Kingdom Come: Deliverance II

Kingdom Come: Deliverance II

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ThiccHunt Jan 27 @ 5:06pm
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Synthetic Man Reacts to Worth A Buy's Meltdown
If it's not a big deal, it wouldn't be in the game.
Also, By Mack's logic you can't call out No Man Sky dev or Todd Howard for lying cuz you should not care about lies. A game reviewer is saying that. What a joke!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7Deb1OYBBo&t=1115s
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Ellydir Jan 27 @ 9:31pm 
Originally posted by Riepah:
Originally posted by Ellydir:
Now, what would compell a black man from Mali to travel to Kuttenberg? Good question, and we don't really know. But you bet the guy has a backstory, that will be revealed when the game releases. Will his backstory be plausible? Maybe, I don't know. I'll see when I play it, and then I'll judge it.

Sure, but can you really blame people for not exactly giving them the benefit of the doubt, considering the state of the industry these days?
Personally, I also think there is a chance that both the gay romance and Musa could potentially be handled in a way that I wouldn't consider woke, but what are the odds? Until Vavra said that everyone is there for a reason and that he is sure people will agree with him after they actually play the game, I didn't even entertain the possibility that it wasn't ye olde virtue signalling and pandering to investors to be honest.
Well IIRC Vávra he claims to have personally pushed to have Musa in the game. So I must assume it is a story that he really wanted to tell, and therefore I expect that story to have a lot of thought and efford put into it.

Could that story fail to live up to my expectation? Sure. And if it becomes clear that the point really was to just have a black guy in the middle of Kuttenberg and the story was an afterthought to justify it, I'll gladly join you in calling it out. But I won't pass that judgement until I play it.

Now with all that said, if Musa really is there just to be there... Knowing Vávra as I do, I think it is highly unlikely to be a DEI insert, and instead very likely to be some form of trolling all the lack of diversity complaints from KCD.
Originally posted by Ellydir:
Originally posted by ThiccHunt:
No, he is not now, Straight don't have any gay thought, no thought = no option suddenly pop in their head. Guy has gay option thought that means he is not straight, that means some how Henry is mutated to bi now.
Are you treating every option in an RPG conversation as an in-character thought?
Does that mean that if a game contains a psychopathic response as an option in any conversation (and there often are some), the player character is inherently a psychopath hiding in plain sight? And that taking the "heroic" options is just keeping up your cover?
i would say that depend on which type character that you are roleplaying, 1 is the established one, like Henry, John Marston, Arthur Morgan, Demetrian Titus etc...... those characher's option should fit in their established lore.
2 is Tav in BG3 or the rogue trader in Warhammer 40000: Rogue Trader, this type character's choice should be more freely than the 1.
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Ellydir Jan 27 @ 9:44pm 
Originally posted by DogMeat:
Originally posted by Riepah:
"Historical accuracy" is mentioned as a feature on KCD's store page, right here, on Steam.
I don't think it's fair to call people extremists for expecting a game to adhere to the promised features, or for being upset if the sequel suddenly appears to go a different route.


People being upset about a black character in an allegedly historically accurate setting in Europe in 1400 is not the same as people being upset about a black character in a different game, like, say... Fallout or Cyberpunk or what have you.
Just like people being upset about Yasuke in Assassins' Creed Shadows isn't the same as simply "hating blacks". It's about the context, not the race.

I for one wouldn't want a white or asian character in a context where they don't belong, either. Does that make me an extremist?
Bingo.

Woke is just the new name for neo-Marxism.

What's the goal of neo-Marxism? Division of all western pillars. Class, race, religion, the very understanding of biology.

Force racial issues where none should exist. The developer literally agreed in the first game... he has now added a black person where 'none existed... PERIOD' due to pressure from outside sources. Even the people pushing it don't realize the goal is division. They've been convinced you add this stuff for 'inclusivity' which leads to 'more sales'.

Wokeness is cancer. The more the disease is understood... the more people will reject even a little bit.
Please keep your wacky politics and conspiracies in America, and don't export them to us. Thank you.
DogMeat Jan 27 @ 9:48pm 
Originally posted by Ellydir:
Please keep your wacky politics and conspiracies in America, and don't export them to us. Thank you.
Already been exported, already being implemented. I'd apologize for it... but apparently you like it.

I think the world is healing now, and that all of this is in decline, however it may not be in your neck of the woods and you may get to experience it first hand.

It starts out with just one character. Just one hidden scene. It eventually evolves to be all the characters and if you have a problem with it you're banned from the forums.

If you've somehow missed out on this whole process I envy you and I hope you don't get the 2014-2024 experience the west got.
Calubob Jan 27 @ 9:52pm 
Originally posted by Riepah:
Originally posted by Avatar of Prince Cmon:
Henry is still straight. Next question? Oh historical accuracy? Where can I find this story in history?

"Historical accuracy" is mentioned as a feature on KCD's store page, right here, on Steam.
I don't think it's fair to call people extremists for expecting a game to adhere to the promised features, or for being upset if the sequel suddenly appears to go a different route.


