Letter of demands

[Jean-Marie Dedecker]

We the people, the players, the fans, who have supported and stuck with Warhorse Studios during the past decade, from the KC:D1 kickstarter, during the failed launch, through all the industry/media/online attacks, have been treated in a manner which has been deemed wanting. We demand rectification of this situation via a number of confessions, concessions and penance listed below:

Confessions:
-Admission that certain elements have been added to the game in order to pander to a certain audience.
-Admission that the intention was to hide these elements from the wider audience.
-Full transparancy on the decision making process behind the implementation of these elements.
-Full transparancy on any other such elements as of yet unknown to the wider audience.
-Admission that the treatment of the rightfully concerned playerbase has been unacceptable.
-Admission that the (now removed) Code of Conduct was written in direct opposition to the freedom of expression, which is the most fundamental of human rights.


Concessions:
Upon starting up the game, the player will given the option to play the game in either of the following 2 modes:

-Normal mode (to be named as such)
Any character with a previously established sexual preference, shall retain said preference.
The character 'Musa of Mali' shall be replaced with a Turkic/Mongolian/Chinese siege engineer named 'Temujin'.
Other characters of Sub-Saharan origin shall be replaced with North-African, Arab, Persian or Turkic characters.

-DEI mode (to be named as such)
The game remains unchanged


Penance:
-Formal apology by the Warhorse team.
-The now removed Code of Conduct is to be reuploaded to this forum for archiving.
-Daniel Varva is to shave his beard and get a Ubisoft tattoo.

Untill these demands are met, we shall cease our support for Warhorse Studios and refuse to purchase the new game KC:D2 and all of it's DLC's.

[TapewormJim (TJ)]

By god the evil from the mods on this forum.

They've been stealth deleting my posts. Including, conviently, the one that called out their mod for attacking customers on another thread. And deleted my post here on this thread, which broke no rules, yet only endorsed the 'two modes' idea suggested by the OP.

And let the guy's antagonists spew vicious insults, in direct violation of the rules outlined in their new forum guidelines.

Dirty, dirty, dirty fighting.

Well now I at least know who I'm dealing with.

Listen to me, my foolish friend - you cannot delete people who break no rules, just because they make your company look grimy and heavy-handed. Because that's what you are isn't it, with your slimy little tricks.

I'll just create a backup of my posts from now on. You stealth-delete them - I'll know, then restore. Continue the dirty behaviour, and I'll contact Steam support. Get even more underhanded - and I'm sure you will - and I've been down that road before with Veilguard and co. You'll just be exposed elsewhere on the platform.

No one is on the side of a community mod who abuses their powers.

Luckily I've good memory and will be back again tomorrow to restore the text I wrote here that you maliciously deleted.

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TLDR: I have every right to express support for the idea articulated in the OP's post. Just because you're uncomfortable with being 'called out' as a villain and con-artist doesn't mean you can just sweep that under the carpet.

[Dagoth Ur]

Originally posted by Jean-Marie Dedecker:

We the people, the players, the fans, who have supported and stuck with Warhorse Studios during the past decade, from the KC:D1 kickstarter, during the failed launch, through all the industry/media/online attacks, have been treated in a manner which has been deemed wanting. We demand rectification of this situation via a number of confessions, concessions and penance listed below:

Confessions:
-Admission that certain elements have been added to the game in order to pander to a certain audience.
-Admission that the intention was to hide these elements from the wider audience.
-Full transparancy on the decision making process behind the implementation of these elements.
-Full transparancy on any other such elements as of yet unknown to the wider audience.
-Admission that the treatment of the rightfully concerned playerbase has been unacceptable.
-Admission that the (now removed) Code of Conduct was written in direct opposition to the freedom of expression, which is the most fundamental of human rights.


Concessions:
Upon starting up the game, the player will given the option to play the game in either of the following 2 modes:

-Normal mode (to be named as such)
Any character with a previously established sexual preference, shall retain said preference.
The character 'Musa of Mali' shall be replaced with a Turkic/Mongolian/Chinese siege engineer named 'Temujin'.
Other characters of Sub-Saharan origin shall be replaced with North-African, Arab, Persian or Turkic characters.

-DEI mode (to be named as such)
The game remains unchanged


Penance:
-Formal apology by the Warhorse team.
-The now removed Code of Conduct is to be reuploaded to this forum for archiving.
-Daniel Varva is to shave his beard and get a Ubisoft tattoo.

Untill these demands are met, we shall cease our support for Warhorse Studios and refuse to purchase the new game KC:D2 and all of it's DLC's.

please touch grass

[Jean-Marie Dedecker]

Originally posted by Demifriend:

please touch grass

You didn't even play KC:D1.
Go away, there are plenty of dei games out there for you already.

