The game is historically accurate

[finn]

Why are the right-wingers coping that it's ruining their realism when it's proven by people with years/decades researching medieval Europe around this time period that same sex relationships occurred along with non-white Europeans and beyond visiting Bohemia's larger areas? Also, how hard is it to just not kiss men during your playthrough?

Anyone else think this is just an excuse for the typical right-wing gamer to be homophobic and racist by hiding behind "muh realism".

[festizio]

Not canonically accurate tho

[finn]

Originally posted by festizio:

Not canonically accurate tho

Says who? Henry could be bi or gay. It's not beyond consideration he might not be straight. But you also can just pick to not kiss boys in the game - that's an actual option.

[Weedlord Bonerhitler]

Historically "plausible" is actually all that the game developers are defending KCD2 as anymore. Accuracy went out the window when Warhorse was acquired by Embracer

[Leylin Archeron]

Everything is valid.

That doesn't mean that everyone should be happy to be or witness gay sex.

It used to be our private life and our business. Until mentally ill people started getting obsessed with sex and people's sexuality, children included.

[Kain]

"Anyone else think this is just an excuse for the typical right-wing gamer to be homophobic and racist by hiding behind "muh realism"."

Yes and no. Some are truly racist and homophobic. Others are trolls.

There are those who are so fed up with forced inclusion of DEI elements into anything that they are very suspicious or ran out of patience. I can understand that stance.

Personally, I believe the devs are legit and thought adding those elements could yield really interesting story telling.

Either way, it's not so simple as "Right wing bad"

[Pikippon]

It is not as the gay character is most likely immortal while if it were historical you could rat on him and he'd be sentenced to... you know... stuff they did to ppl that committed such "sin" back then.

[finn]

Originally posted by Leylin Archeron:

Everything is valid.

That doesn't mean that everyone should be happy to be or witness gay sex.

It used to be our private life and our business. Until mentally ill people started getting obsessed with sex and people's sexuality, children included.

If you don't like it then don't play the game. I have yet to see a gay person complain about all the straight sex in games. Almost like one side is tolerant and the other isn't.

[finn]

Originally posted by Kain:

"Anyone else think this is just an excuse for the typical right-wing gamer to be homophobic and racist by hiding behind "muh realism"."

Yes and no. Some are truly racist and homophobic. Others are trolls.

There are those who are so fed up with forced inclusion of DEI elements into anything that they are very suspicious or ran out of patience. I can understand that stance.

Personally, I believe the devs are legit and thought adding those elements could yield really interesting story telling.

Either way, it's not so simple as "Right wing bad"

It's not about DEI because it's historically accurate in a game that really prided itself on being historically accurate. And it's not like Henry is held at bowpoint and made to kiss as many men as he can.

[Hattori_Denzo]

Originally posted by Leylin Archeron:

Everything is valid.

That doesn't mean that everyone should be happy to be or witness gay sex.

It used to be our private life and our business. Until mentally ill people started getting obsessed with sex and people's sexuality, children included.

Whole thing is to demoralize and brainwash people to nonsense.
This have to stop and whole gay thing in middle ages was so irrelevant that i wonder why devs feel like they have to push this nonsense to this historical game that has canon set in first game.

[Leylin Archeron]

Originally posted by finn:

Originally posted by Leylin Archeron:

Everything is valid.

That doesn't mean that everyone should be happy to be or witness gay sex.

It used to be our private life and our business. Until mentally ill people started getting obsessed with sex and people's sexuality, children included.

If you don't like it then don't play the game. I have yet to see a gay person complain about all the straight sex in games. Almost like one side is tolerant and the other isn't.

The difference that you refuse to understand because of your mental illness is that sex between a man and a woman is life and gives life. So easier and more widely accepted to witness, a beautiful thing, natural wonder... whatever.

Gay sex is pure depravity and nothing else. So more disturbing.

That's why it's always been private and remained private.

Until the mentally ill people start trying to dictate to us their insanity

[HopeSavior]

It’s not about tolerance, it’s about good story telling. Adding something in for the sake of adding it is bad story telling and dishonest to the cultures involved. Accuracy is showing there were consequences at the time for said actions because there were. Whether that be you having to hide it and risk being hunted if caught or choosing to report someone for being homosexual. Being persecuted by the church would be an insane plot point that could build great story elements. If they don’t tap into that, it’s just a waste and seems like an after thought to show they added for the sake of adding it.

[finn]

Originally posted by Pikippon:

It is not as the gay character is most likely immortal while if it were historical you could rat on him and he'd be sentenced to... you know... stuff they did to ppl that committed such "sin" back then.

I really think you overthink how often the first resort was to murder someone for being gay. Also, much like a lot of 'crime', you didn't go around telling people, you kinda kept it between those involved. Thus it does make it much harder to know how big of a scale it was, but considering about 1/5 people in the world now identify outside of hetrosexual I would assume those numbers are similiar. Not like being gay is a modern thing.

[Kain]

Originally posted by finn:

Originally posted by Kain:

"Anyone else think this is just an excuse for the typical right-wing gamer to be homophobic and racist by hiding behind "muh realism"."

Yes and no. Some are truly racist and homophobic. Others are trolls.

There are those who are so fed up with forced inclusion of DEI elements into anything that they are very suspicious or ran out of patience. I can understand that stance.

Personally, I believe the devs are legit and thought adding those elements could yield really interesting story telling.

Either way, it's not so simple as "Right wing bad"

It's not about DEI because it's historically accurate in a game that really prided itself on being historically accurate. And it's not like Henry is held at bowpoint and made to kiss as many men as he can.

Maybe not, I'm inclined to agree with you. But some aren't are trusting and again. I can't blame them given all that happened last few years.

[Weedlord Bonerhitler]

Originally posted by finn:

Originally posted by Kain:

"Anyone else think this is just an excuse for the typical right-wing gamer to be homophobic and racist by hiding behind "muh realism"."

Yes and no. Some are truly racist and homophobic. Others are trolls.

There are those who are so fed up with forced inclusion of DEI elements into anything that they are very suspicious or ran out of patience. I can understand that stance.

Personally, I believe the devs are legit and thought adding those elements could yield really interesting story telling.

Either way, it's not so simple as "Right wing bad"

It's not about DEI because it's historically accurate in a game that really prided itself on being historically accurate. And it's not like Henry is held at bowpoint and made to kiss as many men as he can.

Musa is not historically accurate, but an ahistorical fabrication. The concept of a Malian serving in the court of Hungary in the year 1400 is preposterous. He is only included to lecture the western audience about how much more "advanced" the Islamic slave societies of the middle ages were.

[Lancastrian]

No. That's like saying make a Native American game set in Sioux country, then have a Viking in it, because Vikings 'kind of' met Indians. Just not in that place at that time.
It's undoubtedly forced in KCD2 and we know why, the vast majority of people have had enough now.