People being upset about a black character in an allegedly historically accurate setting in Europe in 1400 is not the same as people being upset about a black character in a different game, like, say... Fallout or Cyberpunk or what have you.
Just like people being upset about Yasuke in Assassins' Creed Shadows isn't the same as simply "hating blacks". It's about the context, not the race.

I for one wouldn't want a white or asian character in a context where they don't belong, either. Does that make me an extremist?
Real healing potions didn't exist back then. Historical accuracy ruined
Ellydir Jan 27 @ 9:57pm 
Originally posted by DogMeat:
Originally posted by Ellydir:
Please keep your wacky politics and conspiracies in America, and don't export them to us. Thank you.
Already been exported, already being implemented. I'd apologize for it... but apparently you like it.

I think the world is healing now, and that all of this is in decline, however it may not be in your neck of the woods and you may get to experience it first hand.

It starts out with just one character. Just one hidden scene. It eventually evolves to be all the characters and if you have a problem with it you're banned from the forums.

If you've somehow missed out on this whole process I envy you and I hope you don't get the 2014-2024 experience the west got.
So far, my only experience has been a bunch of conservative Americans telling me that I have to hate something because Jews, otherwise I'm braindead.
LeftPaw Jan 27 @ 9:59pm 
Synthetic Who? I'm not interested in this guy. I want to see Macks vid but he seems to have taken it down. Maybe he was a little to outspoken. :D
gromenawer Jan 27 @ 10:06pm 
+1
Actalo Jan 27 @ 10:07pm 
Originally posted by LeftPaw:
Synthetic Who? I'm not interested in this guy. I want to see Macks vid but he seems to have taken it down. Maybe he was a little to outspoken. :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd_J3zmH34k

And I agree with Worth A Buy's points he makes.
kth Jan 27 @ 10:10pm 
If you follow any "influencer" you deserve the worst modern games can offer :imSorry:
DogMeat Jan 27 @ 10:13pm 
Originally posted by Ellydir:
So far, my only experience has been a bunch of conservative Americans telling me that I have to hate something because Jews, otherwise I'm braindead.
"Conservative"?

Anyway... its literally part of the point of the propaganda... to drive people nuts and turn on each other.

Do you not think Veilguard and the content in it is utterly insane? A AAA game to have content like that game. Ten years ago society as a whole would have LOST its mind over it. Remember the fox news response to the sex scenes of 2007's Mass Effect?

It starts small... then it snowballs over the years. People are angry because they now turned the temperature up... just a bit... in a franchise that rejected that heat and I'm the crazy one.
Dax_B Jan 27 @ 10:15pm 
Oof, that was a hard video to watch. I always thought of Mack as being level headed, maybe the video would have some heated replies to some comments he took objection with. I wasn't expecting a grown man "who's not bothered by the way" to start fake crying and wailing and being as silly and immature as he came across here.

Doesn't help that he's pretending he doesn't have any idea why the retcon of characters has peeved a lot of us off, again it's someone deliberately missing the point of contention and trying to make it out it's just some silly anti-gay smear campaign.

We get it, it'll be hard for someone in his position to ask/answer the difficult questions. He gets all the "access media" perks and make good career money out of it too. He wants his viewers to believe he's still just a gamer like them (although he's not).

It's not someone trying to defend creative choices, it's someone trying to defend their best business interests.
Spiersy Jan 27 @ 10:18pm 
Please, show me more people reacting to reactions of reactions and then also tell me your opinion...

Who asked and or cares? It's sad that this is a big deal to you.
DogMeat Jan 27 @ 10:20pm 
Originally posted by Dax_B:
Oof, that was a hard video to watch. I always thought of Mack as being level headed, maybe the video would have some heated replies to some comments he took objection with. I wasn't expecting a grown man "who's not bothered by the way" to start fake crying and wailing and being as silly and immature as he came across here.

Doesn't help that he's pretending he doesn't have any idea why the retcon of characters has peeved a lot of us off, again it's someone deliberately missing the point of contention and trying to make it out it's just some silly anti-gay smear campaign.

We get it, it'll be hard for someone in his position to ask/answer the difficult questions. He gets all the "access media" perks and make good career money out of it too. He wants his viewers to believe he's still just a gamer like them (although he's not).

It's not someone trying to defend creative choices, it's someone trying to defend their best business interests.
There are a lot of older gamers who dislike wokeness (good for them!) but don't truly understand its origins and points. They've somehow gone through the decades of propaganda and not realized the slippery slope was real and we went down it. Now they look at the little things that were at the top of the slide and don't get why anyone would have a problem with it.

YES... KCD II is a HUGE step back from the woke slop we have had in the last few years. Its also a big step forward in woke appeasement from KCD I which directly contradicts what they previously said. They don't get that. They then point to the very companies who were influential in pushing us down the slope in the first place as examples of what we should return to.
He's a well-known racist, so his opinion is completely invalid 🥱
Good thing his channel is on the verge of extinction.
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