that you can't see the bird ♥♥♥♥ and the edge that hit the doorway.

what is with y'all and these metaphors

I want to convey the position of those who defend their opinion to those who do not understand why everyone is angry. Players do not read large texts or rarely read them, and such short allegorical posts read much better. I also write through a translator and large posts may contain more semantic errors.

[Wise]

Nonesense allegory. The game is not worse because they added option to be gay and the mali character may enrich the game even.
If you feel the game is worse because of the inclusions i'm afraid you are a phobe.
It is another thing to be against impairing devs freedom by forcing them to do something - whatever include or remove. But the allegory does not fit that at all so it is not the case here.

[Cassidy0z]

This has to be the most horrible analogy.

Here's the first reason why. There is no other cake than the original one you bought except that it looks even better. That's the entire difference. You are trying to compare reality with game options which can't be done. There is but one reality, in game mechanics there can be many. In your example nothing can change what happened to the cake in reality, in game mechanics there are paths one of which is that same cake that you always had to begin with and there is no hitting the door, the hitting the door thing and bird poop would merely be another path that you wouldn't even see.

[Darkstorn]

Originally posted by Колбаска:

I want to convey the position of those who defend their opinion to those who do not understand why everyone is angry.

Everyone is angry? What kind of a weird mob mentality is that. If everyone were truly angry, you'd have everyone agreeing with you and joining in your crusade or something, but that's clearly not happening.

You're a "vocal" minority. Though your voice is wasted on the Steam forum: No reasonable person would ever take into account what anyone said here.

[Колбаска]

Originally posted by Darkstorn:

Originally posted by Колбаска:

I want to convey the position of those who defend their opinion to those who do not understand why everyone is angry.

Everyone is angry? What kind of a weird mob mentality is that. If everyone were truly angry, you'd have everyone agreeing with you and joining in your crusade or something, but that's clearly not happening.

You're a "vocal" minority. Though your voice is wasted on the Steam forum: No reasonable person would ever take into account what anyone said here.

I see something else on the forum. I see constant topics with the cancellation of purchases from different players that are simply not discussed, but go down because the player has lost his job and left. I see around me and in the Internet space a huge number of people who also do not want to be imposed. If my voice doesn't mean anything, then you don't have to worry. I will say more, I am sure that the game will be wonderful and will be successful. The number of players who have stayed and are not in the topic is enough for this. But personally, I and other concerned players will vote with our wallets. All we can do is not buy the game and inform people who don't know about the latest developments in the game.

[Darkstorn]

Originally posted by Колбаска:

I see something else on the forum. I see constant topics with the cancellation of purchases from different players that are simply not discussed, but go down because the player has lost his job and left. I see around me and in the Internet space a huge number of people who also do not want to be imposed. If my voice doesn't mean anything, then you don't have to worry. I will say more, I am sure that the game will be wonderful and will be successful. The number of players who have stayed and are not in the topic is enough for this. But personally, I and other concerned players will vote with our wallets. All we can do is not buy the game and inform people who don't know about the latest developments in the game.

This forum is actually meaningless in the scheme of things. If you think Steam discussion forums are in any way representative of the user base, think again: You are being delusional.

It takes a specific leap to go talk about a game in a discussion, and another to start crying about it. The large majority of consumers NEVER take the time to write a SINGLE thing in discussions about the product: They will only be busy consuming the product.

It takes a special case to even care about "the latest developments in the game:" And they already agree with you. So in effect what you're doing is staying inside a small echo chamber.

TLDR: Go for it, pour your heart out. But you are wasting your life away in a discussion forum crying about a video game, when you could be doing meaningful things. Like playing video games or giving attention to your spouse (oh right, forgot.)

[Kufruk]

Originally posted by Deadly Dan:

Originally posted by Kufruk:

ok, you are worm level degenarate Nazi.

So why should I go to a concentration camp then? Do you just want to kill everyone who writes a comment you don't like?

You should go there to get educated. no one wants to put you there.
Not like some others would put me there still nowadays for beeing part jewish
Not like 80% of my grandma family was actually put there (or in similar)
You can go there just to watch. Watch and learn. Learn what happens with the world when you want to dicate the one opinion to be better than anything else .
If you do not learn anything there, you are not worth of being called a human.

[splaniden]

I think it's more like:
You go to a restaurant and order their R. R. Pepper and Artichoke Tomato soup.
HOLY SHHH, it's the best tomato soup you ever had in your life. WTH? How could something as simple as tomato soup taste soooo gooooooood?
You come back a month later and the soup de jour once again is the same soup.
You order it and it's JUST AS AMAZING as last time.
You demand to know the recipe!
Turns out there's also Roasted Red Peppers in it. "Wait... R. R. Pepper stands for Roasted Red Peppers? Ewwwww!! Gross!!!! BAIT AND SWITCH!!!".