[SpartanFury1066]

Warhorse aren't going to change the game because of a handful of insecure fake fans who can't play a game because of a simple tiny non forced side quest choice. 99.9% of you won't even see the option to kiss a bloke, your crying over something invisible to most of you. Its sad that your entire basis of how good a game is comes down to this one tiny factor. RPG games have been doing this for a long time.... nothing new here. KCD2 will be a success without the fake fans and haters regardless.
The fact your all so worked up over this is insane. We all know once your 5mins of attention is gone your going to buy and play the game anyway. Why let this ruin your day?. 1 lore backed coloured guy and yal start burning crosses!. Learn about the Holy Roman Empire and you will see 1 black guy in the game isn't a civil rights movement at the expense of gameplay. And as for a side quest of gayness... just choose to be a straight character and you will see no gayness. Its really simple... your upset over something you aren't going to see. That's pure Autism guys. 🤣 Lifes too short, just chill out and enjoy the game, it will be great.

[Tyrolean Ritter]

Originally posted by SpartanFury1066:

Warhorse aren't going to change the game because of a handful of insecure fake fans who can't play a game because of a simple tiny non forced side quest choice. 99.9% of you won't even see the option to kiss a bloke, your crying over something invisible to most of you. Its sad that your entire basis of how good a game is comes down to this one tiny factor. RPG games have been doing this for a long time.... nothing new here. KCD2 will be a success without the fake fans and haters regardless.
The fact your all so worked up over this is insane. We all know once your 5mins of attention is gone your going to buy and play the game anyway. Why let this ruin your day?. 1 lore backed coloured guy and yal start burning crosses!. Learn about the Holy Roman Empire and you will see 1 black guy in the game isn't a civil rights movement at the expense of gameplay. And as for a side quest of gayness... just choose to be a straight character and you will see no gayness. Its really simple... your upset over something you aren't going to see. That's pure Autism guys. 🤣 Lifes too short, just chill out and enjoy the game, it will be great.

- Owned games 0
- No mouse next to your name for KCD2 purchase

ok buddy.

[Chabad Lubavitch]

Originally posted by SpartanFury1066:

Warhorse aren't going to change the game because of a handful of insecure fake fans who can't play a game because of a simple tiny non forced side quest choice. 99.9% of you won't even see the option to kiss a bloke, your crying over something invisible to most of you. Its sad that your entire basis of how good a game is comes down to this one tiny factor. RPG games have been doing this for a long time.... nothing new here. KCD2 will be a success without the fake fans and haters regardless.
The fact your all so worked up over this is insane. We all know once your 5mins of attention is gone your going to buy and play the game anyway. Why let this ruin your day?. 1 lore backed coloured guy and yal start burning crosses!. Learn about the Holy Roman Empire and you will see 1 black guy in the game isn't a civil rights movement at the expense of gameplay. And as for a side quest of gayness... just choose to be a straight character and you will see no gayness. Its really simple... your upset over something you aren't going to see. That's pure Autism guys. 🤣 Lifes too short, just chill out and enjoy the game, it will be great.

What a normie, all of the suffering we see from communism and the hate that comes from it is only viable because people like you exist, purely and utterly brain dead, completely unaware of reality. WH will crash and burn like all of the other companies that are going under because we boycott them and I can't wait to see them get what they deserve. #Popcorn

[Dagoth Ur]

Originally posted by Chabad Lubavitch:

Originally posted by SpartanFury1066:

Warhorse aren't going to change the game because of a handful of insecure fake fans who can't play a game because of a simple tiny non forced side quest choice. 99.9% of you won't even see the option to kiss a bloke, your crying over something invisible to most of you. Its sad that your entire basis of how good a game is comes down to this one tiny factor. RPG games have been doing this for a long time.... nothing new here. KCD2 will be a success without the fake fans and haters regardless.
The fact your all so worked up over this is insane. We all know once your 5mins of attention is gone your going to buy and play the game anyway. Why let this ruin your day?. 1 lore backed coloured guy and yal start burning crosses!. Learn about the Holy Roman Empire and you will see 1 black guy in the game isn't a civil rights movement at the expense of gameplay. And as for a side quest of gayness... just choose to be a straight character and you will see no gayness. Its really simple... your upset over something you aren't going to see. That's pure Autism guys. 🤣 Lifes too short, just chill out and enjoy the game, it will be great.

