Kingdom Come: Deliverance II

Kingdom Come: Deliverance II

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Why was making Henry be optionally gay o important?
Most gamers I know didn't play KCD 1 and my I do have a bisexual best friend, I'm very Catholic but we were in the military together so now I'm stuck with him lol, who loved the first game and is not impressed with this change. Do the dev's not realize that a well written straight can be appealing to a gay person? They are going to lose money, how much I don't know but at least some and for what? My friend thinks this was for a shot at GOTY.
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Originally posted by hospitaller:
Do the dev's not realize that a well written straight can be appealing to a gay person?
Can a well written gay character be appealing to a straight person?
For the game, the legacy, the historical accuracy, it is just a terribly forced and inappropriate decision.

Your friend sounds smart. It probably is for a GOTY attempt to appease the Reddit echo-chamber, because that entire event is bought and owned. BG3 did the same thing. Had a ton of inappropriate content and paid money to have Hogwarts completely blacklisted, even though Hogwarts was the highest grossing, played, hours, game that year. Didn't even get a mention lol. What a joke.
Suggarnaut Jan 27 @ 6:24pm 
Originally posted by hospitaller:
Most gamers I know didn't play KCD 1 and my I do have a bisexual best friend, I'm very Catholic but we were in the military together so now I'm stuck with him lol, who loved the first game and is not impressed with this change. Do the dev's not realize that a well written straight can be appealing to a gay person? They are going to lose money, how much I don't know but at least some and for what? My friend thinks this was for a shot at GOTY.

It is about the game of the year awards. To be nominated you need to put diversity in it. That means minority or/and gay presentation in a quest-chain.

That is why Wukong Black Myth was not nominated last year. You know only monkey with a staff. Well, you can argument that the black presentation was there, what do i know.
Last edited by Suggarnaut; Jan 27 @ 6:27pm
Originally posted by Liquid Shadow Cop:
Originally posted by hospitaller:
Do the dev's not realize that a well written straight can be appealing to a gay person?
Can a well written gay character be appealing to a straight person?
Yes. I have gay friends in real life, but the forced decisions are still forced for this game. Henry is son to a devoted Blacksmith in Christian Bohemia. He would not be sneaking some fantasy risking being burned at the stake for 2% of the players to get some extremely niche kick.

Now if there were a side character that was gay, and got caught and was on the run or received punishment, that would heavily deepen the lore and realism. Just making Henry gay with Hans is TikTok comment section dooker decisions.
Ellydir Jan 27 @ 6:28pm 
Originally posted by hospitaller:
Most gamers I know didn't play KCD 1 and my I do have a bisexual best friend, I'm very Catholic but we were in the military together so now I'm stuck with him lol, who loved the first game and is not impressed with this change. Do the dev's not realize that a well written straight can be appealing to a gay person? They are going to lose money, how much I don't know but at least some and for what? My friend thinks this was for a shot at GOTY.
That's the funny thing. It wasn't important at all. Nobody cared, and the people buying the game still don't care.

Only a certain group of people decided to make a massive deal out of it. You should be asking them why is it so important to them.
Calubob Jan 27 @ 6:29pm 
Originally posted by CourtJesterCowboy:
Originally posted by Liquid Shadow Cop:
Can a well written gay character be appealing to a straight person?
Yes. I have gay friends in real life, but the forced decisions are still forced for this game. Henry is son to a devoted Blacksmith in Christian Bohemia. He would not be sneaking some fantasy risking being burned at the stake for 2% of the players to get some extremely niche kick.

Now if there were a side character that was gay, and got caught and was on the run or received punishment, that would heavily deepen the lore and realism. Just making Henry gay with Hans is TikTok comment section dooker decisions.
How is it forced when it is completely player driven? Like how?
because *THE MESSAGE*
Stall Jan 27 @ 6:33pm 
Henry was straight AF in the first game, him and his bro loved to go beaver hunting and now it sounds like they are gonna make those two have a gay romance...
Last edited by Stall; Jan 27 @ 6:33pm
Ellydir Jan 27 @ 6:33pm 
Originally posted by CourtJesterCowboy:
Originally posted by Liquid Shadow Cop:
Can a well written gay character be appealing to a straight person?
Yes. I have gay friends in real life, but the forced decisions are still forced for this game. Henry is son to a devoted Blacksmith in Christian Bohemia. He would not be sneaking some fantasy risking being burned at the stake for 2% of the players to get some extremely niche kick.

Now if there were a side character that was gay, and got caught and was on the run or received punishment, that would heavily deepen the lore and realism. Just making Henry gay with Hans is TikTok comment section dooker decisions.
Do I have good news for you. Henry gay with Hans is a complete hoax.

I wouldn't be surprised if the gay side character, whoever they are, was in trouble for it. And that's the kind of story I'd be interested in, one that depicts the risks and ramifications of getting found out in the middle ages.

Plus of course, the antagonist (or one of them) is gay. I'll be surprised if they don't make that into something you can use against him, or at least something you can mock him for.
Originally posted by CourtJesterCowboy:
Henry is son to a devoted Blacksmith in Christian Bohemia. He would not be sneaking some fantasy risking being burned at the stake for 2% of the players to get some extremely niche kick.
I doubt Henry would realistically agree to breaking into a monastery to murder a monk either (that's just at the top of the list of sins Henry is guilty of in KCD1) but that's just part of the game, you're not necessarily playing as a devout Christian.

Originally posted by CourtJesterCowboy:
Now if there were a side character that was gay, and got caught and was on the run or received punishment, that would heavily deepen the lore and realism.
But if it concerned Henry and your playthrough was dependent on not getting caught and it having ramifications that's an infinitely more interesting premise of a romance knowing there would be grave consequences.

I would at least wait until the game releases before writing it off as a token gay relationship that's being handled just to appease people, there's also potential for it to be a legit well written story line, at the very least the stakes are much higher than with a traditional romance.
Originally posted by hospitaller:
Most gamers I know didn't play KCD 1 and my I do have a bisexual best friend, I'm very Catholic but we were in the military together so now I'm stuck with him lol, who loved the first game and is not impressed with this change. Do the dev's not realize that a well written straight can be appealing to a gay person? They are going to lose money, how much I don't know but at least some and for what? My friend thinks this was for a shot at GOTY.

They are enslaved to investors and will do whatever the investors say.
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Date Posted: Jan 27 @ 6:15pm
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