I understand the issue gamers have with AAA games the past few years, but I really do NOT feel there's an Identity Marxist agenda being insidiously pushed in _this_ game. At the very least, I'm willing to see some gameplay before making a decision.

Now, if the game comes and there's a
Trigger warning disavowing Christianity
An option to select Henry's pronouns,
All of the women have uni-brows except for that one pink haired essential character with a septum ring wearing a t-shirt that says "Proud 2B a Witch",
The Black NPC's idle chatter is, "What's up homeboy?" as he break-dances to Hip Hop music
And every discussion in the game centers around eating the rich

... then I'll have a problem.

[Колбаска]

Originally posted by Darkstorn:

Originally posted by Колбаска:

I see something else on the forum. I see constant topics with the cancellation of purchases from different players that are simply not discussed, but go down because the player has lost his job and left. I see around me and in the Internet space a huge number of people who also do not want to be imposed. If my voice doesn't mean anything, then you don't have to worry. I will say more, I am sure that the game will be wonderful and will be successful. The number of players who have stayed and are not in the topic is enough for this. But personally, I and other concerned players will vote with our wallets. All we can do is not buy the game and inform people who don't know about the latest developments in the game.

This forum is actually meaningless in the scheme of things. If you think Steam discussion forums are in any way representative of the user base, think again: You are being delusional.

It takes a specific leap to go talk about a game in a discussion, and another to start crying about it. The large majority of consumers NEVER take the time to write a SINGLE thing in discussions about the product: They will only be busy consuming the product.

It takes a special case to even care about "the latest developments in the game:" And they already agree with you. So in effect what you're doing is staying inside a small echo chamber.

TLDR: Go for it, pour your heart out. But you are wasting your life away in a discussion forum crying about a video game, when you could be doing meaningful things. Like playing video games or giving attention to your spouse (oh right, forgot.)

But then why are you wasting your time proving this to me on a forum that no one is interested in?

I said in other topics that none of my friends follow the steam forums and no one writes. I said that (now) forty people know about the game news from me. Three of them will buy the game no matter what, the rest will either wait for events to develop or will not buy for sure. If it wasn't for the steam forum, I wouldn't know what was added to the game and my friends wouldn't know, so forums aren't useless.

About the conversations on the forum. I'm staying here to get news and to tell other players why the fans of the game are having such a reaction.

[Darkstorn]

Originally posted by Колбаска:

But then why are you wasting your time proving this to me on a forum that no one is interested in?

I'm doing it for entertainment, so it's not a waste for me: I doubt you people crying for the game can say the same.

"About the conversations on the forum. I'm staying here to get news and to tell other players why the fans of the game are having such a reaction."

I don't think you're fans of the game: Most of you haven't even really played the first one. You keep forgetting the first game had gay people too.

[Actalo]

Originally posted by Almewt:

The original game had heavy Christian themes, and the overwhelming majority of white male Christians are gay or closeted gays. I don't really understand the outrage.

So places like Poland, Hungary, Romania, Russia, Croatia, etc.. they're majority "closeted gays"?

I had no idea.

BTW, just by watching previews it's easy to see KCD2 has more Christian themes then KCD and actual game mechanics involving real Christian prayer.

[Ba$ed]

Excellent, OP.

[nda]

OP is a privated profile coward who has DEI in his game library. A hypocrite.

[Колбаска]

Originally posted by Darkstorn:

Originally posted by Колбаска:

But then why are you wasting your time proving this to me on a forum that no one is interested in?

I'm doing it for entertainment, so it's not a waste for me: I doubt you people crying for the game can say the same.

"About the conversations on the forum. I'm staying here to get news and to tell other players why the fans of the game are having such a reaction."

I don't think you're fans of the game: Most of you haven't even really played the first one. You keep forgetting the first game had gay people too.

We were, of course, in the same monastery. Very cool, by the way, beaten. There were also wonderful episodes about a family that "prays the wrong way" and about "demons"

For some reason, you've got it into your head that we're against any mention of gays or blacks. Gays were then but not of a traditional orientation. He was of a traditional orientation before the events of the first part and throughout the first part, and it makes perfect sense that he would be like that in the second part. There were no blacks in Bohemia. Why not make Musa an Arab? Why not make him a noble Mongol if you really need other races? The time is right for both options, but no, they took someone from Malta.