What a normie, all of the suffering we see from communism and the hate that comes from it is only viable because people like you exist, purely and utterly brain dead, completely unaware of reality. WH will crash and burn like all of the other companies that are going under because we boycott them and I can't wait to see them get what they deserve. #Popcorn

unironically using the term normie

[Dagoth Ur]

Originally posted by Jean-Marie Dedecker:

Originally posted by Demifriend:

please touch grass

You didn't even play KC:D1.
Go away, there are plenty of dei games out there for you already.

once again asking people if the concept of owning games on other platforms does not exist to them

[TapewormJim (TJ)]

I’ve wracked my brain as to why my post here was deleted without warning. And have concluded it was some reference to the ‘special people’. So I’ll keep this one even more clinical.

2025 has started out as the Year of the Guillotine for the gaming industry. There’s no ‘edginess’ here. The only edge was in the blade that severed Bioware’s head at the last EA meeting, along with the career of its art director.

The faceless suits who enforce this activism on entertainment do not even care about the activism. They care about the power trip. The power over artists, to control the art, for a price.

Don Corleone had all the judges and politicians in his pocket, ‘like so many nickels and dimes’. The ESG suits think they control all the artists and journalists in the industry.

‘Repeat ‘back to form’ in all reviews of Veilguard. You will hail it as a masterpiece and the scores must all be in the 7-10 range. Bonus cash for each extra point. Gamers are so stupid, they’ll lap it up and we’ll all be rich’.

The bribery didn’t work out, did it?

I predict at least a 10% drop in overall sales due to the ESG contrivances. But this studio deserves Bioware’s fate for even one contrivance. If you take the money once, you’ll take it again. It’s a slippery slope and new houses and cars are a lot more appealing than artistic merit.

Yet people clearly buy this game for the writing.

An artist who takes money to politicise their art, even for one scene, is not an artist - it is a puppet. Vavra, clearly, is as two-faced as it gets: initially giving such people the middle-finger and now suddenly ‘all-in’ on the woke.

The OP’s suggestion of two game modes is sane and fair for both the woke crowd and the anti-woke crowd. I’ve made the same suggestion as far back as BG3, where the ‘everyone’s bi’ mechanism for the companions utterly undid any narrative integrity their characters might have had.

It’s a nonsense for those so sex-obsessed that they can’t engage with a story outside of wanting to bang the non-existent fictional character. To me it’s a perversion, whether from one side or the other. But the kind of writers who endorse it are not writers at all - care nothing for the craft, are hacks, talentless, spineless and only in it for the cash, however it might arrive.

Two game modes. One dedicated to activism and fantasy wish-fulfillment for the small audience who clamours for it. The other that is free of it.

While you say ‘no’ now, as do your investor overlords, you will soon have to say ‘yes’, because unfortunately you will not see customer money if you don’t ‘compromise’. And that’s what your investors really want.

Think of your future. How bleak it looks now.

The Japanese and Chinese game markets, as well as ‘free indies’, will soon wipe you out if you don’t change track.

[Dagoth Ur]

Originally posted by TapewormJim (TJ):

I’ve wracked my brain as to why my post here was deleted without warning. And have concluded it was some reference to the ‘special people’. So I’ll keep this one even more clinical.

2025 has started out as the Year of the Guillotine for the gaming industry. There’s no ‘edginess’ here. The only edge was in the blade that severed Bioware’s head at the last EA meeting, along with the career of its art director.

The faceless suits who enforce this activism on entertainment do not even care about the activism. They care about the power trip. The power over artists, to control the art, for a price.

Don Corleone had all the judges and politicians in his pocket, ‘like so many nickels and dimes’. The ESG suits think they control all the artists and journalists in the industry.
‘Repeat ‘back to form’ in all reviews of Vielguard. You will hail it as a masterpiece and the scores must all be in the 7-10 range. Bonus cash for each extra point. Gamers are so stupid, they’ll lap it up and we’ll all be rich’.

The bribery didn’t work out, did it?

I predict at least a 10% drop in overall sales due to the ESG contrivances. But this studio deserves Bioware’s fate for even one contrivance. If you take the money once, you’ll take it again. It’s a slippery slope and new houses and cars are a lot more appealing than artistic credibility.

Yet people clearly buy this game for the writing.

An artist who takes money to politicise their art, even for one scene, is not an artist - it is a puppet. Vavra, clearly, is as two-faced as it gets: initially giving such people the middle-finger and now suddenly ‘all-in’ on the woke.

The OP’s suggestion of two game modes is sane and fair for both the woke crowd and the anti-woke crowd. I’ve made the same suggestion as far back as BG3, where the ‘everyone’s bi’ mechanism for the companions utterly undid any narrative integrity their characters might have had.

It’s a nonsense for those so sex-obssessed that they can’t engage with a story outside of wanting to bang the non-existent fictional character. To me it’s a pervasion, whether from one side or the other. But the kind of writers who endorse it are not writers at all - care nothing for the craft, are hacks, talentless, spineless and only in it for the cash, however it might arrive.

