The ani-DEI movement is becoming a self-parody...

[Ruin]

As much as I support removing obvious examples of DEI and "woke" content from games, the histrionic, and hysterical, over-the-top reaction to the prospect of gay characters, a black character, and the prospect of Henry having (optional, and player driven) gay romance is literally demonstrating that a huge percentage of the anti-DEI movement are as emotionally fragile, hyper-sensitive snowflakes as the bluehaired TikTok Libs, that everyone loves to mock...

It really is reaching a level where the anti-DEI movement will become a similar self-parody as the radical left, and their meltdowns over insignificant nothings...

People need to unward their panties more than just a bit, and grow up alot...

[Calubob]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Mr D Grim:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Calubob:

I'm essentially a convicted felon in the Avowed boards.

Oh man i'm so not going in there. i would be banned within 15 minutes for sure.

It's a sensitive place

[Cassidy0z]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Mr D Grim:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Calubob:

I'm essentially a convicted felon in the Avowed boards.

Oh man i'm so not going in there. i would be banned within 15 minutes for sure.

Haha don't. I'm with Calubob on this one, I'm considered Public enemy #1. And yet for the extremists here they act as if I'm an agent of DEI, like wtf?

[Deadly Dan]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Haddon:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Devious Dave:

As I said your friend is no centrist as centrism as a concept does not exist. Like you stated he changed his political alignment.
Changing your political alignment from left to right or vice versa doesn't place you in the middle all of a sudden.

No, he changed from far-right to centrist. If you go "left quite a bit" from far-right...guess where you are? He was a NeoLib, he just thought the war-mongering had gotten out of hand and was no longer helping the American people. That is pretty much as centrist as you can get.

As there is no center, you can't become centrist. It's a nice idea in theory but not realizable in our political system.

[Cassidy0z]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Devious Dave:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Haddon:

No, he changed from far-right to centrist. If you go "left quite a bit" from far-right...guess where you are? He was a NeoLib, he just thought the war-mongering had gotten out of hand and was no longer helping the American people. That is pretty much as centrist as you can get.

As there is no center, you can't become centrist. It's a nice idea in theory but not realizable in our political system.

While I hate the idea of this, it's not wrong.

[Haddon]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Devious Dave:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Haddon:

No, he changed from far-right to centrist. If you go "left quite a bit" from far-right...guess where you are? He was a NeoLib, he just thought the war-mongering had gotten out of hand and was no longer helping the American people. That is pretty much as centrist as you can get.

As there is no center, you can't become centrist. It's a nice idea in theory but not realizable in our political system.

You keep saying this.
You are wrong.
Literally every political scientist will disagree with you.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Cassidy0z:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Haddon:

I am not anti-DEI, I am anti-pandering. Representation matters, many studies have shown this..but what matters is the representation is realistic. It needs to represent people of color, queer people, trans people, disabled people as...just people. Because that is what we are. Not as Mary Sues, not as caricatures, not shoved in just to pander.

Pandering is the tool of DEI, as is tokenism, .

Pandering and tokenism are the tools of every political movement.

[Calubob]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Cassidy0z:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Devious Dave:

As there is no center, you can't become centrist. It's a nice idea in theory but not realizable in our political system.

While I hate the idea of this, it's not wrong.

You can absolutely be centrist though. When it's ballot season you are able to vote each branch how you see fit.

*idonwannaarguethough lol

[Cassidy0z]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Calubob:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Cassidy0z:

While I hate the idea of this, it's not wrong.

You can absolutely be centrist though. When it's ballot season you are able to vote each branch how you see fit.

*idonwannaarguethough lol

No I agree with you in that there's technically a choice, but I think the greater point is, do you REALLY have a choice in context to the power of the, what's basically, two party system.

[Deadly Dan]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Haddon:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Devious Dave:

As there is no center, you can't become centrist. It's a nice idea in theory but not realizable in our political system.

You keep saying this.
You are wrong.
Literally every political scientist will disagree with you.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Cassidy0z:

Pandering is the tool of DEI, as is tokenism, .

Pandering and tokenism are the tools of every political movement.

If they claim you can vote centrist in our system, you're trusting the wrong people.

[Armor Doge]

Imagine a world where it's "Radical" to fight subversion and degradation.

"Come on bro..."

Nah, I don't think I will.

[Calubob]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Cassidy0z:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Calubob:

You can absolutely be centrist though. When it's ballot season you are able to vote each branch how you see fit.

*idonwannaarguethough lol

No I agree with you in that there's technically a choice, but I think the greater point is, do you REALLY have a choice in context to the power of the, what's basically, two party system.

That's fair. I really wish we'd start taking other parties seriously.

[Cassidy0z]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Calubob:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Cassidy0z:

No I agree with you in that there's technically a choice, but I think the greater point is, do you REALLY have a choice in context to the power of the, what's basically, two party system.

That's fair. I really wish we'd start taking other parties seriously.

Absolutely agree

[Banelord]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Calubob:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Haddon:

Yup, this is exactly right, and it blows me away. I am nowhere near a centrist, I am way to the left, but I don't agree with everything the left says, thinks, does. A great deal of it is nonsense or naive, and I will gladly call it out. So much so both sides frequently assume I am on the other.

Very true. I've been repeatedly labeled a woke leftie in these forums because I acknowledge medieval homosexuality existed and im cool with it.. I'm definitely right leaning lol.
It's not a good sign though. Refusing to criticize your own political party just leads to the last and next 4 years.

Funny, I’ve yet to see a single right-leaning take from you—just the usual leftist rabble disguised as 'reasonable.'

[Deadly Dan]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Banelord:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Calubob:

Very true. I've been repeatedly labeled a woke leftie in these forums because I acknowledge medieval homosexuality existed and im cool with it.. I'm definitely right leaning lol.
It's not a good sign though. Refusing to criticize your own political party just leads to the last and next 4 years.

Funny, I’ve yet to see a single right-leaning take from you—just the usual leftist rabble disguised as 'reasonable.'

Larpers be larpin'

[Mr D Grim]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Banelord:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Calubob:

Very true. I've been repeatedly labeled a woke leftie in these forums because I acknowledge medieval homosexuality existed and im cool with it.. I'm definitely right leaning lol.
It's not a good sign though. Refusing to criticize your own political party just leads to the last and next 4 years.

Funny, I’ve yet to see a single right-leaning take from you—just the usual leftist rabble disguised as 'reasonable.'

thinking people are wrong about the kneejerk overreactions at this game and therefor defending the game doesn't make that leftist
it's just being a more rational anti woke.

[Banelord]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Mr D Grim:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Banelord:

Funny, I’ve yet to see a single right-leaning take from you—just the usual leftist rabble disguised as 'reasonable.'

thinking people are wrong about the kneejerk overreactions at this game and therefor defending the game doesn't make that leftist
it's just being a more rational anti woke.

Yet I’d really love to see him say something truly anti-woke. All I’ve seen is the claim of being a Trump voter—which, let’s be real, isn’t a get-out-of-leftie-free card. Appeasement never works. Just ask Neville Chamberlain how well that 'reasonable' approach turned out.