Two game modes. One dedicated to activism and fantasy wish-fullfillment for the small audience who clamours for it. The other that is free of it.

While you say ‘no’ now, as do your investor overlords, you will soon have to say ‘yes’, because unfortunately you will not see customer money if you don’t ‘compromise’. And that’s what your investors really want.

Think of your future. How bleak it looks now.

The Japanese and Chinese game markets, as well as ‘free indies’, will soon wipe you out if you don’t change track.

calm down little brother its not that deep

[FluffyPotato]

Originally posted by TapewormJim (TJ):

I’ve wracked my brain as to why my post here was deleted without warning. And have concluded it was some reference to the ‘special people’. So I’ll keep this one even more clinical.

2025 has started out as the Year of the Guillotine for the gaming industry. There’s no ‘edginess’ here. The only edge was in the blade that severed Bioware’s head at the last EA meeting, along with the career of its art director.

The faceless suits who enforce this activism on entertainment do not even care about the activism. They care about the power trip. The power over artists, to control the art, for a price.

Don Corleone had all the judges and politicians in his pocket, ‘like so many nickels and dimes’. The ESG suits think they control all the artists and journalists in the industry.

‘Repeat ‘back to form’ in all reviews of Vielguard. You will hail it as a masterpiece and the scores must all be in the 7-10 range. Bonus cash for each extra point. Gamers are so stupid, they’ll lap it up and we’ll all be rich’.

The bribery didn’t work out, did it?

I predict at least a 10% drop in overall sales due to the ESG contrivances. But this studio deserves Bioware’s fate for even one contrivance. If you take the money once, you’ll take it again. It’s a slippery slope and new houses and cars are a lot more appealing than artistic merit.

Yet people clearly buy this game for the writing.

An artist who takes money to politicise their art, even for one scene, is not an artist - it is a puppet. Vavra, clearly, is as two-faced as it gets: initially giving such people the middle-finger and now suddenly ‘all-in’ on the woke.

The OP’s suggestion of two game modes is sane and fair for both the woke crowd and the anti-woke crowd. I’ve made the same suggestion as far back as BG3, where the ‘everyone’s bi’ mechanism for the companions utterly undid any narrative integrity their characters might have had.

It’s a nonsense for those so sex-obssessed that they can’t engage with a story outside of wanting to bang the non-existent fictional character. To me it’s a pervasion, whether from one side or the other. But the kind of writers who endorse it are not writers at all - care nothing for the craft, are hacks, talentless, spineless and only in it for the cash, however it might arrive.

Two game modes. One dedicated to activism and fantasy wish-fullfillment for the small audience who clamours for it. The other that is free of it.

While you say ‘no’ now, as do your investor overlords, you will soon have to say ‘yes’, because unfortunately you will not see customer money if you don’t ‘compromise’. And that’s what your investors really want.

Think of your future. How bleak it looks now.

The Japanese and Chinese game markets, as well as ‘free indies’, will soon wipe you out if you don’t change track.

This is what happens when you forget what grass even is

[TapewormJim (TJ)]

Originally posted by Demifriend:

calm down little brother its not that deep

Do they all just parrot 'it's not that deep' when they read 'dah big words' that they can't counter?

You people need a new soundbite little dude.

Because unfortunately it was indeed 'that deep' for EA, unless you missed the press release .

I tell you what - you should contact them and tell them the press release 'isn't that deep'. They were overthinking all those failures.

Come back to me and let me know how that one goes mate.

[Dagoth Ur]

Originally posted by TapewormJim (TJ):

Originally posted by Demifriend:

calm down little brother its not that deep

Do they all just parrot 'it's not that deep' when they read 'dah big words' that they can't counter?

You people need a new soundbite little dude.

Because unfortunately it was indeed 'that deep' for EA, unless you missed the press release .

I tell you what - you should contact them and tell them the press release 'isn't that deep'. They were overthinking all those failures.

Come back to me and let me know how that one goes mate.

it's not that deep little brother, calm down.

[TapewormJim (TJ)]

Originally posted by FluffyPotato:

This is what happens when you forget what grass even is

This is what happens you forget how to think critically - one-liner soundbites from the book of 'too much internet' cliches: 'touch grass', 'it's not that deep'.

Either invent something new or actually engage with the material for a change.

It's sticks and stones to me and I'll just keep using my brain. It's taken me very far in life, cheers.

[TapewormJim (TJ)]

Originally posted by Demifriend:

it's not that deep little brother, calm down.

They do all the work for you. I love it lmao.